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Valkyrie
I have never been much of a fan of Tom Cruise but I think he did a credible performance in the movie "Valkyrie". it is just too bad that this attempt on Hitler and many others failed.
20 July plot - Wikipedia
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I'm not a big of him either. It was an excellent film and he was great. Many correct details and locations.
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I've never been a fan of Tom Cruise since he made that movie where he played that young cocky guy.
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^^^^I am the same way but I really liked Valkyrie!
Another EXCELLENT sleeper along this line is Anthropoid. You WWII fans who may have missed will enjoy. It’s about the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich. Anthropoid (2016) - IMDb
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Valkyrie is a good movie. Cruise is a solid actor that does a good job of selling his roles.
His beliefs and personal life I leave in the lobby.
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Valkyrie
I was unaware of other attempts on Hitler's life ?
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Given the historic significance, plus the fact that it is a fascinating story well-told, one should not get too hung up on Tom Cruise.
Many other fine actors, Kenneth Branagh, Terence Stamp, even Eddie Izzard, have larger or smaller roles.
Also, after some initial concerns about trivializing Hollywood fluff and Cruise‘s personal affiliations, the Germans granted access for filming to many of the actual sites, so the film achieves an unusual level of authenticity. That wasn‘t easy, especially regarding the Bendlerblock buildings in Berlin, in 1944 the HQ of the Replacement Army and center of the plot and today part of the German Ministry of Defense.
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I was unaware of other attempts on Hitler's life ?
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The man led a charmed life.
The official count is 42 assassination attempts. No wonder some of his followers believed his claims about being protected by Fate.
In the most famous one before Valkyrie, in 1939 a man named Georg Elser planted a bomb in a pub in Munich where Hitler spoke every year. Hitler left early; eight other people died, as would have Hitler had he still been at the podium.
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I was lead here under a false pretense! I thought we were going to discus the 224 Valkyrie!
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I've never been a fan of Tom Cruise since he made that movie where he played that young cocky guy.
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Oh, yeah. I remember that one!
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I liked the movie, and Tom Cruse just doesn't make bad movies. One think about the movie was the artificial eye stuff. Whoever directed that portion of the movie obviously didn't know anything about them.
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Tom Cruise did a great job in Valkyrie. I also enjoyed him in Oblivion, a vastly underrated movie IMHO.
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Another EXCELLENT sleeper along this line is Anthropoid. You WWII fans who may have missed will enjoy. It’s about the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich. Anthropoid (2016) - IMDb
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Anthropoid tried its damnedest to put me to sleep, until the last act.
If you liked Anthropoid and Valkyrie, check out Operation Finale. Comedian Nick Kroll knocked it out of the park.
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Tom Cruise did a great job in Valkyrie. I also enjoyed him in Oblivion, a vastly underrated movie IMHO.
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" ... you, Sally."
Take a gander at Edge of Tomorrow. Although to be frank, Emily Blunt could have carried a sack of concrete through that film.
And if you like that, go for Elysium, which is admittedly weaker, but a good transition to the gloriously moronic fun of Hardcore Henry.
I watch way too many movies.
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It's a movie. Actors are just that, Actors.
That doesn't give them anymore say than any other voter. We wish!!!
What these ------'s have is a camera and a microphone.
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Actors die by the script or the director.............
nuff said.
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My favorite Tom Cruise movie was Risky Business. I personally wish him well, but avoid movies that he is in. No matter what the historical setting, I just see the goofy kid that jumped up and down on Opra's couch.
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i'm late to the party here but i do agree that it was a very good, well made movie.
i'm also not a fan of cruise but he has been in some good movies collateral being my favorite.
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Re-igniting the thread...
I just remembered something, from Mission Impossible 5.
YouTube
(1) That's actually Tom Cruise.
(2) They didn't CGI the scene, they shot it live and CGI'd a single safety cable out of the shot.
(3) Everyone figured it would be a one-and-done shot, just a single take. Cruise did it eight times.
(4) That scene was shot in the middle of winter.
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Valerie was a very fine movie. As well also enjoyed War of the Worlds. Sincerely. bruce.
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Originally Posted by Absalom
Given the historic significance, plus the fact that it is a fascinating story well-told, one should not get too hung up on Tom Cruise.
Many other fine actors, Kenneth Branagh, Terence Stamp, even Eddie Izzard, have larger or smaller roles.
Also, after some initial concerns about trivializing Hollywood fluff and Cruise‘s personal affiliations, the Germans granted access for filming to many of the actual sites, so the film achieves an unusual level of authenticity. That wasn‘t easy, especially regarding the Bendlerblock buildings in Berlin, in 1944 the HQ of the Replacement Army and center of the plot and today part of the German Ministry of Defense.
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Visited Berlin last fall, took these photo where the Stauffenberg, his aide(Werner von Haeften)and two other conspirators were shot:
BTW-IMO, they got off easy compared to the other plotters, some of whom were slowly hanged with piano wire-ugly scenes that were filmed for Hitler's perverted pleasure.
(I've been reading a lot about the German resistance-a very sad story. Some of its members were in the highest echelons of the German military; incl. Canaris-the head of the Abwehr(German military Intelligence).
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Regarding artists with bad reputations:
Tom Cruise’s acting is better than most.
Woody Allen’s movies are often funny.
Wagner’s music isn’t as bad as it sounds.
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Re-igniting the thread...
I just remembered something, from Mission Impossible 5.
YouTube
(1) That's actually Tom Cruise.
(2) They didn't CGI the scene, they shot it live and CGI'd a single safety cable out of the shot.
(3) Everyone figured it would be a one-and-done shot, just a single take. Cruise did it eight times.
(4) That scene was shot in the middle of winter.
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But then you wouldn't get that dramatic "wrong door" bit, the joke, Cruise getting flung into the plane and almost bouncing out, or the baller parachute exit.
And it probably wasn't worth painting the plane for something only nerds would notice. Besides, I thought it was funny you could "hack" a plane.
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My favorite Tom Cruise movie was Risky Business. I personally wish him well, but avoid movies that he is in. No matter what the historical setting, I just see the goofy kid that jumped up and down on Opra's couch.
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You watch Oprah?
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Regarding artists with bad reputations:
Tom Cruise’s acting is better than most.
Woody Allen’s movies are often funny.
Wagner’s music isn’t as bad as it sounds.
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Exactly. And some upstanding artists with pro-gun reputations are horrible actors.
In order not to upset folks here, I’m not going to mention Chuck Norris. Oops ...
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I thought Cruise was very good in Collateral as Vincent,
the determined killer for the mob.
And his recent Mission Impossible films are triple
hoots of fun and humor.
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My complaint about the film is at the same time a compliment. It is amazing how the filmmakers managed to distill a years long and complex "coup" involving many players and side stories into a 2 hour film. They did a good job of compressing it into a movie. That said, having read a few history books about the real July 20 plot, it was obvious to me how many people, events and key pieces of information were left out. One important thing left out was that the plotters had other interests which were less altruistic than those portrayed in the film. Their motivations were a little more complicated than just killing the evil Nazi leadership and saving all the Jews in concentration camps. That didn't really come across in the film.
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One of Honda's very best over the years........
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Plus it had a P-40 in it! I thought it was good movie, might be time to watch it again.
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