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08-15-2016, 07:36 PM
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For those who like deciphering laws ...
For the ones who like the challenge of reading through a state’s law to decipher and understand it. I’m tempted to write to the Connecticut Attorney General to ask the question.
The question: Is it possible for a retired grandmother, one who is legal to drive and only leaves the home to shop, and whom has never committed a crime in her life, to drive to a Connecticut kitchen store to purchase a pairing knife with a 4 inch blade, and bring it home with her in her car, without committing the Class D felony of carrying a weapon in a vehicle?
Here’s the Connecticut law:
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Sec. 29-38. Weapons in vehicles. Penalty. Exceptions. (a) Any person who knowingly has, in any vehicle owned, operated or occupied by such person, any weapon, any pistol or revolver for which a proper permit has not been issued as provided in section 29-28 or any machine gun which has not been registered as required by section 53-202, shall be guilty of a class D felony, and the presence of any such weapon, pistol or revolver, or machine gun in any vehicle shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this section by the owner, operator and each occupant thereof. The word “weapon”, as used in this section, means any BB. gun, any blackjack, any metal or brass knuckles, any police baton or nightstick, any dirk knife or switch knife, any knife having an automatic spring release device by which a blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches in length, any stiletto, any knife the edged portion of the blade of which is four inches or more in length, any martial arts weapon or electronic defense weapon, as defined in section 53a-3, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to: (1) Any officer charged with the preservation of the public peace while engaged in the pursuit of such officer’s official duties; (2) any security guard having a baton or nightstick in a vehicle while engaged in the pursuit of such guard’s official duties; (3) any person enrolled in and currently attending a martial arts school, with official verification of such enrollment and attendance, or any certified martial arts instructor, having any such martial arts weapon in a vehicle while traveling to or from such school or to or from an authorized event or competition; (4) any person having a BB. gun in a vehicle provided such weapon is unloaded and stored in the trunk of such vehicle or in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; and (5) any person having a knife, the edged portion of the blade of which is four inches or more in length, in a vehicle if such person is (A) any member of the armed forces of the United States, as defined in section 27-103, or any reserve component thereof, or of the armed forces of the state, as defined in section 27-2, when on duty or going to or from duty, (B) any member of any military organization when on parade or when going to or from any place of assembly, (C) any person while transporting such knife as merchandise or for display at an authorized gun or knife show, (D) any person while lawfully removing such person’s household goods or effects from one place to another, or from one residence to another, (E) any person while actually and peaceably engaged in carrying any such knife from such person’s place of abode or business to a place or person where or by whom such knife is to be repaired, or while actually and peaceably returning to such person’s place of abode or business with such knife after the same has been repaired, (F) any person holding a valid hunting, fishing or trapping license issued pursuant to chapter 490 or any salt water fisherman while having such knife in a vehicle for lawful hunting, fishing or trapping activities, or (G) any person participating in an authorized historic reenactment.
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It’s amazing how screwed-up so many laws are.
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08-15-2016, 07:46 PM
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So, have you gotten granny a fishing license yet?
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08-15-2016, 07:50 PM
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08-15-2016, 07:51 PM
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Spend a few bucks on a real lawyer liscenced to practice in the subject jurisdictions.
Relying on what you get on an Internet forum is just dumb.
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08-15-2016, 07:53 PM
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Yes.
(D) any person while lawfully removing such person’s household goods or effects from one place to another, or from one residence to another,
Once she buys it, it becomes household goods or effects, provided that is her intended purpose, and is thus being removed from one place (the store) to another (her home) . . .
That will be $150. I have a two hour minimum for investigative work at $75 per hour. USPS money order only. PM for address and payee . . .
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08-15-2016, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
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Spend a few bucks on a real lawyer liscenced to practice in the subject jurisdictions.
Relying on what you get on an Internet forum is just dumb.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe vt_hooter is being a bit facetious and is merely pointing out how obtuse the laws can be at times.
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08-15-2016, 08:44 PM
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Yes.
(D) any person while lawfully removing such person’s household goods or effects from one place to another, or from one residence to another,
Once she buys it, it becomes household goods or effects, provided that is her intended purpose, and is thus being removed from one place (the store) to another (her home) . . .
That will be $150. I have a two hour minimum for investigative work at $75 per hour. USPS money order only. PM for address and payee . . .
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I believe you're right! I initially read that part as moving from one residence to another. Granny must remember to pay for the knife and not steal it, because if she stole it she would not have been "lawfully removing" the knife from the store to her home and thus be guilty of the weapons in a vehicle law.
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08-15-2016, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
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Spend a few bucks on a real lawyer liscenced to practice in the subject jurisdictions.
Relying on what you get on an Internet forum is just dumb.
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It's just my twisted way of having fun with language/laws/interpretations. Not looking for legal advice.
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08-16-2016, 01:13 PM
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Put it in the trunk until she gets home.
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