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One good thing about the movie may be that it may nudge some of the millennials into doing their own research and find out what Dunkirk was all about. My youngest daughter is real good at calling BS on HW's version of history.
I have to say as well that not all school districts are guilty of ignoring history and government, I work at one of them and get to see what goes on from pre-k all the way to the 12th grade.
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07-23-2017, 08:41 AM
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We saw the movie yesterday. I suggest some research before watching it. I read up to refresh my memory and glad that I did. My wife and her sister were completely lost in it. There was a lot that wasn't mentioned about the evacuation. I thought it was odd they never mentioned that the Brits were evacuated first and then Churchill sent them back to get the French.
I thought it was a good movie and I'm glad I saw it.
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07-23-2017, 12:55 PM
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I wasn't there but however politically sound Churchill's decisions it seems he made the same strategic mistake as Chamberlain the previous year in Norway and again some months later when he pulled troops from North Africa to invade Greece hoping for a foothold in the Balkans.
The result was some 7,000 troops captured and an evacuation of a somewhat smaller scale than Dunkirk.
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07-23-2017, 01:36 PM
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Saw it this morning
IMAX with the before noon discount
Was worth seeing but not spectacular.
I did not like the choice of characters for the infantry.
It did succeed in showing the stoic heroism of the people in the small boats and the professionalism of the RAF pilots
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I saw it today and thought it was good. Not incredible, but very very good.
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I took my son (19 yrs. old) to watch it last Saturday. My poor son is dyslexic and has learning disorders which makes reading and comprehension very difficult for him. He'd been asking to see the film prior to its release, so we went. I was very disappointed in the film. Christopher Nolan is a fine director (Inception, the Batman trilogy, Interstellar, and the Prestige are among his movies), and I appreciate the artistic touches in this film, but overall, I was very underwhelmed and disappointed. I'm a student of history, and without having some basic knowledge of this event, I would have been lost. I discussed the history and background, and the military significance of Dunkirk with my son following the movie, and he said I should have been asked to be an advisor on the movie. Of course, I'm more than 3x his age, and he thinks I rode a dinosaur to listen to Plato, but I fear this is another example of our educational "dumbing down" of our young people.
Bottom line: stay at home and save your money on this one. Wait for it to come out on the rental movie channels or on DVD.
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I watched it with the family last night on IMAX and loved it.
It helps if you're familiar with Christopher Nolan's work. This one was much more straightforward than Memento or Inception, but you still have to pay attention.
He lays it out in the first few minutes with words right there on the screen:
1 - The Mole
One Week
2 - The Sea
One Day
3 - The Air
One Hour
Three timelines. The action on the beach and jetty (mole) takes place over the course of a week. The action on the sea (Mark Rylance's boat) takes place over the course of one day. The action in the air (Tom Hardy's Spitfire) takes place over the course of a single hour.
By the end he has all three timelines in the same place and time. It was masterful film making.
If you invest the effort to keep the timelines straight you'll be rewarded with a great movie experience. If you don't, you probably won't.
It's definitely worth watching on IMAX.
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I was reading in there that some are criticizing the film for lacking women and minorities???? Im sorry BUT--its SUPPOSED to be about Operation Dynamo--NOT a love story. Also, I do not know--and having seen hundreds if not thousands of photos of French, British and Belgian soldiers captured there=not a one=showed any Senegalese soldiers--whom I have great respect for.
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I think ill go see it as a matinee--sometime next week. I gotta get my mind off other things even fdor about 100 minutes.
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Great pictures, Ringo. Some of those SMLEs are the early style with the magazine cutoff.
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Not sure I'll go to see this film. The critics love it (which usually means that it is full of social redemption) but with these reviews ......
Then I read this artical on a NZ news website Tom Hardy's Dunkirk hero based on a real life Kiwi | Newshub
Might get the book Nine Lives and read that instead.
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Great pictures, Ringo. Some of those SMLEs are the early style with the magazine cutoff.
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I used to own three of them. I like those rifles but never fired any of mine. In one-one had two cleaning kits jammed into the stock.
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Going to see it with Sabrina's sister-Susan shortly. Ill give a review next time I can get online.
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Should we rename this one "Pretty Boy Millennial Harry Styles at Dunquirk"?
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Surprisingly enough, Harry Styles was really good. I thought his hair was kind of long, until I saw some pictures of actual soldiers from the evacuation.
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I saw it and I give it a "C" at best. It had so much potential and I was really intrigued at first but after about 40 minutes the movie could have just ended and you wouldn't have missed much. It made the Brit soldiers seem like a bunch of spineless wimps, and the jumping around from scene to scene and back and forth in time was tiring and added nothing to the enjoyment or entertainment value of the movie. Three hundred thousand British soldiers and not one scored a hit with his rifle and many of the aircraft bomb explosions were really cheezy.
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My 13 year old son and I just returned from Dunkirk and we both loved the movie--absolutely wonderful. My 13 year old said, "I was clenching my seat arms and actually scared by those howling German dive-bombers. America should have been there helping the men on the beach." All I could say to that was AMEN.
One of the most touching scenes I have ever seen in cinema is Kenneth Branagh's character's eyes welling with tears when he turned and saw the British civilian navy flotilla coming in to save the troops. Every British heart should explode with pride over that scene.
And the RAF pilot gliding his Spitfire over the Dunkirk beach was one of the most beautiful pieces of film I have ever seen--it sent shivers down my spine. And I actually got a touch motion sickness in the theater I was so immersed in the dog-fight scenes and wanting the Spitfires to splash the Nazi planes.
Churchill's words from the newspaper scene, "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender[,]" also never fails to touch me.
As I was leaving the movie, I thought an American President's words are a fitting tribute to the courage the British and French showed in the face of disaster at the hands of pure evil:--
"But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
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I saw it yesterdayand really enjoyed it. Ill write aseperate review on it comparing the originalwith this one-whichis NOT a remake nr intended to be related toit in any way,shape or form.
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Saw it the other night with my son. Not the best WW2 flick I've ever seen, but it was good...done well.
I was especially impressed by the advances made in computer special effects: I am fairly certain those weren't real Heinkels and Spits mixing it up in the flying scenes, and they looked very, very real.
The storytelling was a little disjointed, bouncing back and forth between the various sub-plots, but I think that conveyed what was actually going on.
It was also interesting to me that the words "Nazi" or "German" were not used. (Or, if they were, I missed it.) And there was no telling of this story from the German perspective...it was British all the way.
It was worth going to see...but I won't be buying the DVD...
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I watched it with the family last night on IMAX and loved it.
It helps if you're familiar with Christopher Nolan's work. This one was much more straightforward than Memento or Inception, but you still have to pay attention.
He lays it out in the first few minutes with words right there on the screen:
1 - The Mole
One Week
2 - The Sea
One Day
3 - The Air
One Hour
Three timelines. The action on the beach and jetty (mole) takes place over the course of a week. The action on the sea (Mark Rylance's boat) takes place over the course of one day. The action in the air (Tom Hardy's Spitfire) takes place over the course of a single hour.
By the end he has all three timelines in the same place and time. It was masterful film making.
If you invest the effort to keep the timelines straight you'll be rewarded with a great movie experience. If you don't, you probably won't.
It's definitely worth watching on IMAX.
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Thanks so much for explaining that! I was wondering what in tarnation that Mole, etc. stuff was all about!
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I agree whom ever made this film had an awful lot of material for making a good film but, dropped the ball. Too many short stories instead of historical?
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I saw it last week and agree the movie wasn't the best. I wouldn't recommend it except for a DVD release or Netflix.
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