I just got done filling my test tube with spit and adding the preservative. Ready to send it off. Should be interesting. Family name orginally from Italy, but great great great.... grandfather showed up in America in 1630 from England, Great great grandmother and grandfather mixture of French/Indian from Quebec area. Another Great grandmother was German and another English. Gonna find out just what kind of a mongrel I am. Then send a copy to my blood brother and 4 sisters. My kids will get a here is my half copy.

Anybody else done this? Surprises?

I've thought of doing this also, let us know how it turns out.

My great great grandfather was told to leave Great Britain and never return. I may not want to know.

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I've been wanting to do that too. Being adopted, I only have a vague idea of my genetic make up. On the subject of surprises, my sister in law found out that the man that she called Dad really wasn't and siblings were now half siblings. Much to the chagrin of her Mom, I might add...oops!

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I want to get this done this year sometime also.
I half expect to be descendant from Jack the Ripper
or Genghis Khan. haha
I really know nothing past my Grandfathers on both
sides of my Parents. My last name really has no clues.
I would like to know where the family was located
in years past though.

What is the cost of this ?



Chuck

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Think it was $90 or somewhere close.

I was lucky enough that all but one of my gret grandparents were alive when I was born. I remember my Mothers paternal Grandfather (English), her maternal grandmother (German) whom I knew well, lived till 101 and died when I was 22. My fathers Maternal grandmother was a grand old woman (French/Indian)who I got to know also.
Somewhere there is a picture of my Great grand mother, my grandma, my mom, me and my first son as a baby. 5 generations.

My Great great grandfather was a union officer, who after the civil war, rounded up some cows in Texas with his brother and headed them north into Wyoming and Montana. My one Great grandmother homesteaded on the Powder River as a Widow woman with 8 kids and lived in a soddy. My mother was born on her place and the house was still part sod then. Same for another Great grand father. 3 of his sons married 3 sisters from my great grandmother. Another set of great grandparents also came from Minn. in the early 1920s

My second son and his wife did this just before Thanksgiving. The 54% NW European was no surprise. The 10% Scandinavian was expected. The 8 to 10% (I forget which) Jewish was (although his name is Judah!) Big surprise. The >1% Asian Indian and >1% Moroccan came as absolute surprise! There was a chunk of Brittan too, Must be the Scott and Irishman in the wood pile!

Ivan

I wish I could trust in the accuracy of those ancestry tests, then I might order one. Right now I am not convinced. And in any event, I don't care that much what the results might be or their value to me. Call me a skeptic.

OK, your a skeptic. LOL

I think they figure that there is a +-4% on the percentages. They have gone quite a ways with hereditary DNA. I think they are probably reasonably accurate. It doesn't really make a hoot to me, but, I am a curious George. Plus, thought it would be kinda of a neat "gift" to my family. Luckily for me a know fair bit of my most of ancestors recent history in the Americas.

When you send the sample away how much personal info do they ask for?

Also it would be cool if they could tell you if you were related to a famous family.

I did something similar about 10-12 years ago. It wasn't the Ancestry DNA but a NetGeo project to trace migration. I know where I'm from, I know where my parents and grandparents are from so I had a good starting point to know if I was being scammed. The information I got back was very interesting. My mitochondrial DNA....... DNA which changes very little over long periods of time..... last changed in the Russian stepe about 25k years ago. It then spread into Easter and later Western Europe. What I found interesting was that my Eastern European mitochondrial DNA is 96% identical to that of Spain and 75% to Ireland

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I would do it but I think it might come back 1% Cocker Spaniel.

I did it a couple years ago, they had a sale offer going on. I think
it was $79.95. I knew a lot about our family history clear back
to old country. I was surprised at the percentage of Native
American blood. Sadly not enough to get a slice of the Casino
money. They can only tell you native blood, not tribe. About the
only way to prove this, is if your forefather married Indian girl
in church or civil service where a record might exist.

Isn't Jewish a religion as opposed to a race of people?

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Had mine done several years ago. Mostly Scots/Irish with a whiff of English and German. The only surprise was a measurable bit of Iberian Peninsula (Spanish). The only thing I can figure is some "Black Irish" got in there somehow. (When the remnants of the Armada sunk off the Irish coast many of the survivors assimilated into Ireland.)

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Most Jews are Hebrew or Araba .

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How about Levantine, i.e. Eastern Mediterranean?

My wife is the family Genealogist, a very good one. She did the DNA thing and was able to make connections with other folks that have done the same.

Family history is a delicate subject and you can find out both good and bad information while doing research. Sometimes family history turns out to be family tradition with no documentation to back it up. When someone tells me that their family came over on the Mayflower, I ask for documentation. The paper trail is very important.

I forgot to mention with Ancestory.Com you get updates and
links to possible relatives every so often to your PC.

It don't get more personal than your DNA. But I do you think I know what you actual meant, but......

Basically they ask your name and when you were born. With ancestry you can start a tree with father, mother, grandparents, but, not necessary for DNA deal. They say the testing lab is given no information.

My family got a deal and five of us sent ours in at Christmas,no results yet. My sister and cousin have done the paper trail research back to I think 13 generations so we will see how it matches up with that and how close the results match to each other.

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This article in a Jewish newspaper may be of interest:

Newer DNA Tests Uncover Hidden Jewish Bloodlines – Forward.com

and so might this PBS page:

Ashkenazi Jewish DNA and the Potential to Piece Together Shattered Family Branches | Finding Your Roots | PBS

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Seems an incredible waste of money and effort to me but ..... to each their own. I'm more interested in knowing where I'm going than where ancestors "may" have been.

Call me skeptical about the whole thing.

I have been told that my mothers side of the family were Scot-Irish, family supposedly migrated to this country in the 1600's. they came here because the British raised the cost of the families lease on the land they had been living on for a couple hundred years. Being priced out of the land and not being able to return to ireland, the were forced to migrate to the colonies. Some ended up in New Hampshire and some moving to michigan.

My Dad family reportedly can from Wales in the late 1600's

Both my mother maiden name is traced make to the Viking settlers, my father's family name is walsh meaning Saddle maker.

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All of us essentially come from Africa. Couple of spots there.

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Serious doubts about DNA tracing without blood. Even when dogs are tested, only blood is used. What kind of questionaire did you fill out?

We know our son's birth mother side, clearly North European but we don't know about the father's side, except that he might have had some Hispanic background. Our son really looks Samoan. When he was little we did one of the DNA tests that only showed some possible Eaurasian descent. Someone told me that they have come a long way in 17 years and we could get a lot more information. Unfortunately, after a fire and lot of other stuff we don't have the identification number. But for $100 it would be worthwhile to start again. My son says he's not interested it in that after he got over serious issues of abandonment. It wouldn't be such a big deal, except that he's obvious of some extraction outside of your typical European/American and I'm really curious.

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My brother and I got tested through Ancestry.com at the same time last year. They identified us a siblings, but almost all of our information was different.

We know about our great grandparents and they are 6-German, and 1 each Dutch and Scotch-Irish - but the only common factor was that we are both 13% Scandinavian.

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I find it all fascinating. I love genealogy, and greatly appreciate what the internet has done for family research. I know most of my ancestors of European descent, but I have a couple of lines of American Indians that I need to work on. I plan on sending my DNA to them before long. I have never worried or cared about what my ancestors did, or who they were. I don't care if they were famous or "royalty". (Why would you want to come from inbred tyrants?) I find it humorous that some are horrified that one of their ancestors was hanged or a criminal. Most of mine were farmers, a couple of preachers, and a couple of local planters. I live in Texas, Hell you can't get much more "royal" than that.

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Torn & Frayed

I had mine and my daughter's done last year. I told her I wanted to make sure the post man's background didn't show up in her history instead of mine. No real surprises in either results. Well, other than the canine showing up in mine. Not sure what to think about that...

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My wife and I did this with a Black Friday 30% off deal. Got our results after Christmas. It was about $150 TTL for the two of us. Decided to do this for "our gifts". Not really any surprises except that I'm 10% revolver and 22% carbine

The more fun has really been building the family tree. As someone said, the two activities aren't co-dependent. We did get a discount on the ancestry website with the DNA test.

Much of my tree returns to Europe within 100 years and, of course, that's yet another paid membership (there's a trend to this as you go deeper)! My maternal grandfather does go back to the late 1700's or early 1800's in Ohio and in areas I didn't expect. Confirmed some family lore and "explained" others in the research.

Not sure I'll do much more beyond the initial membership. Can't recall if it was 6 mos or 12 mos for $49 with the DNA kit.

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Really? U saw it in Wikipedia?

It's both

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Blood isn't needed although it's the most popular way.

98% Toothbrushes, Ear Wax, Hair with root, Dried blood

95% Nail clippings, mucous on tissue, chewing gum

93% Razors, Baby toys, clothing, dental floss

85% Bottles, cans, forks, spoons, cigarettes



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I took a cold rainy day opportunity yesterday during the NFL games to do some similar research, just because I was curious. It seems to be a much more complicated answer that I first imagined . . .

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At least around here, LEO's have gone almost exclusively to mouth swabs to collect DNA from suspects/incarcerated persons.

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I'm with you, I think they use a dart board.

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I don't think I'll do DNA testing, but it is interesting - almost everything is, really.

It's got to be more accurate than family history, because people have always been people, and messing around is what we do.

I'm sure than anyone who is reading this all have ancestors that were pure as the driven snow (), but those other folks, well, you can be sure of who your mother is. Mostly. I knew a girl who's mother was her (half) sister, but she was raised by her grandmother as her own - didn't find out until she was an adult.

Here's a youtube clip of a song about the subject by Mike Cross, a real favorite of mine:

I'm American.

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You would be a lucky man then!
Mine would be porcupine, or hedgehog, hopefully stay mammal ?

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Jim

DNA tests don't trace family. They will give you a breakdown of your very ancient DNA percentages from world regions. I knew both sides of my family back to the 1500s in Wales and Spain, and still found many surprises. I used 23andMe for the test. 23andMe includes an assessment of genetic disease markers as well, which is interesting and might be a bit scary.
My wife is a 4/4 blood ******* American Indian. I suggested we do her DNA and for a long time she resisted, saying "what for?". Her ancestral village here in AZ was occupied for a long time in the 17th C. by the Spanish. I told her "I bet we can find a Spaniard in the woodpile". She finally relented and sure enough, her test came back 97% Native American DNA and 3% Iberian/North African.

In my post above, why in the world is the word "*******" censored?

******* physics
******* mechanics

oh for pete's sake Kwan Tum

I always liked this genealogy for a keelboatman in Mark Twain's Life on The Misssisippi:

"Sired by a hurricane, dam’d by an earthquake, half-brother to the cholera, nearly related to the small-pox on the mother’s side!"

Then on his general habits:

"Look at me! I take nineteen alligators and a bar’l of whiskey for breakfast when I’m in robust health, and a bushel of rattlesnakes and a dead body when I’m ailing! I split the everlasting rocks with my glance, and I squench the thunder when I speak! Whoo-oop! Stand back and give me room according to my strength! Blood’s my natural drink, and the wails of the dying is music to my ear! Cast your eye on me, gentlemen!—and lay low and hold your breath, for I’m bout to turn myself loose!”

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I got this test kit as a gift for Christmas and said there is no way in heck I am sending my most private information off to a third party. Wonder if that information can be subpoenaed?

I am fascinated with it though

I knew a Dr who's father was a minister. Very well respected family. Last time I was in my home town I stayed at his place. He has past, but his wife is a grand lady. She was telling me that on one of their trips to England the visited the site of the last hanging there. It was one of his ancestors (they knew this before going). She said the grounds keeper was apologetic about the upkeep of the site. They just regarded it as a bit of interesting family trivia.

Knowing my family some of them surely stepped outside the law. Plus, I know that one of my ancestors on my maternal side, shipped aboard a whaler and never came back. Maybe he didn't make it or maybe I have relatives in Hawaii or somewhere. LOL

Although the test is for your ancestral DNA I don't know if it could be subpoenaed. I bought and paid for it. I also bought and paid for my car. Neither of which can be taken without the courts. If the court wants your DNA they can subpoena a mouth swab and have it, why bother with what I send in.

When the legal system takes your DNA it is by mouth swab. I was sitting in court in WA state, over a matter where my late wife was injured. There were several cases in front of that one and upon pleading guilty to the offenses, the convicted were mouth swabbed. Plus, one of my sister in laws works as a supervisor at thee state crime lab here in MT. Trustt me they don't need your blood to find out your DNA.

Like I said all you have to provide is a name. No ID nothing. I could have used Les Wad. Besides there is no chain of custody. I could of filled it with spit from anybody. Think it would make poor evidence.

I've done some research through the Mormon genealogy website which is free. I'm not Mormon by the way, the site is free for anyone to access.

Anyway, I found a copy of my parents marriage license. It showed their wedding date to be in August and my sister, their first child, was born in February of the following year. So I figured it was a "shotgun wedding". My sister never knew this and when I told her she was visibly shocked and said "NO WAY". I thought it was hilarious.

She is lucky she survived being born that early.

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That surprises me. I thought all siblings from the same two parents would have the same genetic information.

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My sister did the DNA test. I'm pretty sure we have the same parents, so mine should be the same.

We were always told we were mostly Scottish. Apparently some of my ancestors lost a few rounds of hide and seek with the Viking horde, since we are 26% Scandanavian.

I bet these tests can cause some lively discussions. As the saying goes: Momma's baby, Daddy's maybe.

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It'd be interesting to know how they store and safeguard all this DNA info. Surely there's no chance it'll wind up in the hands of the govt some day. * wink/nod *

I mean no disrespect to anyone who pursues the path to DNA results, I hope you find that which you seek.

But for me, I find no value in it . . . kind of like a S&W or Colt factory letter. I obviously don't get it.

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