Thank you for that. Going to get something right away. My wife has been on vacation and I've let her know she is quitting for good when she gets back next week. She has tried to quit and I've just her try her way but it ain't working. Tough love time.

I've heard about vaping and how it helps some people quit, so we're gonna give it a try.

BTW I smoked for many years, now I can't stand it. Whatever it takes, I'm game.

My sister's kid never smoked, yet has one of these things around her neck now. It looks like a tampon. Ridiculous.

VB, You must be getting some sort of kickback out of these things.

My recommendation is to wake up one day and stop, period.

Exercise. Keep yourself busy. Don't drink alcohol. Stay away from others smoking.

Nicotine is largely gone from the blood in days. Much beyond that it's a mental issue in some ways like the baby pacifier. She can do it if she wants to. Determination is the key.

Some don't want to quit. We're only on Earth a short while. Do what you want. That said, being dependent on sticking a battery in your face and sucking on it for nicotine to be able to cope with life seems pretty ridiculous.

I applaud your efforts, but be careful. Most of us used the words, "...for better or worse..." in our marriage vows. This will definitely be one of the "worse" times. You can press, but you can't force anyone off an addiction if you really want it to stick. They have to make the decision for themselves or they will always go back.

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Very well put.

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Nope, not a cent.
If folks wish to give in to mob mentally and pile on, go for it.
I'll stick to my guns on the issue for every unfortunate soul who wishes to quit smoking and can't.
The kiddies who vape for show ... I will bet you that they annoy me far more than they do you.
They chose vape over fresh air. For what ever reason I never did figure out and I bailed out of that shop before I gave in to the temptation to bludgeon any of them with a stacked 26650 in the case.

had the customer base been made of more like the grandma preaching the praises of how it isn't as painful to walk ...... perhaps I could have stood the place. That's who it's for.

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I smoked off and over the years and quit for good in my early 40's. My son has been a smoker since he was around sixteen, it used to absolutely amaze me to watch him inhale, I swear he could finish an entire cigarette in about five or six pulls. He still smokes at 35 and occaisonally plays around with the E-Cigarette, has a buddy that builds an industrial type model with high voltage batteries. He still inhales a tremendous amount of steam and lets out this huge cloud on exhale...I don't care what anyone says that can't be healthy. I'm quite certain I will outlive him with a 29 year head start.

If you've never smoked before, you don't what it's like trying to quit.

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I've never smoked and you're right, I don't have personal knowledge. However, I have watched people struggle with addictions of many sorts. Smoking is by far the largest group of true addicts I know.

I tried to help a guy once, never again. I will encourage, cajole and promise my support, but I will never help by trying to limit access again. People become violent when they don't get the object of their addiction.

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Yup.
they get plenty ornery when you suggest replacing the switch (cigarette) with a volume knob (vape) and leave it at their discretion to turn it down as they see fit.

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For better or worse, you've got that right. We've discussed it and she really does want to quit. I really want her to quit, only because it darn near killed me and I don't want to watch her go through the same. She has tried many times, even made it a few weeks once.

Quitting can be torturous (for both of us) and I feel one of these fake cig things could help her get past the craves. There is more to it than the nicotine addiction. Hard to explain. Quitting is harder for some than others.

A friend of mine recently quit by "vaping instead". She said it helped. I would ask her to show me more about this stuff but she lives in Arizona and we are in Oregon. I admit, had to look it up on youtube before I knew what the heck all this was about.

Thing about smoking is there's no high. All there is is the addiction. Oh, sure a little "ease and comfort" but the doggone cough in the morning and the drawn out chest colds, the cost and the hassle of dealing with the filters instead of throwing 'em on the ground....just not worth it logically.
But it's an obsessive compulsive behavior. Quit for a year, pick one up and BOOM, you're a pack a day man.
The medical damage to the bod is, for whatever reason, easily ignored by the addict. Believe me, I'm speakin' experience here.
But you can become a guy that doesn't t smoke, or vape, or collect S&Ws, but you gotta want to quit and be willing to follow through, every day.

(just one man's opinion)

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Then there is the enchanted forest of gear ...
my god have they been industrious.
I like my core rig but I still look around for some of the more artisanal offerings to collect.
You want one to shake your head at for its novelty, YouTube search for the nuke rda.

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Much here in is why I support vape.
If life sees fit to dump a ton of bricks upon you, that is the time you will try "just one" on your way to a pack a day.
we don't choose the concrete lottery, it chooses you.
we can argue about ones response to this being a choice, but that argument is nearly irrelevant to the fact that an individual is smoking.

where the discussion is fresh air versus vape ... it's risky.
where its vape versus smoking, we have a totally different discussion.

This thread has certainly kept me busy pulling heads above water. I can't drag them completely out of the river. but I can give them something to grab onto while they gain the strength to start pulling themselves.

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Bold print indeed. It's not smoke. It's water vapor. Steam.

fooled with the electronic cigs a few years ago and did get off of the marlboros for awhile,but the "stuff" became very harsh on my throat.My lungs were thrilled,though

yes .. fully aware of that phenomena.
the harsh is the nicotine itself.
make a reduction in the concentration of nicotine and the harshness goes away for a while till its time to make another reduction.
This drove me from 18mg down to 6mg in about two months.
todays batch .... 1.6mg
I might just be dangling my toes in the river I was swept adrift in 9 months ago.

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Don't see the point in it . . .

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He also omits the reasons for that procedure.
if you have smoke in a cockpit, you also have a pretty fair chance of a depressurization.
if that happens above 10000 feet .. lights out it's nap time.
I have flown. I don't think its an activity I could accomplish while passed out.

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Another dumb question: How do you control the dose of nicotine?

via the fluid.
it can be had at 3, 6, 9, 12, 18, 24, and 36 mg
it is also available in non nicotine as well.
12mg more or less equates the mean average of a cigarette.
you can also mix two levels to hit figures in between.

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She hasn't had a cigarette in over a week. I've learned over the years just to leave her alone and so far it seems to be working out.

It's my understanding that when a person smokes for the first time they typically cough and gag, get light headed and their mouth tastes like and ashtray. I can understand folks getting addicted chasing such an awesome first experience.

You accurately described my first experience with smoking. Back then, there were no warnings about causing cancer and such. It just looked cool and everybody did it. I think I may have been one of the smart ones though. The choking, coughing and ashtray taste put me off immediately. I just couldn't imagine what was to like about it. Never smoked since.

Muahahaha .. another has been assimilated.
Now that she's getting settled in, lets get some resources together to help her get both hands firmly on the throttle.

One free software app to have is called ejuice me up.
its a program to help work out mixing your own juice to whatever strength, ratio and flavor she could ever want.
It's the best Ive seen for this.

Next is Wizard Labs

Mixing your own drops the price to about $3 a 30ml bottle and gives access to flavors she normally wouldn't find
12% TFA dragonfruit and 6% TFA honeydew is an exquisite mix.
She can also use these flavorings in homemade hard candy.

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[quote=IAM Rand;138693966]Once upon a time I was a chimney. I moved to a pipe with sweet tobacco. When I went back to a cig it tasted like the south end of a cat, not that I know what that is like, just saying. I also started exercising. My wife was curious about the ecig. Started with nicotine and within several weeks she was on the non nicotine cigs then just stopped all together.


They have cooked something up to offend everyone.
This might be your speed.

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Uh....what?

REALLY LIKE!!

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When it comes to quitting I'm worse than a alcoholic heroin addict, and yes, all you have to do is get up in morning and quit,
I've done it hundreds of times..... E-Cig ! I use one and they help.
I use the V-2 with the refillable cartridges,

oh ... you again.

let me recap your first statements in the interest of keeping context intact.
this makes perfect sense to me in an enclosed cockpit where smoke will not dissipate.
Vape is not smoke, its steam.
Steam, like a sauna or that wafting essence rising from your morning coffee .... got it?

it has nothing to do with a radio stack going through silicon to carbon conversion, or the results of any pressurized fluids spewing from a ruptured line into the housing of a scalding hot General Electric turbofan to cause drama at altitude.

Vape is the lifeboat for those who wish to quit smoking and have failed.
Some European medical studies on vape estimate a 95% risk reduction over smoking.
Vape puts full control of nicotine concentrations into the hands of the user providing a means to reduce it at a painless rate.
Vape wins over smoking through preference. This means if there will be a future relapse, they will go to vape rather than light up.
Nicotine aside, everyone here probably uses every other component of vape juice in some way shape or form, every day.

I will continue to be its advocate against all opposition simply because doing so stands to save more people from the ravages of lung cancer, emphysema, and other smoking related afflictions than it's opposition will ever manage.

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No argument on less risk than cigs.

On the other hand, there has been a downtrend of smoking for decades. The introduction of e-cigs seems like a vehicle to get more of the next generation hooked on nicotine.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other. If someone wants to stick a battery in their mouth and suck on it more power to em. But if we're going to take a more global do-gooder view, I don't believe that e-cigs are necessarily the pathway to all things good.

this does get into a huge pile of argument and counter argument and layers of more counter argument of the counter arguments.
I can tell you my observations from my little pocket of the world which may or may not reflect observations that could be made in yours.

in there here and now, it has a "cool and trendy" appeal among the young and dumb hipster type.
Im not entirely sure what they are vaping but most shop owners around here will tell you that nicotine free juice is the biggest seller. They might just be in it for the image and flavor.
theyd do better with candy in my opinion.

I still see far more conventional cig smoking in that general age group than vape for now.

what it's done for me ... I have this here candy dish full of homemade hard candy that Im snackin on.
Uses the same flavorings I used in my vape juice.
didn't want to give up the flavors and I didn't see why I'd have to.

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Just read Willem Nelsons biography.He says his lungs are to old to smoke joints.So now he uses a vaporizer to smoke marihuana oil.And it so disguises the odor that he uses it on airplanes.I do not believe everybody I see with one of those around their neck is quitting smoking

You are correct that the heads have found ways to abuse the gear.
Old Willie might have an impaired sense of smell. It doesn't mask the funk quite as effectively as he thinks

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So does this mean you are nicotine free vaping???

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It means vape ended up being a gateway to homemade candy in my case.
I'm free and clear without ever jeopardizing the domestic tranquility or harming small animals.

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Smoking is good for you. The entire "smoking is bad" thing is a conspiracy. The government came out with the whole thing shortly after Eisenhower made that deal with the grey aliens.

Circa 1957 smoking was said to be not only harmless but beneficial. Then all of a sudden in the 1960s it is "harmful". Coincidence? I think not.

Humans who smoke are much less likely to be abducted by aliens, and almost never eaten by them. It ruins the taste and also disrupts the alien mind control. If someone wants to quit, so be it, but don't be complaining when you end up in a vat of hydrogen peroxide being dissolved into mush for alien chow.

Vaping...fire safe cigs....just won't do. It takes real tabaccy to do the job and no filters either. Solemn nod.

No way jose. My relaxation is Greygoose on the rocks! Haha
Or some Beer!

We's seen a lot of vapor smokes coming thru TSA. It's becoming huge.

now that Ive gotten myself to a full keyboard, Ill give you a better answer.

In all honesty I suppose you could say Im nic free vaping ... that is, if and when I vape.
I might today ... I might not. It doesn't really matter in terms of relapse at this point. It's just that I have quite a bit of juice left over from the last batch.

I love the flavors,and I've cooked up several to give endearing names to.
Dragons crack, Unicorn puke, Caribbean blitz, L7, LM1, and the general store....
Come to find out after a little experimentation, most render well as hard candy. Some even render better as hard candy. Thank God for that.
After trying nicotine free for a day I made up a larger batch and somewhere in there the realization sunk in that these wonderful flavors would ultimately go when the mod is retired.

find a hard candy recipe and the flavoring will be two parts dragonfruit, one part honeydew ... both flavorings are the flavor apprentice brand.
From this, you will likely discover three things.
1) why vape has the power of preference
2) why I call it dragons crack
3) why I want to keep it

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