Was reported in the news this morning that a 4 year old boy faces a seven day suspension due to the "zero tolerance policy" at the school he attended....his crime? School authorities stated he had brought a "shotgun bullet" to class...a spent .22LR casing. I pray that this is just a "fake news" item...if not, the lunatics are running the asylum.

Quick, clutch my pearls, I must take to the fainting couch!

They can't tell the difference between a shotgun shell and a 22 casing?

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When it comes to the academic world I think you are correct about who is running the show, if it's not in Hillsdale.

I am embarrassed to admit that I am from Illinois and yes, ignorance abounds here. I would be interested to know exactly where this incident occurred? Best guess would be the "Norhern" part of the state.

Collinsville, IL. (St louis area)
4-year-old suspended for bringing a shell casing to preschool daycare, goes viral on Facebook | FOX2now.com

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No, they can't tell the difference.

...worse is that they can't tell it's empty either...

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We sure live in a different time.....

As a child growing up in Lumberton, NC. I ran around all day long wearing a Roy Rogers 2 cap gun gun and holster rig.

I shot everything that moved including my mother, father, sister, neighbors, and people in cars driving down our street.

If a child played like that today, the 4 block area around his house would be secured, swat team dispatched, helicopter circling overhead and live news teams covering the event.........Amazing..simply amazing.....but more sad than anything......................................................................

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There are no "school authorities" or academia involved, it's a private business. Most of the "reporting" on this that focusses on the cartridge case are blogs of dubious provenance which are buying into the mom's facebook post, just like the Fox news story. The few real news reports I've been able to find indicate that there was a lot more going on with this kid and that the incident that was supposedly only about the cartridge casing actually was only the straw that broke the camel's back.

Thst doesn't mean that ridiculous stuff regarding zero-tolerance policies doesn't happen, but here it seems like the mom knew which buttons to push to get sympathy without anyone bothering to question her story; I don't buy it.

Even worse, they think it matters.

As I stated, I wondered if this was just another example of "fake news", which is rarely objective, and what you say may very well be true regarding the motives of the mother, however, having had my own son get punched in the back of the head by a bully in high school and suspended for three days for "fighting on school grounds" (hard to hit back when you are on the ground) I think certain policies should be reviewed...zero tolerance to me means that rather than punish the guilty, consider each action as no-fault and go on with business as usual.

It just proves the point that it's more pertinent now than ever before to teach and pass on the importance of firearms and the second amendment to those who will follow behind us. It's taken 40-50 years but the public education system and media has done an incredible job of vilafying both. 40 years ago my High School in the suburban Chicago area had a gun club with a rifle team.
My oldest grandson just turned four and this year it's time to start teaching him gun safety and respect. A Red Ryder awaits him in my safe, along with another for his younger brother, when they prove to me they've earned it.

Same as their air-filled brains--completely empty of solid substance.

Myself, I don't think it was right to suspend the child but it is a private pre-school/day care so they can do whatever they want. And its Illinois, what do you expect?

I went to a small rural school system. My wife went to a well to do suburban school system. About 20 years after she graduated, Westerville, Ohio City Schools announced a zero tolerance policy about some nonsense! One of the 14 unassigned assistant superintendents, lived next door to my brother. At an neighborhood outing I told him how glad I was about the policy. It got so quiet you could hear a pin drop. Since I was the only supporter, He wanted me to expound. I said, once the completed Zero Tolerance Policy is in place, there are no decisions to be made. It is very simple, there are NO reviews, No appeals, and No need for assistant superintendents, just a Superintendent, and school Principals. Westerville schools will save all those salaries and that of their staffs,(at the time about $4.5 Million).

I heard on the radio the following Tuesday, the policy had been rescinded!

Ivan

zero tolerance = zero intelligence

I have some slight experience with "zero tolerance" policies. The basic idea is to avoid both the need to make adult level decisions and the appearance of discrimination/differential treatment.

That said, the policies of many school districts do not meet legal standards of due process and are ripe for legal action that would cost them major bucks.

SO glad I got out. I'll tell you what, you cross that river and things change right away. It truly is NOT the land of the free. There are people there (and we all know who they are) who are in complete control and the people of Illinois get the short end of the stick constantly when it comes to gun rights or heck rights of any kind!

Glad I live in a free state (Kansas). I will never go back to Illinois, only to see my family and then I'm gone. I'll NEVER live there ever again.

Zero tolerance rules are absurd. I say this as an educator; one who within the last two weeks took a live .38spl round away from a kid who showed it to me saying "look what I found in woods this weekend". He and his mom got a talking-to by the principal and life went on.
Having said that, the above quote is well said. There was more going on with the kid than an empty .22 shell. How easy it is to allow confirmation bias to inform us rather than the facts of any individual case.
Not everyone is gun/ammo savvy. Big deal. For every stupid case like this there are countless others handled with deference like the one I just described. Painting the educational system with a broad brush as anti-gun betrays ignorance of the reality of running a school so that all kids are safe.

Are you aware that possession of a spent .22 case by a previously convicted felon is a felony?

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Well, I HAVE seen .22 shotshells. Maybe they meant a .22 with a pumpkin ball in it.

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Very intriguing. Please cite case example!

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Here's a couple. I have personal experience with one in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, but the offender's case was apparently not newsworthy enough for a searchable story.

MILLER: D.C. businessman faces two years in jail for unregistered ammunition, brass casing - Washington Times

Replica bullets, dud shell earn weapons conviction for former Washington man | Fox News

I'm not offering any opinion either way about whether this should or shouldn't be illegal. Just noting that it is . . .

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.22 spent casing, or .270? The .270 is a boxer primed, reloadable brass case! The .22 can not be reloaded.

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