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My wife's chick truck(no Diesel F-250) is a 2007 model year. It has just over 74,000 miles on it now. It has the original tires with about 1/3 the tread depth left. Just wondering...do y'all think I should replace the tires? I know some say tires should be replaced every so many years but I have no knowledge whether this is true or not. This is our winter driver. It is probably the best vehicle we have ever used driving in snow.
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Depends. Are they weather cracked on the sidewalls or in the tread? Does the vehicle get driven at high speeds, above 60? If not, you can probably get another year out of them. 7 years is getting pretty old for a tire tho.
My previous set of tires were only 5 years old, and they had very low miles on them, 5000 miles, but dry rot got them. This is what all four looked like.
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Take the truck to a tire store and have them check the depth of the tread to see if there is sufficient amount left .. rubber can also break down and start to crack and may e a reason to replace also ..
most tires are rated for a certain mileage and if you look the tires brand and number up on line you can find that out .. which would give you a better idea also on the longevity of the tires ..
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I usually wait until they won't pass state annual safety inspection any longer but we don't get much snow.
In your case living in snow country, 10 year old tires, and limited tread left I would err on the side of caution and replace them.
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My wife's chick truck(no Diesel F-250) is a 2007 model year. It has just over 74,000 miles on it now. It has the original tires with about 1/3 the tread depth left. Just wondering...do y'all think I should replace the tires? I know some say tires should be replaced every so many years but I have no knowledge whether this is true or not. This is our winter driver. It is probably the best vehicle we have ever used driving in snow.
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I am not a tire engineer, and I don't play one on television, but...
Everything I've ever read about tires indicates that yes, after a certain period of time, they should be replaced regardless of mileage.
I did a little searching, and found this article... Do You Really Need To Replace Those Tires?
Good luck to you...
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Does this still work???
A long time ago it was said that you could stick a penny into the tread and if you saw the top of Lincoln's head, the tire need replacing.
They also used to put wear indicators into the treads and when they tire was worn they showed as bands diagonally in the tread pattern.
If you have adequate tread and the tires are in good shape, you can get more miles out of them. I had some Yokahama tires on a Mitsubishi Montero that wouldn't wear out.
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In Wyoming I would expect 10 year old tyres to be dead with dry rot. In Vegas you are risking blowouts after six years. I went 8 years on my SUV and it was scary when I started looking closely. See link.
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DEFINITELY replace the tires! Tread wear is only half the issue and rubber dry rot is the other half. Any tire that has 70K miles and is 10 years old - don't even bother to look at the tread wear, get her new tires.
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Five to six year old tire with about 30,000 miles on it. The tread had plenty of depth, but peeled off the tire at 60 mph. The tire stayed inflated, and got me about 12 miles to where I was going before I changed it out for the spare.
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YES! Replace those tires (ok, tyres LVSteve!)
It is foolish to try to squeeze the last few thousand miles out of old tires, especially with winter coming on. If my wife needed new tires, I would do some reading on websites like Discount Tire's, Tire Rack's, etc. You can type in your vehicle, year, etc., and they will recommend appropriate selections. They have a lot of customer feedback / comments so you can see what people who actually used them say. Be sure to notice where the commenter is located, since Northern Michigan and Southern Texas will have much different criteria for appropriate tires.
Don't buy the cheapest! Cheap tires are a false economy. Having said that, even the cheapest tires these days are light-years better than what us old guys grew up with.
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Tread doesn't have anything to do with this kind of situation. Tires, like many items, have expiration dates. Typically, I believe they are around 6 or 7 years, although Tire Rack says their experience shows that properly cared for tires will last 6 to 10 years, so your tires are most likely past the time they should have been replaced. ST trailer tires have an even shorter life span - again if I remember correctly - 5 years.
To find out the exact recommended life span for your tires, go to the manufacturer's website or contact them via email or phone.
BTW: Here's what constitutes "properly cared for" includes: keeping them clean, not using tire dressings (including Armour All), running proper pressure and checking that pressure monthly, and keeping them out of the sun as much as possible. Driving falls under that "properly cared for" title as well. Hard cornering, braking and spinning the tires under any conditions will have a negative effect on their life. Pot hole avoidance is another thing that will effect tire life, which in Michigan is impossible to do. OP, if you 'use' your truck for towing or hauling, that can also reduce your tire life, especially if you exceed their load limit. Sometimes people exceed their tire's load limit accidentally. If a tire has a rating of 3080lbs, that is at maximum inflation. If the tire is under inflated, even by a small amount, it lowers the weight rating. So while a person may think their tires are within weight carrying capacity, they may not be.
And don't even get me started on trailer tires, as that's how I learned so much about these rubber donuts!
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Regardless of age, with 74,000 miles on them, and still 1/3 the tread left I want to know what brand tire they are. I never seem to get that kind of wear.
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I would make sure that you get Light Truck Tires (LT) with 10 ply tires Load Range E will last longer with the old bias-ply Snow Tire design, but are Radials. I use them on my E-350 1 ton van. They walk the dog in snow.
I would tell you to replace the tires. The tires rubber appears to be breaking down.
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A good set of tires for my 3/4 ton and 1 ton set us back about a grand. I average 75-80,000 miles per set in about 3 years.
Given the nature of pickups and 4x4's (just assuming here), you may want to err on the side of safety and replace them. I have seen many front tires go at highway speed on trucks and SUV's and it rarely ends well. I see a replacement prior to failure as money well spent.
Good luck in your tire endeavor.
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Thanks for the replies y'all. The tires in question are Goodrich Rugged Trail TA. No cracks splits or anything. The tread on the rear have 9/32 front 12/32. I have another F-250 but it has a 7.3 diesel(2002)with 170,000. It had Firestones originally and I got 74,000 out of them.I had told my wife we would probably replace them 'fore the snow really flies. Surprisingly they both have their original brakes but I am going to put pads and rotors on it and probably re-do the front end. The 2002 just got driven to Delaware. Only problem is some very slight oil leaks have started...I think mainly from not being driven much. under 5000 miles in a year and a half. Now then...what seems to be the better tires out there these days??
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In all of my trucks (F150 & F250) I have had great success using either Bridge Stone and Michelin tires. I've gotten great mileage with them both. On a set of Michelin which were rated for 70K miles, when I replaced them at 97K miles they still had plenty of rubber left on them. (The guy at the tire store said was going to take them home and put them on his "beater" truck as they were far better than the ones he had on it!)
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Regardless of age, with 74,000 miles on them, and still 1/3 the tread left I want to know what brand tire they are. I never seem to get that kind of wear.
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Wife got 83*** miles on a set of Goodyear all terrain tires on a Jeep Wrangler she had back in the late 90's .. They came stock on the vehicle when we ordered it .. only had town miles on them and had been rotated including the spare every 6 thousand miles .. and then ..
A high school kid working at the tire store put them on his Jeep and ran them for almost another year before being able to buy new ones for his Jeep ..
They must have had close to 100 grand when he junked them out .. Have never had tires wear like that before or since !!
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My wife's chick truck(no Diesel F-250) is a 2007 model year. It has just over 74,000 miles on it now. It has the original tires with about 1/3 the tread depth left. Just wondering...do y'all think I should replace the tires?
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Don't overthink this and don't play guessing games with your safety and that of others you might encounter on the road.
Get some new tires.
I won't even comment on that whole "chick truck" thing.
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I went with 10-ply Michelin LTX All Terrains and they're great in the snow, seem to go for a lot of miles and handle well. They're a little loud, and they ride kinda hard, but hey, it's a truck.
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Three weeks ago I changed out the last factory original tire (Continental) on my 2003 Ford Ranger. It has about 78K miles on it. That's 14 years of wear on that tire. I changed it mainly because it was starting to get cracks in the tread, not because the tread was worn too thin (but it was getting there). I replaced it with a new Chinese tire (Lion brand) from my friendly local Mexican tire shop, because it was about $30 less than from anyone else, and those guys don't even charge state sales tax if you pay cash, and no disposal fee. That's fine as far as I am concerned, as I don't drive the Ranger very much, and that Chinese tire will probably outlive either me or the truck, whichever comes first.
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... I had told my wife we would probably replace them 'fore the snow really flies. ... Now then...what seems to be the better tires out there these days??
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Best to get them now. If you wait till the first big snow, you will be in line behind everybody and his brother at the tire shop.
What to get? I asked around on different Forums and checked Discount Tire and Tire Rack. A lot of knowledgeable folks recommended Goodyear DuraTracs for my 4WD Taco (Toyota Tacoma). I bought them for exactly $800 / set of 4 OTD after rebate from Discount Tire. That was a year ago. No regrets. Yes, you can hear them when you drive, but the noise is not intolerable by any means. You can get quieter tires, but what are you giving up? I got them because they have a great reputation for handling snow & ice (they have the highly touted snowflake symbol on the sidewall, not all tires qualify for it).
I expect them to last 6 to 10 years so the cost per year is not much. I can drink cheap beer, I can eat cheap peanut butter, but I can't drive on cheap tires.
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The thing that scares me about old tires is this. As the rubber ages it also gets harder, this reduces the "grip" it has on the road. On a dry road it not so bad but on a wet road look out. I as well as most of us drive on wet roads a lot more than snow.
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Any company can make tires that wear like iron. Of course, they slide like iron on rain, snow, and ice! The engineering magic is to make the best possible compromise between traction, wear, noise, handling.
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The original tires on my 2012 Sportage Turbo had only 19,000 miles on them and still had 80% tread left but they were starting to dry rot. I replaced them and I really think you should replace the ones on her truck. Better safe than sorry where she is concerned.
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The worst tires I ever had goes back over 10 years ago, and they were Toyo which I bought at NTB. The rubber on the sidewalls started checking badly at about 3 years and I changed them out. Any tires made by Toyo immediately went off my buy list forever, as did NTB. NTB flat refused to do anything about those tires.
Surprised that no one has yet mentioned anything about the big Nitrogen scam.
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Surprised that no one has yet mentioned anything about the big Nitrogen scam.
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I find that 75-80% nitrogen works well in my tires.
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I would change them. I've had tires blow (trailer) that showed no dry rot, little tread wear, and were properly inflated. They were just old.
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I find that 75-80% nitrogen works well in my tires.
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Ever try 21% oxygen with that nitrogen. I got 85,000 miles out of a set of Pirelli tires on my GT Mustang with that combination.
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Never had a tire blow out. Once on a drag strip... Going to go to see what we can come up with tomorrow. Got to go to the dentist in Billings Checking Sam's Club and Costco on line in a few minutes. Y'all are right. I may as well do it now
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My 1996 f250 diesel carries Goodyear Wrangler Pro Grade and are about 1/2 worn at 45000 miles. I would look at these very hard as they are great in snow and on hardpack hiway. Not so good in mud, but better than a lot of others if You keep the rev's up so they clean. My next choice would be Michelin LTX.
My truck mostly goes hunting and fishing and I have only used chains a few times.
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I just replaced the OEM tires on my 98 Corvette this summer, about 20,000 miles on them. They were not cracked/dry rotted, but they rode rough and not very grippy in the wet.
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