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Old 08-13-2018, 09:13 AM
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I have a deck that I built about two years ago. Pressure treated lumber. The problem is, I just recently got around to building the sides (handrail) on to it. So, it's a mixture of two year old and brand new lumber. We bought some Valspar sealant/stain at Lowe's and started sealing the older wood yesterday. I've heard you shouldn't stain or seal brand new pressure treated. What would happen if you did? I'd really like to get it done.
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The stain will not penetrate the new wood correctly.


Stain will not penetrate the old wood correctly if you did not clean it and prep it correctly either. It needs to be pressure washed and a "acid" type wood cleaner used then let dry. Then satin.


Stain is pretty much just thinned paint. So the rules are Prep Prep prep.
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I got tired of looking at my neighbors dirty fence, and decided to clean my side of it. I sprayed a 50/50 mix of bleach and water on it and rinsed it off with a hose. I was gonna get the power washer out, but was satisfied with the results.

Huge difference between what I cleaned and the section against his house.

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Gotta wait 4 months before installation and application on new pressure treated wood. Don't ask how I know.
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Paint is pretty much a surface coating. Stain penetrates wood deeper than paint. New pressure treated wood has too high a moisture content to allow for a coating of paint to stick or stain to penetrate properly. Letting it dry for a few months allows the moisture content in the wood to lower enough for it to take a coat of paint or stain, or sealer for that matter. As mentioned, a good dose of bleach/water mix will clean up the old and mildew from old PT lumber and is a good prep if you want to stain or reseal it. Be careful with pressure washing any wood. Too high a pressure can damage the woods cell structure which will shorten it usable life.

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I know your dilemma! My first home had a cedar Deck and a Cedar Fence. I spent way way way too much time power washing, bleaching, staining and sealing the both of them and swore to myself and my Wife when we moved = NO MORE WOOD! Wood is beautiful when kept up with, but it never lasts very long and is a Royal pain in the Butt!!

We have an in ground pool in my current home and I must have a fence by law. We installed a powder coated cast Aluminum fence (looks like cast iron but never rusts) that is maintenance free - I love it!! It provides little in the way of privacy, but that is what the bushes and shrubs I planted are for.

I advise anyone who asks me about installing a fence to stay away from wood if at all feasible. Unless it is covered by shrubbery or woods, it's a pain to maintain!

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44 years in the paint business, rule of thumb. Always splash some thinner or water on a surface that you are going to paint, stain, seal, etc. and see what happens. If it beads up that's exactly what your coating will do. Then it's time to let it weather longer or if it has to be coated, get the pressure washer out and keep at it till the water quits beading up. Just be careful with the pressure washer.

Pressure treating lumber is done with salts and though moisture content plays a role in painting pressure treated lumber those salts have to be removed from the surface of the wood so often water from rain or careful pressure washing helps the lumber's pores open up and accept a coating.
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My deck is 30 years old and we just had some sections replaced.The sections replaced were the most open to the weather and directly connected poolside. We have an above ground pool and the deck connects to it
Always used Olympic Deck stain with longlasting results. The main deck which is under roof looks great after all these years
When we had the sections replaced I waited two years to stain and then used a cleaner and pressure wash. It turned out well.
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My ex in laws built a deck with stairs up to a screen porch about 20 years ago. All composite with stainless screws. Cost a fortune but looks same today as it did on day 1. Over time it will wind up being the cheapest way to go. No maintenance and will last forever.
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So, what I'm hearing is I need to get a pressure washer.
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So, what I'm hearing is I need to get a pressure washer.



Not really. The Behr cleaner can be mixed with water and sprayed through a plastic garden(bug) sprayer. Let it work then hose it off.


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Go to an independent or company owned paint store for products that people that do this stuff for a living use. Look for Wolman's cleaners, they actually invented pressure treated lumber many years ago. As far as stain TWP is the best, check the reviews. I have always tried to avoid "big box" retail type products. I would avoid Behr products if at all possible. Their paint is garbage I can't imagine their cleaners to be any better. I'll disagree with the garden hose, find a pressure washer. You want to remove every trace of the cleaners you used before you finish, a small pressure washer has the power and capacity to do it.
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Cabot oil stain is good, too. This photo is from 2007. The stain was applied in 06, fence boards are cedar and the posts and rails are pt. Still looks good today but it's almost time to redo. Thankfully I sold the place 2 years ago so it's no longer my problem.

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