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Old 05-07-2020, 05:28 PM
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How long a couple more months or one year from now or more.
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For me thus far it has been never. I don't see this changing, since masks are basically useless.

Stay 6' away from people, keep your hands away from your face, and keep your hands clean. You will be fine, unless you have a weakened immune system or other serious health problems, including obesity. If so, forget the mask also, and isolate yourself for the rest of your life as there might never be a vaccine.

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Folks, the mask isnít to protect you - the person wearing it. Itís there to protect ME from you.

Iíd sure appreciate you wearing one.
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It depends on your location and population density. The Japanese have been wearing masks for years.

Iím afraid life wonít get back to normal for quite some time. Fall gun shows and other mass gatherings here in Michigan are already suspect. We probably wonít see life return to pre-virus days until an effective vaccine is developed and readily available.

Iíve lost a friend to covid-19, know several others who were severely ill and recovered and others who tested positive and exhibited only minor symptoms. The accounts of those who were sick convinced me that I want no part of it.
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Iíd sure appreciate you wearing one.
I'll just stay 6' away from you and we'll both be fine. No mask for me, but thanks.
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Minus a resurgence and constant reporting I think we will see fewer and fewer people wearing a mask once Summer is in full swing. Personally, I only put one on when I enter a place and it is required.
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Minus a resurgence and constant reporting I think we will see fewer and fewer people wearing a mask once Summer is in full swing. Personally, I only put one on when I enter a place and it is required.
Same here. I have a nice mask with two canisters from my HazMat Tech days that looks really nifty.
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I havenít worn one yet, and I doubt I ever will.

Iím not sick. I havenít sneezed or coughed in public since this madness started. If youíre worried, stay home or six feet away.
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Most stores around here require one to enter, including the auto parts store I work at part time. I wear one at work because I have to, and we kick anyone without one on out of the store. The 6 foot rule is fine and all, but a lot of the customers don't follow it.

Lost count over the last couple months of how many I have seen coughing into their hand, sneezing, then wiping their noses with their hand, you know, before they hand you their CC or cash. Some sorry *** people out there.

I am in the "high risk" group, and would kind of like to make it to next hunting season...

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I'm in high risk. I turn 70 in a couple of months. Masks and distancing all year, and probably into next, except around tested family and coworkers. It's going to take a while to change from what looks like a new normal to remembered normal.
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So people choose not to wear masks or social distance, just what is supposed to happen to them?
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Some will get sick and recover. Some, a few, will get sick and die. And
people who believe in the merits of mask wearing and social distancing will do their best to avoid them.

I have a contractor friend who flew with his girlfriend to Hawaii and back in late March on a vacation. He is not worried about catching Covid-19, although in my opinion, since he is high risk in terms of his age, he ought to be.

But he wears a mask. He told me he considers it a sign of respect to those among us who do worry about it, and who do believe in wearing masks.
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I have a contractor friend who flew with his girlfriend to Hawaii and back in late March on a vacation. He is not worried about catching Covid-19, although in my opinion, since he is high risk in terms of his age, he ought to be.
Say if your 60 and your girlfriend is 20 does that lower the average age of the pair to 40, thereby taking them out of the high risk category? Or perhaps the 60 year old does kick the bucket, but with a smile on his face?
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No mask for me....I'm out in the fresh air everyday,

I had some kinda upper respiratory infection in December,
but as you can see, I survived it. No worse for wear. In the early
fall I had a pneumonia shot, a flu shot and daily shots of Wild Turkey...

I do feel sorry for folks stuck in town.

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while wearing a mask....it's not doing the job you think it is.

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This was my opinion in another thread: I have read and reflected on this thread. My thoughts turned to my Grandfather who served in WWI, he was wounded by machine gun fire, a gas attack and shrapnel from an ordinance attack that caused problems his whole life, but he did live into his eighties and I was blessed to have that time to love him.

I also think of my Father who served in WW2, survived a plane crash during the War and lived not long enough and died in his 70's.

I have wondered if they were alive today would they be angry, sad or terribly disappointed by people actually being infuriated by being asked to wear a piece of cloth over their faces to protect their fellow citizens? I suspect all three.

We are not being asked to climb out of the trenches and go over the barbed wire in virtual suicide attacks in WWl. We are not being asked to storm the beaches of Normandy or liberate Iwo Jima. We are being asked to wear a mask to protect our fellow citizens. In comparison to our parents and grandparents it sure seems a very minor sacrifice to me, one I will gladly make! I am not a veteran but it is my opportunity to save a few of my fellow citizens if I am infected, an opportunity I gladly accept.
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I do think it makes a very big difference whether one is in a rural environment where people are few and far between, or in a crowded, urban downtown where one needs to dodge fellow pedestrians on the sidewalks.

My own rule is as long as I can keep six feet apart, I don’t wear a mask outside unless I am meeting someone, and I always put on a mask when going into a building — grocery store, liquor store, etc. — other than my home.
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In Manila I am required to wear one anytime I am out of my condo or my office. I get back to the states next week. Will only wear one if/when necessary. I know my FFL requires it in Reno.
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I stopped in a tiny store in a mountain town this afternoon and the few of us lined up were six feet apart and wore masks. Some guy came in behind me and practically stood on my heels and wasnít wearing a mask. After one minute he walked back out of the store. He must have been psychic and picked up on my vibe when I noticed him... (Iím very high risk)
By not wearing one you are sending me a message and I feel the same way about you now. Back off *******!!

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My own rule is as long as I can keep six feet apart, I donít wear a mask outside unless I am meeting someone, and I always put on a mask when going into a building ó grocery store, liquor store, etc. ó other than my home.
I absolutely agree with you. However, a lot of replies make it abundantly clear there are those those who would refuse to wear a mask under any circumstance. I am obviously a product of my training and experience as we all are. As a 35 year Firefighter/Paramedic my opinions are tempered by that experience. I worked through the Aids, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, H1N1 and Anthrax issues and probably more I don't recall. I also frequently responded to a nursing home where many residents suffered from MERS and or C-Diff so I did not hesitate to wear a mask, gloves and gown to protect myself and not bring it back to the station or to my family as I felt it was my obligation.

I went through chemotherapy I often wore a mask and visitors to my home were required to wear a mask before entering to protect me, not them.

This is not an intellectual or political excercise to me, but rather based upon my personal experience and is perhaps why I am so passionate about it.
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From the CDC 10-26-18

CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in the U.S. - STAT

How many of y'all wore masks, social distanced, and couldn't find stuff in the stores in 2018?

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Little back ground: I was drafted in '63, got an all expense paid vacation to SE Asia been "crop dusted" on more than one occasion with agent orange. I too am in the high risk group 77 years old; have COPD which make it almost impossible for me to breathe while wearing a mask.

I feel that I have earned the right to make my own choices when it comes to my quality of life, the wearing of a mask, whether I want to work or not, and I don't feel I should need a piece of paper stating I must be allowed to travel to my job.

I work part time 3 days a week (to keep active, get out of the house, and avoid the boredom of sitting home in front of the boob tube) considered to be essential. Damn it I am an adult, been working and paying taxes since the late 50's, and I don't need big brother to make my choices for me.

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Public shaming would be a good start. This is not about politics, or religion; it is about public health. Since a third or more of infectious carriers of SARS-CoV-2 show and experience no symptoms, wearing a mask in public and social distancing are simply displays of respect for the welfare of everyone around us. Liberty is not license. As Benjamin Franklin famously said, ""we must all hang together or most assuredly we will all hang separately." The Greatest Generation understood this. Why can't this one?

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I keep a gaiter on to pull up in the common areas at work or for a stop and shop during the commute.
Bothers me about as much as the old "No Shirt, No Shoes No Service" signs.
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Those who have stated they have not
and will not wear a mask in public
display an ignorance of the virus
and how it can be transmitted.

But worse they display a disregard
for others and no, standing back
six feet, is not guarantee of safety.
But masks add a layer of protection.

Sadly, as the "lockdown" as it's called
may end in various locales these
very people will guarantee a return
of the virus where it seems, I stress
seems, to have abated.
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Gyms have been allowed to be open here for a couple of weeks but mine stayed closed and finally opened yesterday. The staff wore masks and there were signs and social distancing markers everywhere and every other workout machine was taped off. I don't think any of the customers wore a mask but there were spray bottles everywhere and everyone was constantly spraying and wiping their hands off and wiping the weight machines.
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Public shaming would be a good start. This is not about politics, or religion; it is about public health. Since a third or more of infectious carriers of SARS-CoV-2 show and experience no symptoms, wearing a mask in public and social distancing are simply displays of respect for the welfare of everyone around us. Liberty is not license. As Benjamin Franklin famously said, ""we must all hang together or most assuredly we will all hang separately." The Greatest Generation understood this. Why can't this one?

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When someone else coughs or sneezes around you while out and about ignoring the virus, you will wish that person had a mask on.

The mask prevents droplets from flying through the air, Then everyone can debate how far those drops can spread.

One can not go into a Drs office or Hospital without a mask on.
But clearly all the Drs and Nurses are ignorant on these matters.
Just go with the Herd Immunity theory, some have to die so others can build up immunity. Follow the lead of that Christie guy.
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Mask's are the Victory Gardens of our times. The silly home made contraptions that so many proudly wear do nothing but make the wearer feel good. The typical symbolism over substance, morale booster...like the Victory Gardens. The difference now is that some have adopted a Stasi like attitude towards anyone not wearing one. I wont wear one...but if I ever did it would be this one. Might as well have a little fun annoying people along the way.
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Mind blowing time
I was in the hospital for about four days two weeks ago. In the OR, ICU and regular unit. I was not Covid, not intubated. Not even tested for Covid.
I was the only one in either unit not wearing a mask for my whole stay, now why was that? No tubes in my mouth, nada, except some monitors. The doctors nurses were not in Haz Mat garb, some put their faces within a foot of mine.
Not one of them expressed any fear that I was a threat to their health.
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I was in the hospital for about four days two weeks ago. In the OR, ICU and regular unit. I was not Covid, not intubated. Not even tested for Covid.
I was the only one in either unit not wearing a mask for my whole stay, now why was that? No tubes in my mouth, nada, except some monitors. The doctors nurses were not in Haz Mat garb, some put their faces within a foot of mine.
Not one of them expressed any fear that I was a threat to their health.
Well that certainly brings a new perspective to things! Glad all worked out well!
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Well that certainly brings a new perspective to things! Glad all worked out well!
Thanks Dave. I did not post for sympathy from anyone, I am fine now. but to show the absurdity of some of this.
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I do wear a mask, dont like it, dont like being told to wear it. I hate the fact that this is where we are like it or not.

Yet just before for Easter the wife and I are at a local supermarket. We find our Congressman in the store (he lives just down the street from us), no mask, no distance, no following the lines...

Do as I say, not as I do?

Ignorant?

Knows its fake?

Just doesn't care?

Democratic immunity applies to the virus too?

It did make my wife and I kinda upset!
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It is difficult to address this issue without getting political.

Restrictions that have been imposed are claimed to be relaxed once the curve is "flattened". How does the curve get "flattened " when hospitals are encouraged to inflate the fatality numbers by claiming that all deaths are attributed to COVID19 and that the patient was on a ventilator?

For me, a lot of the information being released doesn't add up to support what is claimed. Because I have been known to be wrong on occasion, I wear a mask when I step out. Honestly, I am going stir crazy, since I get off the property only two of three times a month, because my children and ex are terrified that I might catch the "virus". I actually look forward to chairing the monthly school board meeting!

While I have difficulty swallowing the current line about a "virus" , I can participate in the mask game. I personally feel that there is less deception by wearing a mask than there is behind why we are really wearing masks.
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I'm thinking mask will be a thing until a vaccine for covid-19 is developed.
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I was in the hospital for about four days two weeks ago. In the OR, ICU and regular unit. I was not Covid, not intubated. Not even tested for Covid.
I was the only one in either unit not wearing a mask for my whole stay, now why was that? No tubes in my mouth, nada, except some monitors. The doctors nurses were not in Haz Mat garb, some put their faces within a foot of mine.
Not one of them expressed any fear that I was a threat to their health.
I suspect you passed the temperature test and
probably other tests you might not have even
been fully aware of or understood.

You did not say the purpose of your being in the
hospital. Yet you say all others, and I read that
to mean medical personnel, wore masks.

It does not seem that you are fully aware of
the fact that the medical people daily risk their
lives and quite a few have died.

Do not take your 4-day experience as some kind
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I suspect you passed the temperature test and
probably other tests you might not have even
been fully aware of or understood.

You did not say the purpose of your being in the
hospital. Yet you say all others, and I read that
to mean medical personnel, wore masks.

It does not seem that you are fully aware of
the fact that the medical people daily risk their
lives and quite a few have died.

Do not take your 4-day experience as some kind
of proof about the dangers or lack or dangers
of Covid 19.
I was awake when being checked in, no temp checks.I am fully aware of all the dangers, but thanks for the constant reminders.

I was a career EMT/FF, donít need anyone to remind me of dangers serving the public.

I was there, you werenít.
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This stopped being about the virus, if it ever was, a long time ago. It's morphed into population control, how easily we can be herded and corralled. Nobody, in an official capacity or otherwise, has demonstrated that this virus is any more lethal than H1-N1 or ebola, when the same dire threats regarding piles of bodies didn't materialize, and the country went about it's business. There was another pandemic in 1969, the Hong Kong flu. The country not only stayed open, Woodstock took place right in the middle of it, (True, as Casey Stengal used to say, "You can look it up"). For those of you who still buy into all this, I know there's nothing I can say to change your mind, but be advised, the next time, and there will be a next "crisis," how much more of your freedom will you willingly give up then?
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While there is probably some truth to that, viruses are small but not nearly as small as air molecules. So a mask will pass a lot of air anyway. Some mask is better than none at all. Even if a mask only reduces a persons transmission, it could still prevent someone from contaminating someone else. Like me!
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It is interesting in that Japanese have been wearing face masks for years, as was already pointed out. Looking at the latest numbers from this morning, the death rate in Japan is about 7% where the Death rate in the US is just a touch over 6% from Covid-19. Of course, their population is packed a lot closer that what we are overall. I wear a mask when ever I am going to be around people.

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It is interesting in that Japanese have been wearing face masks for years, as was already pointed out. Looking at the latest numbers from this morning, the death rate in Japan is about 7% where the Death rate in the US is just a touch over 6% from Covid-19. Of course, their population is packed a lot closer that what we are overall. I wear a mask when ever I am going to be around people.
Also Japan is considered to be the oldest country in the world in terms of population age.
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