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Why Americans Love Guns, in One Photo
Breaking the bonds of economic enslavement in the industrial German Ruhr for the wilds of an Illinois homestead, in-law Philip Schoenholz was so happy he included his new bird gun and hunting pouch in this ca1865 portrait. Because unless you were a Forstmeister, only aristocrats owned guns and hunted game in Germany, and from his matted hair and the facial expression of his other love, Elizabetha, he had to be dragged in from the fields by his adult sons for the portrait. 
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Awesome. It's all about American freedom and our choices on how we choose to live our lives. 1865
I was born 250 years too late. We missed the good times.
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Why Americans Love Guns, in One Photo
To shoot the zombies in the photo?
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I don't think the gun/hunting situation in Germany has changed much from back then.
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I was born 250 years too late. We missed the good times.
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Let's see....no antibiotics, so a splinter could potentially kill.
No water treatment plants, so diarrhea was rampant due to water-borne bugs.
No deodorant and infrequent bathing, so everyone smelled like a European waiter.
Most streets weren't paved, so mud was a constant. No toilet paper, so I hope you like corncobs.
Sounds like paradise. 
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^^^ That needed to be said. I'm glad i live now, but it is very sad to see the way our country is circling the drain.
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Let's see....no antibiotics, so a splinter could potentially kill.
No water treatment plants, so diarrhea was rampant due to water-borne bugs.
No deodorant and infrequent bathing, so everyone smelled like a European waiter.
Most streets weren't paved, so mud was a constant. No toilet paper, so I hope you like corncobs.
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I think I was born about 20-30 years too late. I'd have loved to live in the 40's and 50's like my dad. In many ways I still feel the 50's were the pinnacle of traditional America. Not in all ways of course, but in many ways.
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy". 
Perhaps it was the hard life they lived that made them that way.
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy".
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Just our culture is guess.
Back in the day you needed one to survive.
Read an article today that since June of this year
over 4.8 Million NCIC's were conducted for new
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy".
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Uh, did you take a close look at the dude in that pic?
Just blow out the candles and get busy.
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The presence of guns in so many 19th & early 20th century portraits speaks to their significance in American life.
For a lot of people, a quality firearm was their most prized possession, and they were displayed with pride in pictures. Kinda like men & their muscle cars.
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy".
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The unmarried ones looked happy.
They had really slow film. You had to stay absolutely still-you aged while the lens was open. Pictures were formal and expensive. Dental care was not a good thing, so mouths hurt, and teeth were missing. The men looked pretty stiff also. These may have been the best of the worst.
Prostitute Portraits From The Dark Side Of 1900's New Orleans | So Bad So Good
Warning: these photos are not really risqué
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy".
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...I don't know about that...I think my wife's great aunt Lizzie born back in the 1880's wasn't too bad looking...considering no make up or anything...
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Aunt Lizzie is a babe.
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Rare pic of a beauty from that time, all the old pics I've seen are NOT attractive.
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Beautiful woman.
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Why we love guns? Just look at the cover of any issue of Dillon's Blue Press for the answer!
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The picture was circa 1865, around the end of the War, and he isn't smiling.
One of the requirements of military service was at least one set of matching teeth, one on top and one on bottom.......to tear open a paper cartridge.
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Let's see....no antibiotics, so a splinter could potentially kill.
No water treatment plants, so diarrhea was rampant due to water-borne bugs.
No deodorant and infrequent bathing, so everyone smelled like a European waiter.
Most streets weren't paved, so mud was a constant. No toilet paper, so I hope you like corncobs.
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you forgot rotten and missing teeth 
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...I don't know about that...I think my wife's great aunt Lizzie born back in the 1880's wasn't too bad looking...considering no make up or anything...
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Wowsers! My guess is Lizzie turned a few heads! Something tells me the guy in the first picture would have smiled a bit if she were sitting next to him. Just a guess.
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Good looking girls of today had to come from somewhere. 
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy".
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Oh, I am pretty sure they didn't all look like her...who thinks the guy in the photo knows how to skin a squirrel?????
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Awesome. It's all about American freedom and our choices on how we choose to live our lives. 1865
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Yep, like using an outhouse at 0530 would have been the highlight of my day.
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Hey that's why we invented flashlights. Candles could cause explosions depending on what you had for supper.
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In ye olden days, women married at a relatively young age. It was the effects of having many children and rough living that caused an appearance of being haggard.
Make up has existed since the days of the pyramids. The use of it goes in and out of favor.
Women on the frontier were often a mean lot. Read about the mother of Frank and Jesse James for an example.
In ye old olden days Roman writers claimed that even the fierce Germanic warriors of the dark woods would quake in fear from an angry German woman. Much the same was long said of the Irish.
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...I've used an outhouse at minus 27 degrees Fahrenheit...you go REAL fast...or you leave things behind you didn't intend too...
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Not to mention the only treatment for bad ones was to pull em.
Root canals don't seem so bad anymore.
STDs were rampant and the state of the art treatment was mercury.
If you think the women were unattractive, go spend years the wilderness surrounded by nothing but cattle and other ugly, smelly, vermin-infested guys. Then travel weeks to nearest town where men outnumber women at least six to one and see how picky you are 
I suspect the lack of attraction was mutual.
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Postmortem photography was a big thing in the era too .... I'm thinking the guy might be be a stiff.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head.
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Weekend at Schoenholz's
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He didn't get that way from his wife, by the looks of her.
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Not that kind of stiff dude
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^^^ That needed to be said. I'm glad i live now, but it is very sad to see the way our country is circling the drain.
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Not to denigrate the women folk of yore, but it's a wonder that procreation took place back then, as the women were not what you would call "pleasing to the eye and sexy".
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And you think he's hot stuff? Looks like a pretty good match from where I am sitting.
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