I doubt this thread will last, but just had to relay this "news" that I read in the paper.

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Probably one of the most absurd things I have come across.

Actually happening overseas. Gee, why not have sanctioned rooms for alcohol and prescription drugs also?

Heroin is a illegal Schedule I drug! So lets provide it free.
Oh ya, marijuana is in that same class!

I just can not believe it!

Read this AP article.

News from The Associated Press

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Still Running Against the Wind

Netherlands has had it for a long time. It's one of those things that if you're gonna do it may as well be off the streets.

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Most Europeans have recognized the futility of jailing people for the majority of the vices.

In the middle of Zurich, the city has erected a drive-in area for prostitutes to ply their "oldest" profession in safety. After more than a year of operation, it's been hailed as a success.

Zurich Declares Drive-In 'Sex Box' Brothel A Success, But Does The Country Risk Trafficking?

I'm not against it. If it will stop the head on wrecks and wrong way stuff, along with the robberies and burglaries, I don't see a problem. Sure, use the confiscated drugs. It would reduce the profit for the dealers and importers. Might even cut down on the diseases needle sharing promotes. There isn't a profit for the crooked politicians, so don't expect to see it.

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I certainly feel empathy for those with addictions of any kind, however I do not think providing addicts with their drug of choice helps the situation,

It simply makes it nice and neat and tidy and sanitary so people are not dying in alleys or on the streets. Have a room to do your thing, then go into the relaxation rooms with music and nice lighting and leave out the back so no one sees you? Good Grief!

Sure big Cities have provided clean needles for years, get free condoms also.

So they can spend the money to provide drugs and a facility, but not help? The article says they have referrals or whatever but having been involved on the State level with providing programs I have a good idea of how that does not work.

I can not group this in with prostitution as I do not consider that a addiction and is pretty much victim less if they take precautions. Heck of a lot of money is wasted on Law enforcement of stings on Johns and prostitutes.

Why just heroin, why not provide free smoking, drinking, cocaine, etc bars? Get wasted and then maybe have a driving service to take you home?
I do not wish to have my tax money pay for this.

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If you go back into US history before the banning of opiates they could be bought over the counter at any drugstore. Coke Cola originally had cocaine as one of its ingredients.
Were there users yes for sure but the didn't have to commit crimes in order to get there drugs. And BTW: Their use became widespread after they became illegal. Organized crime moved in to fill a vacuum just as it did during Prohibition.
I don't like or approve of drug abuse any more that any responsible Americans but it's clear to me that the "War on Drugs" to date has been a dismal failure.
Jim

You're right but a lot of people don't want help, they want to get high and that's all. They can do it inside boarded up buildings, in an alley, behind the wall of some building, playground or in a place that will "house" them. It's kinda like you shouldn't drink to get wasted but if you are then stay home.

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Granted, but this just seems to darn convenient and also supplies the drugs with the belief that it was stop crime or people dying, To me it just makes in easier for the addicts or enables them.

I do not have the answer to the drug problem, but back in my drinking days it would have been nice to have a free Bar and lounge,

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No I understand but you can only help those who seek it. Can't force someone to stop. By having a place where drugs are free it does stop some crime, usually whatever is associated with getting money to buy the drug and probably the aftermath. While the place can monitor the use and, I'm just guessing here, they probably provide a limited amount. Not enough to OD. And if there is an OD the place has medical personal on hand to deal with it right away

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The patent medicine folks were despicable...for example, Mrs. Winslow's soothing syrup for colicky babies contained morphine...no wonder it put the little tykes out. Many others were just alcohol laden whisky to get past dry county's blue laws. After the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1907, many were put out of business or changed their "prescription" to add medicinal properties. The most hilarious incident involved Peruna, an alcohol laden patent medicine which was high in buzz...but little else...so Dr. Hartman, prodded by the new restrictions, added senna and buck thorn to his remedy...both of which were well established laxatives...you can guess what happened when the new and improved formula hit the drugstores...strong men wept, what had gone wrong with our favorite remedy? Needless to say, it wasn't a big seller once word got out.

This was tried back in the last century.From 1922 to 1925 clinics gave free drugs to Registered addicts until it was determined to be a failure.Unfortunatly some people will always try to find something to give a thrill or alter their life.Drugs are everywhere now and destroying our nation.If we truly want to have a war on drugs, there should be an automatic death sentence for ALL dealers, not some slap on the wrist.These people are the worst kind of murderers.

Most of the violence and crime surrounding drug use comes from the high cost due to it being illegal. Just like prohibition, making drugs illegal is never going to work. It only makes criminals rich and increases the violence and crime in the nation, not to mention the drain on our economy.

I hate drugs, but making them illegal is the dumbest thing a nation can do. The biggest lobbyist to keep them illegal are the drug dealers. LOL Make drugs legal and drug dealers are out of business.

It is much like making guns illegal. It will not work.

I agree but it wouldn't change much. Indonesia has very strict sentences for drug dealers, including death and yet they still have drug dealers


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