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There is a concept in chemistry called the "Molal Freezing point depression constant" which basically says the higher the concentration of a solute in a solvent, the lower the freezing point of the solution is. Every solvent has its own constant. The maximum depression of the freezing point of sodium chloride in water is about −21 °C (−6 °F)
Same idea as putting anti-freeze in your radiator.
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No doubt. You can push the freezing temp far lower than 28 degrees. To get it down to -6 degree minimum the "solution" would have so much salt in it that it would probably be more like a slurry - more salt than water.
BUT, since the original reference was to DIVING in water that was below freezing, my statement was in regards to the freezing temp of naturally-occurring bodies of seawater....
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12-08-2016, 10:02 PM
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Hey you leave Martha McCallum alone. When she leaves her husband and job at Fox and comes and lives with me in obscurity in Southern California and takes me shopping at Gun Shows you'll all be jealous.
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12-08-2016, 10:06 PM
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I never thought of that as a how to show, but apparently I was wrong.
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12-08-2016, 10:09 PM
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Bonnie and Clyde were Japanese? I never knew.
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They did, but it wasn't very effective. Basically a rocket-powered and human piloted (kamakaze) winged bomb, dropped from a plane. These were often called Baka Bombs by US sailors, allegedly because "baka" is the Japanese word for fool. Way, way back when I was a wee tyke, I saw one of them. It was in a truck which drove around the country charging a quarter to go inside the trailer to see it. I remember seeing Bonnie & Clyde's shot-up Ford under generally the same circumstances.
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12-09-2016, 01:43 PM
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Bonnie and Clyde were Japanese? I never knew.
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Well, yeah. "Bonnie and Clyde" was one of Big Japans music hits.
this is definately drift....
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12-10-2016, 06:08 PM
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good pic
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To the best of my knowledge, the Messerschmidt Me163 Komet never engaged a B-29, because there never were any in Europe in any combat capacity (or any other of which I'm aware) for them TO engage.
Me-163s did engage some B-17s and shot some down. However they were mostly not worth the effort, since once their small supply of fuel ran out, they were gliders, not only helpless against other fights, but incapable of even moving themselves off of the grass fields on which they landed. After their one or two firing passes, they were sitting ducks, and even more so when on the ground.
The problem with the Me163 wasn't the engines burning out. It was with the engines EXPLODING and killing the pilots. They used highly volatile "C-Stoff" and "T-Stoff" hypergolic fuels. Even a drop of one mixing with the other in uncontrolled conditions could instantly produce an explosion and fire. Even with "empty" tanks, they had a tendency to EXPLODE on landing on their single belly skid, which sometimes caused the fuel tanks to rupture and residual fuels to mingle.
The Japanese developed their own version, the Shusui, but never got it into combat. As close as the Komet or it's offshoot ever got to a B-29 during the war was getting bombed by them on the ground in Japan.
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Thanks for the picture. 'Course you're correct that rocket planes made no significant difference against Allied bombing, why I stated deployed. I've seen pics of a Komet in flight reputedly taken by B-29 gun cameras; guess that could be classed as an encounter or perhaps it was a '17. Doesn't affect the point. Yeager wasn't sure if the Komet he flew-by was even armed, just fast!
AFAIK all rockets had explosion problems, even up to modern times. I'm not a war buff, just a student of technology. Jet aircraft were deployed and used during WWII; were commonplace by the Korean War.
IMHO the most important feat of 1940's aircraft into the 'Fifties was pressurization, not just propulsion systems.
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12-11-2016, 10:16 PM
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