I see on the news reports, photos of huge crowds
at beaches, boardwalks, bars, usually few masks
in sight.

Tybee Island in Georgia is one site of big
gatherings without social distancing.

In a few weeks, will we start seeing large
spikes of Covid 19, especially among younger
people who flocked to the weekend gatherings?

Memorial Day weekend may indeed become
something to remember. Perhaps it will prove
that social distrancng and masks were nonsense
or not.

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As you say, give it two weeks and we shall see.

Same thing happened in the UK, but worse because there is generally less space. I have extended family who live near a popular seaside resort and there are not happy.

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Philadelphia, 1918 is nothing a sane person wants to replicate.

Philadelphia Threw a WWI Parade That Gave Thousands of Onlookers the Flu
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History

| Smithsonian Magazine

Same with me. My sister lives on the Wirral Peninsula and her comments cannot be repeated here. Dave_n

Tybee Island in Ga, Myrtle Beach in SC and whatever's open in FL.

Regional, I know, but more than enough to find out if the electric fence is on, or, off.

Rob

The Covid 19 spikes are regional and
as pointed out that's the problem.

We'll see just what happens in the next
few weeks.

I'd love to be proven wrong and all will
be well.

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Do you have proof of this?

No, you don’t.

Not even the so called health “experts” know what is going to happen. People NEED social contact for this society to function. That and small businesses are dying and the economy MUST be stimulated. People are just ready to get back to normal and I don’t blame them one bit. The virus is largely over minus a few pockets here and there. Here in Vegas the casinos are opening back up.

Life is good.

The proof comes in a few weeks. I hope it
doesn't. Then we can all be happy and
celebrate your position. Wouldn't that be
wonderful?

Le'ts see. OK?

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Till it ain’t

I’m in the wait and see camp.

if restaurants go bust blame their business model and not the virus for killing them off.

What the tragedy exposes is how dangerous overextended personal debt is.


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I don't believe that a good restaurant business model exists under the current circumstances, other than to a limited extent carry-out food. The business model for bars is even worse, although apparently a few are offering carry-out drinks.

And yet our idiot governor, who was one of the first to shut everything down, is shown at a very crowded Virginia Beach this weekend neither wearing a mask nor adhering to social distancing that he has droned on and on about.

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A longtime friend of mine gets to open his bar this week. We are going to pay him a visit soon. He must separate barstools and chairs to allow for social distancing.

DeWine has undercover rat squads in place to drop in on bars and restaurants to check spacing.

I guarantee that, trained professional that I am, I can't drink a beer through a mask.

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Agreed I was referring to prior to shutdown, tight margin and no reserves doesn’t matter so much what the disruption they’re in trouble.


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It seems to me people are being unbelievably optimistic (to the point of naivete) about what things are going to be like as they "re-open." It isn't going to be like it was before. Not even close.

As an example from just one sector, just take a look at these highlights from the restrictions related to eating establishments:

Restaurants must “provide disposable menus to guests and
make menus available digitally so that customers can view on a
personal electronic device, if possible. If disposable menus cannot be provided, properly disinfect menus before and after customer use.”

Restaurants must also “discontinue pre-setting tables with napkins, cutlery, glassware, food ware, etc. These should be supplied individually to customers as needed. Do not leave card stands, flyers, napkin holders, or other items on tables.”

Same goes for condiments: “Suspend use of shared food items such as condiment bottles, salt and pepper shakers, etc. and provide these foods in single serve containers, if possible. Where this is not possible, shared items such as condiment bottles, shakers, etc., should be supplied as needed to customers and disinfected after each use.”
“Takeout containers must be filled by customers and available only upon request.”

And tablecloths might become a thing of the past: “Dirty linens used at dining tables such as tablecloths and napkins should be removed after each customer use and transported from dining areas in sealed bags. Employees should wear gloves when handling dirty linens.”

Restaurants must also “discontinue tableside food preparation and presentation such as food item selection carts and conveyor belts, guacamole preparation, etc.”

And forget grabbing a mint on your way out: “Do not leave out after-meal mints, candies, snacks, or toothpicks for customers. Offer them with the check or provide only on request.”

Brewpubs, breweries, bars, pubs, craft distilleries, and wineries must remain closed if they don’t offer sit-down dining, but they can reopen if they “contract with another vendor to...serve dine-in meals.”

And I'm not even mentioning how people will be required to wait in their car until their table is ready, or that everyone will have to wear masks except while eating, and that there will be Plexiglas dividers all over the place. Doesn't that sound like a terrific night on the town?

I mean, good lord, imagine when that delicious basket of fries is set in front of you. If you're anything like me, you want to grab that big ol' bottle of ketchup and lay down a couple of gallons of the stuff down, ready to rock. But, nope. You'll be handed those teeny little single serving packets, and you'll need to tear them open, one by one. It sounds miserable.

And "sin city" Las Vegas is going to be a hell of a lot more dull, too. Setting aside that all the big buffets and shows will be closed, on the casino floor:

Casino capacity would be cut in half
Gamblers would keep their distance at slot and table games
All dice and gaming surfaces would be cleaned between each use
Halved occupancy limits assigned to each gaming area of the property would be determined by local building and fire codes. Table game limits would include three players per blackjack table, six players per craps table, four players per roulette table, and four players per poker table.

The quantity of known diseases that can affect humans is as high as 30,000, yet this one specific disease is suddenly king of the hill. All the fun stuff you've enjoyed in the past - - - shows, casinos, eating out with friends - - isn't going to be back for a long, long time. Meanwhile, get used to opening up those tiny ketchup packets and trying to place your order through a mask.

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In Westerville Ohio, I had lunch at the Bag of Nails restaurant. The wait staff was masked distanced and attentive. The room had about 1/3 of the tables it used to have. It had maybe 5% of the customers it would have had "PRE Rona".

Ivan

Well, SC has all the proof needed after the Memorial Day weekend.

New infections and deaths are higher than before the lockdown. Looks like the electric fence was ON after all.

Rob

My little corner of the world has failed the test. Lakes resort/vacation/tourist/party destination. Before Memorial Day, 6 cases in the county, this morning 82. Most in the 18-40 age group.

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I don't think you can attribute all the new cases to things being open. More cases are being noted because they are doing more testing.

Test more people get more results.

This does not mean that being in close proximity will not cause transmission.

It does mean that more cases being found does not equal more spread of the virus.

I am sure people are spreading the virus every day without knowing.

I think we will all agree, still have to use your head where you go and what you do and who you are with.

You can thank, in part, those terrorists......... err protestors.

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Go ahead enjoy those beaches and even the re-open Casino's in my state, if you like.

This guy is staying home and enjoying the BBQ in the back yard
and the visits with the PC.

At my age I don't need to go out and rub elbows with strangers.
I can wait 2-3 more months to see how things work out.

At least we have TP now.....................

Isn't Evolution wonderful. Survival of the Fittest, "O" neg blood
type most resistant, survival of the Compliant vs. Non-compliant,
those who get It (understand) vs. those that don't get it.

Sure glad Dakota Territory has been Social Distancing since
November 2, 1889.

Think Safety, be Safe.

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SD social distanc'n since 1889

As of this AM 90 cases. However only 2.5% of those tested were positive. Compares to state average of 5.5% so guess not so bad.

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Yep, the seven day rolling average of percentage positive tests is the number to watch. If that starts to spike, you have a problem.


I was told today that Southern Alabama has it bad right now. The numbers here in Vegas are coming under close scrutiny once again. Watch this space.

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Another number to watch is number of deaths. Not influenced by increase in testing of the populace. Though it is subject to manipulation by those wanting to benefit by either higher numbers (hospitals get paid $$$ if you die because of it) or lower numbers (politics). That something to watch in a week or so.

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I'm in a hotspot, mainly due to a Tyson plant here. We have a total county population of around 30k. About 500 cases and 6 deaths so far. Average is 6 new cases a day. One of my son's co-workers died and it was slow....first the covid, then heart failure and amputation of his legs before he passed. My office started seeing people in the office on June 1. No walk ins. When you come in you mask up. Might be too extreme but one paralegal lives with her elderly mother. I'm the food supply for my parents who are 94 and 86. I don't want them in the local Wal-Mart. We are still taking it seriously and will continue to do so. Other lives depend on our being careful.

...cannot get data from all the spring breakers who, by their ‘reasoning’, contacted the ‘sweet and sour sicken’ and immediately dropped dead.

Be safe...be well.

If anyone wants to read sane scientific information on transfer of Covid-19 infections via airborne transmission (meaning wear your masks folks when out with others), download this paper from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that came out today. The URL is: Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19 | PNAS and you can freely download the paper as a PDF. Do not be "confused" by the Chinese surnames of a number of the authors, they are in the US at reputable university departments and the senior author is well known (with a Spanish surname!), and yes I spent over 24 years at NIH as a senior member of a drug discovery and development department, so I do have just a "slight knowledge of the subject". Dave_n