Local post office has been flying the Flag round the clock without illumination.
When I asked the clerk about it the response was several other local post offices were doing it and they were just following suit.
Several years ago at the same facility one particular clerk was too lazy to either put it up or take it down. When I asked about it I was told that it was raining outside, it was cold, or the clerk was busy. The postmaster backed this employee up. I called our Senator’s local office, in a couple of days proper flag etiquette was observed.
With this recent situation, I called the Senator’s office again and got a sympathetic staffer who made phone calls, got back to me, and has determined the situation exists in numerous facilities. She’s going to get in touch with leadership at the post office and ask why this situation exists.
Thanks, Kevin G

Probably the same reasons as before.
Ignorance, laziness and apathy.
Also why they are so far in the red

Thanks for lighting the fire under them!

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Kevin, you deserve an "ATTABOY! for making those calls! ATTABOY!!

So many of today's now working class Americans didn't grow up throughout their school days saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag each morning. We even did it before ballgames and such.

It's a real shame that a whole generation was not taught about the greatness of our country and it's people. On top of that, many school districts don't have all that many American students.

Thanks for bringing the issue to the forefront. You're a good American!

I worked security at a corporate office and part of my, and my partner's, responsibility was to take the flag down every evening (I worked nights). I had never served in the military so my partner taught me how to properly fold the flag.

At least part (a big part) of the reason is that the USPS underwent a reorganization some years back, and part of that reorganization was a new requirement that they must budget for every employee's retirement pay, something no other government entity has to do, let alone private companies (USPS is quasi-govt/private). As you can imagine, that sucks up a lot of their budget.

The rise of the Internet and e-mail is also a huge factor, not to mention competition from common carriers like UPS and FedEx.

A few years ago, I was up at Snoqualmie Falls. The hotel there was flying the US flag, state flag and Canadian flag all at equal heights. I went inside and mentioned to the desk clerk that the US flag must be flown higher. Inside of an hour they corrected their mistake. Of course, I have no idea if they learned from their mistake.

US Flag Code dictates that flags of other nations are to be displayed at the same height as the US Flag during times of peace, but that the US flag is to receive prominence (to the flag's own right) of other flags.

U.S. Flag Code | Military.com

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Here in communist Memphis the main library never flies the flag and has quotes from Marx for you to read as you enter.

This has been an issue now for nearly twenty years.

A Fuss Over Marx in Memphis - The New York Times

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Kevin G - Thank You for sticking up and requiring them to do what is proper to HONOR our flag. Seems strange since, at least here locally, most of the employees are VETS and they would be more respectful of the flag. There are a host of problems within the USPS but the biggest issue seems to be a "don't give a ****" attitude. Same reason, I get other peoples mail at least once a week, same reason I find mail lying in the street from where the letter carrier is too lazy to even close the mailbox doors before driving off. Packages that travel around the country before finally being delivered days/weeks late. Complaining to local post master is an effort in futility and I have never found any contact information for anyone higher up the food chain. Standard answer I always hear is we need more money. Doing what is right doesn't require more money.

The real problem here is how the children are (not) being taught.

It all starts there.

Looking back, while in elementary school, our school principal had a volunteer program that any student could join. The volunteers were taught how to properly handle the flag. They had a schedule, groups of two, to rase and lower the colors daily.

That principle was a D-Day veteran and an excellent motivator.

I'm amazed how many Americans don't have a clue today.

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Around October/November 2001 I lost count of the tattered red, white & blue rags flapping around off of cars.

When I was a youngster, it was an honor to be allowed to raise and lower our Republic's Flag.

It was our duty as young men, to know how to fold and handle our Nation's Flag with honor and respect.

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The local SSA office has a light that illuminates the flag at night. It is not that expensive to attach a solar light that would light up the PO at night.

Solar Flagpole Light | 3 Self-Charging AA Batteries Included

Robot Check

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Last year I attended the Veterans Appreciation Day that was sponsored by District 22 of the Sons of the American Legion for the Department of Pennsylvania. At the close of the festivities, a local BSA troop put on a retired flag disposal ceremony. For the ceremony, the leader of the troop read the part of the U. S. Code that described how to dispose of a retired flag. The flag was then unfurled, and the crowd was asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the retired flag for the last time. After the Pledge of Allegiance, the retired flag was refolded and solemnly taken to the burning barrel for proper disposal. As a would be journalist, I wrote an article about the ceremony and submitted it to our local American Legion post for publication in the Post newsletter.

A little topic drift but still in the vein of respect for OUR flag. Not sure whose idea it was, but on my retirement day, I was ushered outside our post by all the Troops. Two of the young Troopers, I had mentored, were stationed at the post flag pole in full dress uniform. As the post commander called everyone to attention the post flag was retired and then properly folded by MY Troops. Upon presentation of the flag, the post commander advised the flag had been flown over the post for the past 26 days, 1 day for each year I had served at the post. That flag is my most prized possession, not only for what it is, but because they came up with the idea and my Troops knew what it would mean to me. Still brings tears to my eyes when I think about what they did for me.

Hmm... Maybe I misinterpreted things. But then, from the provided reference:

"The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs."

I'm a little puzzled - thought I had it correct.

One has to wonder about the shipping rates charged by the USPS. Their shipping rates are comparable with the shipping rates from UPS and FEDEX. Why are the rates comparable when the common carriers must pay federal taxes on their profits while the USPS is not subject to federal taxes! One would think the USPS would be cheaper than anybody else.

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Used to have a lot of vets, or folks that knew better working at the PO. Now I am not sure where they find their personnel, but I am generally not impressed. That said, the USPS is still better than any other country I’ve lived/worked.

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I was at Home Depot recently and they had a barrel up front by the entrance for worn flags to be disposed of. It was full to running over.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

Note "flags of state or localities or pennants of societies". This does not include the flags of foreign nations (in times of peace).

So, if the US, New Mexico, City of Albuquerque, and Elks Club flags are displayed on staffs, the US flag would be higher and front and center.

If the US, Canadian, and Mexican flags were displayed on staffs, the US would be to to the flag's right (place of prominence), and all three flags would be flown at the same height.

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Thanks for the lesson. Shows I'm never too old to learn something.

In this case it was the US, Washington State and Canadian flags all on separate flagpoles, and at equal height. The US flag was in the center. I asked that they raise the US flag above the State and Canadian flags, leaving it in the center. Was that the proper arrangement?

Almost! Precedence would be US; Canadian; State in that order. US and Canadian would be at the same height. National flags always take precedence over state / local flags.