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Old 01-13-2017, 01:32 AM
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Old 01-13-2017, 02:53 AM
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ParadiseRoad, is that going to be for a revolver or a semi?
...single shot...howitzer...
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Old 01-13-2017, 02:35 PM
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I am kinda leaning towards the Phaser....as I recall...no recoil to deal with...stun setting for keeping the teens in the house inline...and when set to "kill"....no remains of the body to clean up...or be accused of terminating..
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Yes, so we can have a "Why didn't the (insert name here) take off debate?".
How about trying to revive an old fashioned/out of fashion round-say 38 S&W or 38-40 in revolvers or say 357 SIG ?

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Old 01-13-2017, 09:07 PM
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I ain't no Elmer Keith but I must admit that when in need of stopping power,the .357, as good as it is is more like a medium caliber.Now don't read me wrong here;I like the caliber.It is,in my book,the most usefull all around caliber most people can have.But when in serious discussion with heavy furry opponent, I'll stick with the saying that goes:.40/200/1000 or more(.40cal or more with a 200 gr bullet or more moving at 1000fps or more).
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I think a .357/44 Bain & Davis in a Coonan would be the answer.
Of course I'm fond of .357 Sigs too!!
And love .357 Magnums loaded with W296, H110 or 2400.

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A new cartridge? That'll mean new reloading dies, shell plate and maybe tool head. More powder and loading manuals....... Hmmmm..... Maybe not a bad idea.
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...this oughta do it...

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That round should be recalled for being improperly marked. It should read "+P".
...but what I REALLY want to know is this:

Can I safely shoot it in my grandfather's .38 Special CTG?
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Old 01-14-2017, 03:55 PM
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It's been done. John D. Pederson invented it for the Pederson device. Called it the 30 Pederson. France adopted the cartridge as the 7.65 Long and developed two pistols (PA 1935A and 1935S), and a submachine gun (MAS 38) for it. In WW II Indochina and Algeria it proved itself too weak. France went to the 9mmP in 1950.

PA 35A; PA 35S. MAT 38 and PA 50.

And how different is any of those cartridges from a 7,62x25?
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Hard to beat the ol' Flying Ashtray.
A car door will stop it in its tracks. It will usually not even get through the first layer of sheet metal. I tried it.
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And how different is any of those cartridges from a 7,62x25?
The 7.65 x 25 has some impressive loads, like 1700 fps with an 85 grain bullet, but being a bottleneck it probably wouldn't hold any more rounds in a typical handgun magazine than a 9m/mm.
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A new handgun cartridge? No. A new handgun - YES! I've been waiting patiently for science to develop the phaser featured in Star Trek. Is that too much to ask before I die?

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