So I read that ATF is about to ban them. So why are they not going crazy in price off of places like Gun Broker? I see them selling for 150 plus or minus. I would think they would be going for crazy money. I know a lot of guys think they are junk and you should not have them. But some people think you should not have High Cap. mags. But when they threaten to ban them they go from 8 bucks to 100 bucks as I saw with Cheaper than dirt and Lucky gunner selling them for after Sandy Hook. Are people afraid of the Gov. knowing you have one if you buy it off of a public place like GB? Are they going for much more at gun shows where you can do cash and walk out?

I think some folks are concerned that bump stocks will be confiscated, so it is better to sell now and allow someone else to take the loss.

The more likely result will be regulation of newly manufactured products (perhaps as machineguns, perhaps as "any other weapon") with future possession and transfers subject to NFA requirements, with those products now in existence 'grandfathered' with requirements for registration and regulation of future transfers. This is what happened when NFA was passed; existing machinegun owners were allowed to register their weapons without cost, with future transfers regulated by NFA rules. There were also several amnesty periods allowed for NFA registration during the 1950-1970 time period, with citizens permitted to register NFA weapons without fear of confiscation or prosecution.

In any event, those bump stocks are likely to be around for a long time to come, and some level of commerce will continue, whether in lawful channels or in black market venues.

Bump fire stocks might not be worth much...if you can't find a place to shoot a firearm that is equipped with one. Our outdoor range safety committee is still under debate, on whether they should ban the use of bump fire stocks on the range here in Maryland.

I don't have a need for a bump-fire stock, since I can bump fire some of my semi autos without one. And I can rapid fire around 300 rounds per minute without bump firing.

I am much more accurate semi auto. BF Stocks to me are just a thrill toy. I have nothing against them but its a lot of ammo. I would be a lot of owners put them in the ground. A couple of plastic bags and or vacuum sealed Mylar would make it last forever. Plastic in the ground is said to be stable for 500 years. I think when states banned them they got very few turned in.

The stocks are awesome highly accurate and incredibly fun.

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After that Vegas concert shooting people were listing them for up to $1K on Florida Gun Trader.

I seriously doubt any sold.

I went with the Fostech Binary II trigger instead. The ATF can pull the plug on any of them at anytime they want since they write the laws and can choose NOT to grandfather them in too. I'm taking my chances and I purposely ordered my trigger from a LGS that has a firing range with the agreement I would be able to shoot it there.

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Yippie yippie kaya! My LGS just called and said my binary trigger is in! Know where I'll be head'n after work.

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The fostech is the best. The reset takes some getting used to. Here's some bump stock on target at 550 yards.

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Bumpstock $150.00, rubber bands 3/$0.15...

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Don't forget belt loops.

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Better be careful with rubber bands and shoe laces those are illegal the bump stock is still OK except for certain States

Not that I've actually done it but a proper rubber band looped around the mag well and behind the trigger is better than a bump stock, more controllable accuracy and burst wise. Or so I've been told of course. Joe

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I did take time to read the ATF request for comment, and understood that they would be outright banned, with the biggest list of comments being about current ownership and potential restitution. That could have changed.

I expect they will become totally illegal for possession or transfer.

I tried one the first time a couple of weeks back at the range. I can tell you they are no fun for an old guy with bones that are coming apart by the day. One minute with an AR-15 and 556 gave me all the beating I could take for the day. I like to go to the range for fun, not a beating.

The quickest way to get control of bump stocks is to put a 200 tax stamp like I had to get when I built a Holmes MP82 machine pistol make them do what I had to do in 1983 to built the machine pistol, this will filter out 90% of the buyers and the feds will get 200 a pop and they will know who has them. Jeff

I was very young, but I remember my grandfather wrapping up some sub machine guns ( most likely mp40's) in canvas and grease and walking out to the end of his dock and dropped them in the water. I remember him trying to explain to me why he couldn't keep them anymore, but I was too young to understand. But he did tell me to remember where he put them, and I still remember. He had a bomb shelter , it had a submarine hatch door, and he would take me out there once in a while and show me the guns, grenades, gas masks, etc he had stashed out there.

I heard they were going to be banned after the Vegas shooting, but haven't heard much since. What's the best source to follow updates on?

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I reread the proposal. There would be a grace period to destroy or surrender them, then possession becomes illegal with the exception of LE / military. No discussion of adding them to the NFA tax-stamp routine.

Since they are still in the allowed review period, there is nothing new.

Bump stocks will be banned, no doubt in my mind.

As of 10/1 they are illegal in Fl along with binary triggers. 3rd degree felony. Joe

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That was the way to go until May of 1986 when the ATF said no more making or converting a full auto weapon.

I bet you only waited a week or two for your stamp, instead of the 8 to 12 months wait time now days.

Found this online, $631 for a Colt M16 in 1979. Can't touch one now for under $20K.

Wood714 The best I remember was it took about 11/2 or 2 months for the paper work to come, I posted it here on the forum for sale but got no feedback, if you look in posts by me it may still have pictures of it. Wood 714 I just checked my posts there is a picture of the Holmes MP82 that I posted here it was posted on 10/30/2009 I was surprised that was still up, you can see a home made machine gun. Jeff

They should drop the 1986 law and allow people to register and build machine guns again.

I bought a lot of stuff at that place. My sales person was a gal. She was required to be armed at work and seriously...she had an actual Uzi in her desk drawer. The place was in a kinda downscale residential area and had a razor wire topped fence around it. They sold full auto etc and to get in you had to wait to have a salesperson come out to get you. Otherwise you were locked in to a vestibule. That gal helped me get a Pennsylvania carry permit....mainly because of the area they were in...and a Pa explosives permit. I bought 4 magazines for a Swedish K at that place for 5 dollars each.

Why would LE / military ever want one of those silly bump stocks?

That's most CooL. Would sell for a lot more than that now days.

I'm sending a form 1 in next week, and expect 8 to 12 months wait time. Hope I live long enough to get the damn thing.

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I can see bump stocks being either grandfathered or allowed to be registered as an NFA item. I can't see the Feds requiring that they be either surrendered or destroyed without fair market compensation.

Bump stocks are toys and a fine way of wasting ammunition, but who am I to criticize? I just bought my second machinegun. I have to wait for my transfer paperwork to be approved. I'm thinking next June, give or take a month. It took 8 1/2 months for approval for my first machinegun.

I bought about ten of them on October 2-3 of last year, then put them on GB over the next few weeks as the media, of the time, was hyping a ban on them...

They aren't a controlled part, like a receiver, so who is going to know who owns what?

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They won't know until you have one out in front of someone who rats on you (mad girlfriend, ex wife, ...) or you get caught in some sort of search by LE.

How would "control of bump stocks" have stopped the evil murderer in Las Vegas???

If they register the stock this might not be so bad it is still far less than a M-16 today... And it could be swapped to any AR. It could be worth it to make a nice billet bumpfire just in case they grandfather them in. In 1985 we were registering auto sears $15.00 for a sear and $200 for a transfer now they sell for15 to 2 grand... 8 1/2 months for a transfer sucks... My first machine gun took about 8 weeks... lol

I receive a couple of different gun related newsletters each month. I forget exactly which ones this story was in but I'm sure you can google it. I have seen the video.
Trump recently stated publicly that the bump stock ban is near reality. They're still working on the wording to make sure its air tight, but it will happen soon and he will sign it.

From what I understand the ban will be outright. They must be turned in or destroyed. No possible way to legally own one.

Personally, I don't have one, have no use for one and don't want one. However, I think the whole idea of banning a non registered add-on part sets a bad precedent for our future.

Why not make them like any auto weapon and require registration of the part and a special license.

I shoot too fast already with my semi guns. With some of them I can got through a 30 round mag in a few seconds. I'd be better off putting on the brakes rather than stepping on the gas.

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Problem with these fast shootin' guns is the price of feeding them..........Me, I'd rather take my time, savor the shot and hit what I'm aiming at. But then again, I'm just a dumb ***.

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No, I'd say you're an enlightened person. I had the same lightbulb go off in my head when I recently shot some 110 grain .30-06 varmint loads from my Dad's Remington 700. Not only did I hit a small steel plate at a long distance, the boring old 110 grain JSP's punched a 1/2" diameter hole right through the plate. That got me thinking about all the tactical goons spraying lead all over and talking about the penetrative qualities of their FMJ ammo. I'm beginning to think that a simple, scoped "deer rifle" is the best SHTF weapon in existence. I guess I'm the dumb *** now.

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The bump stocks are bad press for gun owners, much like these new hi cap shotguns. Good for a testosterone rush, but beyond that, not so much. As greyfox said these being banned outright sets a bad precedent for the future.

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I don't see how there wouldn't be a grandfather clause and not be unconstitutional, especially at the federal level. Ex post facto.

When I sold my last one, I cried. I wiped my tears with the money people are/were willing to pay.

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I own long range guns real machine guns and a bump stock all of them are fun in their own way. Everyone on here owns their gun for the fun of it how can some of you be so biased and single minded to support banning another persons form of fun? How about if we ban the most dangerous guns that would be Long range rifles and hunting rifles.. Would you want the other shooters to agree with that so you will loose the right to have the gun you want?

I have never had someone say they did not enjoy shooting a full auto NEVER... But how many people can afford $10-20 thousand to own one? or several? A bumpfire stock makes it affordable to own. If they are going to ban bumpfire stocks they should allow the sale of new full auto weapons instead. I would be more than happy to give up a plastic bump stock for the ability to buy or build a real full auto at an affordable price...

To any of you critics who want to ban bumpfire or can't afford the ammo and think they can not be fun I invite you to shoot one of mine and I will supply the ammo... I will bet you will enjoy it...

What he said, he's right you know. I just took my AR pistol out with the new Binary trigger and it was the most fun I've had shooting in years! This thing just puts a huge grin on your face, too much fun. We'll see what happens when they come after the binarys too?

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I think it's important for shooters too learn how to shoot rapid fire with light recoiling firearms, rather than depending on bump fire stocks, binary triggers, etc and even the art of bump firing itself.

Shooting a torso with six shots in six seconds (holes touching each other) is effective --- Shooting a torso with six shoots in 1.5 seconds (in a combat effective zone) is also effective, but one is obviously a lot more efficient.

Its been said: That in order to teach the subconscious how to shoot rapid fire....you'll have to fire about 30,000 rounds --- So as a result --- All the shooter has to do is just aim the sights and and let his/her subconscious pull the trigger.

I’m of a similar opinion. And would only modify the definition to include that scoped rifle be a short-action lever.

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Nothing wrong with lever guns. They're my "goto" guns...especially the ones chambering magnum pistol cartridges. But as far as punching holes in steel, I've yet to shoot a lever gun which can do that as well as a .30-06.

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This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

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There was some mention of bump stock prices earlier. I remember right after the Las Vegas shooting and the ban talk got serious, I saw bump stocks listed for sale and at gun shows for $400-450. And people were buying them!
Then when it became apparent that it would be an outright ban, prices dropped like a rock. I just checked the local Armslist and there is one listed for $150 and that ad is several months old.