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4 wolf cross dumped in my area
Someone in Honey Grove Texas had 4 cross wolves and was told to get rid of them. They dumped them in my area and are running in a pack and killing peoples pets. Someone got a photo out of their back window. I learned about this just now. This is a wooded area and they are on the loose. They look like a sled dog to me but they are calling them wolf hounds and wolf dogs. What would be the correct name?
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"Made to kill other animals."
Well, all dogs are made to kill other animals; they ain't herbivores.
Wolf dogs aren't for everybody, sometimes they're docile and sometimes they aren't.
Thank God they weren't pit bulls (stirrs the pot...)
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They look like good target practice.
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I would be surprised if a pack of killer hybrid wolves makes it 24-48 hours in Texas. Notice in the background of the picture of them (in right corner) there is a dueling tree, and several metal targets hanging!? I suspect there is a message in that picture about how things will turn out for them.
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They look like beautiful dogs to me with the Alaskan Husky curly tail. I'd be inclined to live-trap them and have animal control make the call if they can be turned into a pet before I shot one.
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Someone in Honey Grove Texas had 4 cross wolves and was told to get rid of them. They dumped them in my area and are running in a pack and killing peoples pets. Someone got a photo out of their back window. I learned about this just now. This is a wooded area and they are on the loose. They look like a sled dog to me but they are calling them wolf hounds and wolf dogs. What would be the correct name?
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I worked a case where two wolf/dog hybrids killed and partially ate a 6 year old boy. He had played with them earlier in the day, but when he ran past them at dusk they pulled him down, and I’ll spare you the rest. Some wolf instinct was triggered, according to one of the experts I contacted.
Somebody should just shoot those things now.
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Targets...and the idiot that turned them loose should be charged for creating a dangerous situation and have to pay for all they kill. When they pack up and start killing they usually don't stop...... except permanently. BTW...most critters like these are hard to live trap especially after the first is caught
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Targets...and the idiot that turned them loose should be charged for creating a dangerous situation and have to pay for all they kill. When they pack up and start killing they usually don't stop...... except permanently. BTW...most critters like these are hard to live trap especially after the first is caught
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Owner has been located and owned up but I don't know the - who- what- when- where -and why - at the moment. I understand one is no longer with us.
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I think I would call a couple of my buddies who are good shots, hang some bait, and dispense with this problem.
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Breeding them was popular around Boulder for years. The few I came across (leashed) had the coldest eyes. Those four have a lot of malamute in them.
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AAUUGHHH!! Don't get me started on irresponsible pet owners!!
We had a family move into our little town from the city a couple of years ago. They had a couple of good-sized dogs (a Labrador and a Goldendoodle) which they allowed to run loose. After all, it's the country. Right? Lots of open space. Let's all sing a chorus of "Born Free" while we're at it.
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The old boy went outside, saw a bunch of feathers scattered all over and a couple of dead chickens. The dogs were still going after the rest of the chickens and were pretty defiant, not wanting to give up their fun. The rancher calmly reached inside his pickup, pulled out his rifle and shot both of the dogs.
Of course, the couple who owned the dogs were extremely upset. I mean, what's a couple of smelly calves and a bunch of chickens compared to two beautiful, registered canines?
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Anyway, the couple got a quick education. Of course, they now consider the local agricultural people a bunch of mouth-breathing hicks, but that's beside the point.
Bottom line, some people shouldn't be allowed to own dogs...or any pet for that matter.
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Those animals in that photo don't look a bit like wolf hybrids (the correct name) to me.
I've been around quite a few hybrids. Frankly, I've never seen a wolf hybrid whose tail curled up like that. If those animals have any wolf in them, it's minimal.
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It isn't that wolf hybrids' eyes are "cold". We're human, and we're accustomed to seeing (mostly) a dog's soft brown eyes. The hybrids have wolf eyes, that's all. That's how they should look. We get the impression of "cold eyes" because when we come in contact with them, they don't usually approach us with that doggy-grin-waggy-tail thing. Unlike a lot of dogs, the hybrids will stare directly at our face as they approach, usually with their head slightly lowered.
I'm against breeding wolf hybrids. 98% of the people who buy them see this cute fluffy sled dog looking puppy with huge paws who will grow into a really big "dog" with a lot of usually destructive habits. These poor hybrids usually end up abandoned, killed, or sent to sanctuaries that are privately funded. Or sometimes they'll simply live out their lives inside an 8' x 12' dog "run". It's a truly miserable existence for them.
The people who buy them want this super cool dangerous looking animal to parade before all their equally ignorant friends...and they have no idea what they've bought into. The word "clueless" is really applicable to those people.
I don't feel sorry for the people who've probably wasted a lot of their money. I feel sorry for the wolf hybrids.
Why is the woman in the photograph below smiling?
Because she's an idiot, that's why. She doesn't know any better.
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Many people obtain dogs who because of their breeding are not really suitable as “pets” and then when things don’t work out the dogs pay the price. Pet peeve of mine.
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If I seen a pack like that running around I’d have to protect the neighborhood.
I hunt coyotes a lot the biggest one I’ve shot so far almost 42lbs
A pack of them that size wouldn’t be good. I’d be worried of the kids that play in there yards. Below is that big male I’m taking about.
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DRT (Dead Right There) dogs.
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I've been seeing these three on camera and across my hunt property off and on for months now. Even on game camera urinating directly under a deer feeder.
Animal control told me not to let them limp away.
It's not as easy as you might think on coordinating being there with rifle, in position at the time they pass through. I've already spent many hours sitting in a stand, dog food/scraps placed at 100 yards...
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If they really are wolf hybrids they need to be eliminated/removed before they breed with anything else running around feral.
In Texas the usual solution would be to hunt them down and kill them.
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Ok you knew it was coming, somebody will bring up Wolf Hybrid guns. I can tell you what NOT to use. I was hunting pheasant, quail, and turkey earlier this year in Kansas and a big coyote was running to cross in front of me at about 15 yards. I gave him my left barrel Improved Cylinder 20 gauge with 7-1/2 shot with no effect, I had a perfect sight picture on his shoulder with my right barrel and cut loose with a 3" Magnum #4 shot full choke, and I saw the pellets fluff the fur right behind his shoulder and he twisted his head toward it. He never broke stride and jumped a barb wire fence then hit full speed for 250 yards until he was out of sight. When some people recommend bird shot for home defense guns I have to shake my head.
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They look like beautiful dogs to me with the Alaskan Husky curly tail. I'd be inclined to live-trap them and have animal control make the call if they can be turned into a pet before I shot one.
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We had a high content wolf-dog and I can tell you as a fact that you can't take those hybrids in the pic and make pets out of them. They have reverted back to their baser instincts. To make a pet out of one takes a heck of a lot of time and effort and you have to start at a very early age with them. They are extremely good companions if raised right, but even then it all depends on the individual dog to be able to adjust to living as a good pet; some just can't make the transition from wildness to being a pet. That is part of the problem with these hybrids in that it takes someone to intensely interact with them to make them a good pet. Without the intense interaction, they revert to their primal instincts and are very timid, yet have a very high prey drive. Your average ankle biter punt dog can be an easy meal for a wolf-dog.
As for the dogs in the pic, they look to have some wolf in them to me, as well as some kind of husky type breed.
Here's a pic of the one we had, Kira. She was a bit higher than 75% timber wolf, with some GSD and maybe a little husky in her. Unlike those, she was an ambassador dog for the breed and was well adjusted and didn't go around killing other animals. But there were still situations you just couldn't put her in or she would totally freak out. BTW, she weighed around 105-110 lbs in this pic; a big girl.
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The correct name would be 'gonners", followed by the dumper.
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Any dog can be a bad one..just like people. Mainly it is their upbringing or lack of..
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Yes, and no. Some dogs have predilections bred into them that could cause trouble ( high prey drive, animal aggressiveness, guarding instinct etc.)
Those dogs need special handling by experienced owners. Good breed clubs warn off folks that might be interested in the breed but don't have the experience, or ability, to care for them properly.
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In my ever so humble opinion, the OP's pic is of Siberians...or a variation there of, and that neighborhood panic and social media messaging turned them into wolf hybrids.
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I agree, they look very similar to Siberian or Alaskan Huskies and if they are killing other dogs they should be killed but they are very pretty animals and I would research and separate the rumors from the facts before pulling the trigger. Dogs are killed all the time by coyotes and other dogs and little dogs are carried away by owls or other predators so I'd make sure it was not just somebody heard it from a friend who heard it from another friend that we had "blood thirsty wolf hybrids" loose in the neighborhood.
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In my ever so humble opinion, the OP's pic is of Siberians...or a variation thereof, and that neighborhood panic and social media messaging turned them into wolf hybrids.
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I actually take this whole "report" of Wolf Hybrids loose in Honey Grove, Texas with a grain of salt. "Someone" dumped the animals in an area. Someone else "heard about it". Someone else posted a rant on some sort of social media about it...and we all know what a great source for facts social media is, don't we?
I did an Internet search for this story, and the only mention of it that I found is a link to this thread on this very forum. If anyone else has a valid link to a factual story about this, please post it. No, I don't want to see any horsepucky from Facebook or Twitter or Instagram and so on and so forth.
One sad fact is that breeding and selling Wolf Hybrids seems to be a nice little money making cottage industry in Texas. Not exactly something to brag about. Matter of fact, it's a money-making business nationwide. I've seen ads advertising "show quality" Wolf Hybrid puppies for $1K and up. There isn't any such thing as a "show quality" Wolf Hybrid.
The more I look at it, the more I think this story's just a bunch of hokum that's got a bunch of folks' bowels in an uproar. I feel sorry for any animals involved.
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Well if they’re running in a pack and killing people’s pets who cares if they’re a Great Dane or a Chihuahua.
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I actually take this whole "report" of Wolf Hybrids loose in Honey Grove, Texas with a grain of salt. "Someone" dumped the animals in an area. Someone else "heard about it". Someone else posted a rant on some sort of social media about it...and we all know what a great source for facts social media is, don't we?
I did an Internet search for this story, and the only mention of it that I found is a link to this thread on this very forum. If anyone else has a valid link to a factual story about this, please post it. No, I don't want to see any horsepucky from Facebook or Twitter or Instagram and so on and so forth.
One sad fact is that breeding and selling Wolf Hybrids seems to be a nice little money making cottage industry in Texas. Not exactly something to brag about. Matter of fact, it's a money-making business nationwide. I've seen ads advertising "show quality" Wolf Hybrid puppies for $1K and up. There isn't any such thing as a "show quality" Wolf Hybrid.
The more I look at it, the more I think this story's just a bunch of hokum that's got a bunch of folks' bowels in an uproar. I feel sorry for any animals involved.
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And to top it all off, when you look at the OP's social media screen shot, the only reference to dogs being killed said it wasnt the dogs in the picture! Yea, I agree...the only thing running wild in Honey Grove is imagination.
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Well now, that picture of the "Wolf Hybrids" took out of a car's back window? Shoot, that ain't nuthin'. I took this here picture out the back window of my little Subaru Crosstrek this past Saturday up around Weaverville. Sorry if it's a mite out of focus I was in a hurry and had to twist way around in the driver's seat but I think it's Bigfoot. I believe he'd been goin' through some trash barrels or somethin'.
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Well now, that picture of the "Wolf Hybrids" took out of a car's back window? Shoot, that ain't nuthin'. I took this here picture out the back window of my little Subaru Crosstrek this past Saturday up around Weaverville. Sorry if it's a mite out of focus I was in a hurry and had to twist way around in the driver's seat but I think it's Bigfoot. I believe he'd been goin' through some trash barrels or somethin'.
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I just got off the phone with the Sheriff department <Sheriff is a friend of mine> and they are still roaming the area. They haven't been able to corner them yet. I ask if it was just a rumor and the dispatcher said <No they are still roaming the area.>
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My last dog was a female Wolf/Husky hybrid that was given to my wife when it was 5-6 weeks old. She was beautiful with yellow eyes. Sasha was handled like any other puppy, she was a lap dog until she just got too big. She was one of the smartest dogs I've ever run into, but she definitely retained certain Wolf traits. When she greeted you, she would lick and nibble at the same time, which scared the **** out of some people because she did inadvertently pinch at times. Sasha was very protective of my wife and I, especially me and she was fine around other people when we were present. She was brought into a house with 2 full grown cats with 2 more added later and she was never a threat to any of the cats. One of the male cats would grab her tail, bury his face in it and just roll around with her tail and she would never do anything except take her nose and push him away. Sasha was leash trained and was better on a leash than my full blooded Siberian Husky. Like most Huskies, she was an escape artists and it took a line of pet grade electric fence along the top of the regular fence to keep her in the yard. I had to put spring snap catches on the gates because she learned how to open the gate latches with her nose. When she would get out, there was no catching her, but she would give up the game if I didn't chase her and she would come back to the house and sit at the front door waiting to be let in. With that being said, we got very lucky with her temperment, she was basically hand raised and I have no doubt that if she had been abandoned early on, or abused by someone she would have reverted back to more wild ways or could have easily been aggressive. Wish I had a way to include pictures, but none on this computer.
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It’s been a while but I had a full blooded Siberian husky.
Two different occasions neighbors called DNR on me first time they came out they asked for his paperwork, I told him he was pure blooded Husky. (Showed him the paperwork I had)
DNR said that the neighbors claimed that I had a wolf I asked him if my husky did have wolf in him what would happen he said that if I didn’t have the special permit through the State of Michigan and liability insurance for the hybrid he would have to take him because in Michigan you cannot have a hybred/Wolf Or Wolf as a pet without the State permit and insurance.
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The photos on face book are from this area. The game warden took the first photo then others took photos. The game warren could have shot them but said they were protected. They had killed where they came from and dumped here. Hard to tell a story until the rest happens. The photos taken on face book are around the Gate 2 road at Camp Maxey close to the Red River. This is cattle country and they don't need to breed here.
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T The game warren could have shot them but said they were protected.
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No hybrid Canidae is a protected species in Texas—and I doubt anywhere else in the country for that matter. Only a native, wild Red Wolf would be protected in TX.
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Texas Nongame and Rare Species Program: Federal and State Listed Mammals in Texas
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Sheriff Johnson? How is ol' Mark these days? Wonder if he'll win another term?
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I've been seeing these three on camera and across my hunt property off and on for months now. Even on game camera urinating directly under a deer feeder.
Animal control told me not to let them limp away.
It's not as easy as you might think on coordinating being there with rifle, in position at the time they pass through. I've already spent many hours sitting in a stand, dog food/scraps placed at 100 yards...
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Try a predator call?
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Any breed can “revert” to a wild animal.
The ones that were someone’s pet are dangerous as can be when in a pack. They are full on predator and have no fear of people.
Years ago there was a pack running the area around a mountain community. Not one wolf mix in the bunch when I saw ran into them with a friend.
Fish and Game told us that they all belonged to or once belonged to locals who had just let them run amok.
Not too sure what happened to all of them. I do know there was a shoot on sight order from local authorities. They wanted them gone.
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... they all belonged to or once belonged to locals who had just let them run amok. Not too sure what happened to all of them. ...
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Yes sir.
It's wild dogs by day, coyotes by night. At one time I counted nine different piles of droppings on a 100 yard long dam.
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Today is quiet so for-some gunslinger shot one and one was captured out of 5. I originally posted 4 out of the same litter.They are trying to get them alive. They are not hurting people just other small animals. . I will post when something happens. Everything is hush in the news but should break when they are captured. I am sure they don't need outside help. .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxToday Saturday=nothing exciting and down to 3. Come to find out ONE was the mother and looks like they are staying in the same area probably waiting for the owner that dumped them to return.< BABY GUNN'S >animal rescue is in the area -a non profit origination. THEY MAY GET LUCKY
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Somebody posted this elsewhere today.
I know this thread has been dormant for a bit, but it seemed to fit ...
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Things have been quiet. I am trying to find out what happened to them. I e mailed the person that posted this afternoon but no reply yet.
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