Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > The Lounge

Notices

The Lounge A Catch-All Area for NON-GUN topics.
PUT GUN TOPICS in the GUN FORUMS.
Keep it Family Friendly. See The Rules for Banned Topics!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-29-2016, 06:40 AM
7shooter 7shooter is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: In the Cloud
Posts: 1,736
Likes: 2,252
Liked 1,872 Times in 582 Posts
Default Snap Caps

I dry fire one of my S&W revolvers every day usually a Model 10 or 64. Upon the advice of a friend who is a retired S&W employee I always use snap caps.

The question I have is this really necessary ? Is there any real
evidence that dry firing without snap caps is more harmful than with them.
__________________
I like Ike.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-29-2016, 07:40 AM
bigwheelzip's Avatar
bigwheelzip bigwheelzip is offline
Absent Comrade
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 12,990
Likes: 17,229
Liked 41,504 Times in 9,146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 7shooter View Post
Is there any real evidence that dry firing without snap caps is more harmful than with them.
Someone here said they knocked out the firing pin bushing when dry firing without them.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-29-2016, 07:41 AM
Arik Arik is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Outside Philadelphia Pa
Posts: 16,601
Likes: 7,342
Liked 17,200 Times in 7,303 Posts
Default

I never have

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-29-2016, 07:48 AM
old bear's Avatar
old bear old bear is offline
US Veteran
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: R.T. P, area NC
Posts: 9,717
Likes: 29,593
Liked 23,017 Times in 5,789 Posts
Default

I'm not sure snap caps are necessary, but as they aren't expensive why take chances?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-29-2016, 08:29 AM
Gulfecho's Avatar
Gulfecho Gulfecho is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 700
Likes: 1,267
Liked 1,522 Times in 442 Posts
Default

I've heard it can hyperextend the firing pin causing damage. I paid $17 for mine.
__________________
"The Dude abides"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-29-2016, 09:17 AM
Rule3's Avatar
Rule3 Rule3 is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 22,085
Likes: 10,798
Liked 15,512 Times in 6,798 Posts
Default

Scroll down to the bottom of this thread, there are many similar weekly, monthly posts on snap capping.
__________________
Still Running Against the Wind
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-29-2016, 09:24 AM
eb07 eb07 is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,233
Likes: 2,809
Liked 5,794 Times in 1,452 Posts
Default

Snap caps are cheap. Have them for all my calibers. No reason not to.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-29-2016, 10:29 AM
7shooter 7shooter is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: In the Cloud
Posts: 1,736
Likes: 2,252
Liked 1,872 Times in 582 Posts
Default

Thanks all. BTW I had not discovered the Similar Threads sections before. My tendency toward the oblivious must be operating.
__________________
I like Ike.

Last edited by 7shooter; 04-29-2016 at 10:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 04-29-2016, 10:53 AM
Rule3's Avatar
Rule3 Rule3 is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 22,085
Likes: 10,798
Liked 15,512 Times in 6,798 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 7shooter View Post
Thanks all. BTW I had not discovered the Similar Threads sections before. My tendency toward the oblivious must be operating.
No worries no one knows they are there. Plus they are not there until someone posts a similar thread (kinda of a time space continuum thing),

The official SW Factory(owners manual) reply is it is OK to dry fire a center fire, I do not see the need to do it on a daily basis though.

FAQs - Smith & Wesson

Can I dry fire my S&W handgun? Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?

A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.

.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.

Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver?

A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin.
__________________
Still Running Against the Wind
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 04-29-2016, 03:09 PM
alwslate alwslate is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 6,628
Likes: 3,725
Liked 7,231 Times in 3,014 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 7shooter View Post
I dry fire one of my S&W revolvers every day usually a Model 10 or 64.
The question I have is this really necessary ?
I have come to realize that my take on this isn't shared by
many S&W owners but being old school and and having heard
from as far back as I can remember not to dryfire(snap) guns
I have to ask; what possible reason does anyone have for
sitting around at home and snapping a quality, closely fitted
older mechanical device like a S&W revolver thousands of
times??? And how can any reasonably intelligent person think
that doing so doesn't subject said precision mechanical
device to wear because a round isn't fired when snapped???
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-29-2016, 06:40 PM
mtgianni mtgianni is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SW MT
Posts: 6,733
Likes: 10,506
Liked 6,027 Times in 2,967 Posts
Default

I met a shooter that competed at Camp Perry. The story was he wore out a trigger group before ever sending one down the bbl. Things wear under use. I have made snap caps for odd calibers by filling in the primer hole with silicone.
__________________
Front sight and squeeze
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-29-2016, 06:48 PM
johngalt's Avatar
johngalt johngalt is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St. Paul (smokey!) MN
Posts: 5,356
Likes: 1,459
Liked 6,725 Times in 2,578 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwslate View Post
I have come to realize that my take on this isn't shared by
many S&W owners but being old school and and having heard
from as far back as I can remember not to dryfire(snap) guns
I have to ask; what possible reason does anyone have for
sitting around at home and snapping a quality, closely fitted
older mechanical device like a S&W revolver thousands of
times??? And how can any reasonably intelligent person think
that doing so doesn't subject said precision mechanical
device to wear because a round isn't fired when snapped???
Dry fire practice is an important part of learning trigger control, especially for bullseye. It teaches you to squeeze the trigger and not jerk it. One drill I have practiced is to balance a penny on the front sight. You should be able to dry fire the pistol without the penny falling off.
__________________
Common sense isn't so common.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 04-29-2016, 07:06 PM
Rastoff's Avatar
Rastoff Rastoff is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: So Cal (Near Edwards AFB)
Posts: 14,710
Likes: 2,926
Liked 17,102 Times in 6,271 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 7shooter View Post
I dry fire one of my S&W revolvers every day usually a Model 10 or 64. Upon the advice of a friend who is a retired S&W employee I always use snap caps.

The question I have is this really necessary ? Is there any real
evidence that dry firing without snap caps is more harmful than with them.
Nope, not one shred of evidence that snap caps prevent damage. Neither is there evidence that dry practice does any more harm than just firing the gun.

Mechanical things wear and break. That's the world. They will wear out through firing them. They will wear out through dry practice. I just haven't seen one wear out from dry practice yet.

I have over 8K rounds through one gun. I do at least 20 dry presses to each live round I send down range. That means I have over 100,000 dry presses on that one gun. It hasn't failed yet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwslate View Post
I have to ask; what possible reason does anyone have for
sitting around at home and snapping a quality, closely fitted
older mechanical device like a S&W revolver thousands of
times???
If a person were doing just this, I would agree with you; pointless. Just clicking the gun has no value, but doing dry practice is the key to improving trigger control. Improving trigger control means your groups will get tighter. Tighter groups are good, right?
__________________
Freedom isn't free.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #14  
Old 04-29-2016, 07:38 PM
eb07 eb07 is offline
Member
Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps Snap Caps  
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,233
Likes: 2,809
Liked 5,794 Times in 1,452 Posts
Default

Some people buy guns to collect and sit in a safe as an investment or hobby.

Some people buy guns to shoot and enjoy and don't care about wear, scratches, or worn out parts.

Some do both.

There is no problem with dry firing unless you bought for the first reason
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Snap caps saemetric S&W-Smithing 10 03-02-2015 09:30 PM
Snap Caps Point 357 S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 2 11-10-2013 04:10 PM
Snap Caps panhandle Concealed Carry & Self Defense 12 05-17-2013 09:08 PM
Where are .41 Mag snap caps? ADash Ammo 2 03-26-2012 08:11 AM
Snap Caps Vigo S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 9 03-10-2012 06:33 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)