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"The Revenant" film
Watched "The Revenant" tonight. What a fantastic production; period correct realism, fantastic acting, cinematography, etc. Everything about this film is great. If you've never seen it, you must.
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Another good movie that I purchased and watch often. Heck, even Ruthie likes it.
Superb acting by DiCaprio.
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I loved it. I know there are a lot of historical inaccuracies, but its a movie not a documentary.
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It’s a good story. The thing that bothered me the most about it, aside from the many historical inaccuracies, was the fact that the country they filmed in looks absolutely nothing like the country the real Hugh Glass traversed. I suppose because the story involved “mountain men” it had to be filmed in the mountains. I actually liked the book better, but that is often the case.
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I really enjoyed the The Revenant and have watched multiple times.
Having said that, I think if movie makers would make a movie as true to the book / truth that they would be so much better.
For example, the latest rendition of " The Call of The Wild" - would not recommend watching it. It could have been so good....
But that's just me....
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I didn't enjoy it much, but I am not a Leonardo fanboy. That probably had something to do with it.
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I found it way too dark. I much prefer funny movies.
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Is that the one were Leo got bit by the bear?
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I liked the one in the seventies: "Man in the Wilderness", Richard Harris and John Huston. He tried to climb a tree, but the bear dragged him down.
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I love the bear attack. It’s one of those occasions where CGI manages to pull it off credibly. It’s terrifying.
There was actually no bear or bear footage involved at all, no creative cutting in of a trained bear like they used to do in earlier times. I think a human stuntman served as the template for the bear movements underlying the CGI.
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I love the bear attack. It’s one of those occasions where CGI manages to pull it off credibly. It’s terrifying.
There was actually no bear or bear footage involved at all, no creative cutting in of a trained bear like they used to do in earlier times. I think a human stuntman served as the template for the bear movements underlying the CGI.
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I liked the one in the seventies: "Man in the Wilderness", Richard Harris and John Huston. He tried to climb a tree, but the bear dragged him down.
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I liked both "Revenant" and "Man in the Wilderness". The producers obviously weren't trying to accurately depict Hugh Glass in the book "Lord Grizzly" .
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Yes, the bear scene was amazing. I would've sworn that a real bear was used somehow. It's a great story about the will to survive, even though the true story is quite different.
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Besides Di Caprio, let's not forget
Tom Hardy whom I've come to the
conclusion is always great.
Catch Hardy in "Legend" in which
he portrays both the Kray brothers,
famous British criminals or currently
in "Capone."
Other noted films with Hardy include
"Dunkirk" and "Inception." He has
the ability to literally disappear into
his characters and not realize it's him.
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I liked it except for the fact that they traveled a couple light years from the real story.
Thing it made me appreciate was my shower.
Coulter and Bridger's stories would be make great movies.
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Besides Di Caprio, let's not forget
Tom Hardy whom I've come to the
conclusion is always great.
Catch Hardy in "Legend" in which
he portrays both the Kray brothers,
famous British criminals or currently
in "Capone."
Other noted films with Hardy include
"Dunkirk" and "Inception." He has
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Agree ! Tom Hardy, as John Fitzgerald, is absolutely great in the movie. IMO even better than DiCaprio
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Great film. Even better on the BIG screen
What makes it so "eerie" is that the entire film was shot in natural lighting.
Leo is a pretty darn good actor, all his films from when he was just a young kid, he has a LOT of stuff out there.
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Really liked The Revenant.
My attitude changed a bit towards Leo (I'm sure he was
concerned) when he did the movie with Nicholson...
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Yea. Good movie. Not a lot of dialect, but it kept ya interested.
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DiCaprio was terrific, as was Pitt, in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. (Love that movie!)
I saw The Revenant. My main takeaway is if I ever encounter a grizzly bear, I sure hope I have more than a flintlock in hand.
Can you imagine what it must have been like to encounter one of those beasts in the days before firearms?
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I watched about the first 5 minutes of it and Leo was loading his rifle wrong. Figured if they couldn't get that right there wasn't much point of wasting my time with the rest of it.
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^^^^^Got that right. Very unrealistic IMHO, as I've dumped a canoe in Early May in Canadian waters just after ice out - takes your breath away to say the least, water felt like silk relative to attempting the "swim crawl" toward shore with canoe in tow. Then attempting to find dry wood/pine limbs to start a fire with numb fingers and violent shakes. Ya, a single person in those conditions won't see another sunrise.
His swimming in those waters, without a dry suit, might make a city slicker think it's a possibility, but those river swimming scenes might help purify the gene pool.
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I watched about the first 5 minutes of it and Leo was loading his rifle wrong. Figured if they couldn't get that right there wasn't much point of wasting my time with the rest of it.
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They are really historical docu-dramas?
Or you never watched an entire John Wayne
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I had read the book beforehand and still quickly bought into the movie storyline. It was so captivating and I became so engrossed that I wouldn't have cared if they were using Nerf guns.
I going to watch it again tonight.
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Didn’t enjoy it as much as I’d hoped. I saw it a few years ago when it was new and I think ppl over-hyped it to me before seeing it.
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I liked the movie and will watch it again, but I don't agree with the realism comment. Nobody in any era without serious medical help could have survived what that guy did as long as he did.
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They are really historical docu-dramas?
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How right you are!
I love The Searchers, even though it is clearly stated it is 3 years after the war (1868) and the Duke is toting an SAA and a 92 Winchester. Sometimes you just have to overlook stuff only people like is would notice. I’m sure there are vintage saddle collectors rolling their eyes at evey western they see.
The Searchers is also supposedly based on a true story - the search for Cynthia Ann Parker.
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Yeah, but he couldn't skin grizz.....
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Gentlemen; the Revenant is simply a movie loosely based on the book "Lord Grizzly". It doesn't attempt or pretend to be an historically accurate documentary or biography re; the life of Hugh Glass. Some responses remind me of the uproar in the Catholic Church caused by the book "The DaVinci Code"; the book is a novel and is not an attempt at rewriting history.
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Yes it was by novelist Alan LeMay. Then later he
wrote "The Unforgiven" which also became a
film adaptation.
In "The Unforgiven" the story is reversed and a
Kiowa girl is taken by whites and raised as one
of their own. Her brother, a Kiowa chief, comes
looking for her. Movie starred Audrey Hepburn,
Burt Lancaster and Audie Murphy in one of his
better and mature roles. In it the Kiowa are
dusted with buffalo bone to make them impervious
to bullets. Quite a battle follows.
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^^^^^Got that right. Very unrealistic IMHO, as I've dumped a canoe in Early May in Canadian waters just after ice out - takes your breath away to say the least, water felt like silk relative to attempting the "swim crawl" toward shore with canoe in tow. Then attempting to find dry wood/pine limbs to start a fire with numb fingers and violent shakes. Ya, a single person in those conditions won't see another sunrise.
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I can't help but comment on how unrealistic it is.
Nevertheless, I think it was an enjoyable film.
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I liked the movie. I try not to pick these period pieces apart because movie companies are at least trying to satisfy those of us that like this stuff. The one thing that struck was the lead character spent enough time in immersed in freezing water to kill 12 men of hypothermia.
I still like Charlton Heston in "Mountain Men" even though it appeared like he had his buckskins dry cleaned after every scene.
I really liked "1917" last year for realism.
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Not to get too far away from “The Revenant”, but as far as John Wayne is concerned, there is an even more egregious example than “The Searchers”:
“The Comancheros” is supposedly set in 1843, and there are those SAA’s and Winchesters ...
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It was a good movie, not a PBS documentary! Thank goodness there were no SW revolvers or they would no doubt be the wrong model or dash.
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A very fanciful depiction of an almost unbelievable true story!
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I found it entertaining and enjoyed the scenery. Wasn’t concerned about historical continuity. I remember how disappointed I was watching reruns of cop shows and “Emergency” after becoming a cop and paramedic. I’ve learned to put things into proper respective.
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I read the book and watched the movie. I enjoyed both. The book is fact based, and yes, the movie took liberties. As to some of the things that Mr.Glass, the protagonist, lived through, he must have been one tough guy. As for surviving a dunking in icy waters, I have a friend whose truck went thru the late winter ice on a lake in Canada about 50 yards from shore. He and his companion swam out and found refuge by braking into a local cabin. Still living today.
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I am not aware that any of his films purported to be a portrayal of an actual event other than the Alamo. From what I understand it was pretty well done.
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It’s a good story. The thing that bothered me the most about it, aside from the many historical inaccuracies, was the fact that the country they filmed in looks absolutely nothing like the country the real Hugh Glass traversed. I suppose because the story involved “mountain men” it had to be filmed in the mountains. I actually liked the book better, but that is often the case.
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I used to live in western SD, and I have the same complaint. The initial trek to the Cheyenne River would have been prairie and the occasional creek bed.
On the other hand, once he reached the Cheyenne it would have been steep river bluffs dropping in to a broad, heavily wooded river bottom. All of that was lost (as was Ft. Kiowa itself) in the flooded reservoirs of the Oahe and Big Bend dams.
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Watched "The Revenant" tonight. What a fantastic production; period correct realism, fantastic acting, cinematography, etc. Everything about this film is great. If you've never seen it, you must.
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When it comes to "Westerns" in
particular, don't expect a great
deal of realism or historical
accuracy.
"Heartland" is an example of the
real West. And I doubt many here
or anywhere have seen it.
So back to entertainment where the
Indians throw their lives away in
needless charges or running around
in circles in wagon train attacks
and cowboys spend more time
shooting than tedious ranch work
or cattle drives.
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I'm not a fanatic about critiquing historical inaccuracies, I try to just sit back and enjoy the movie, but I guess I didn't really get in to the Revenant. I didn't know anything about the true story it supposedly followed so if I had known, maybe that would have helped but I still wouldn't watch it again. I admit I'm a little harder to please with a movie than most and I like a comedy or a "feel good" movie more than something with lots of violence and sadness. I guess I'm getting soft in my old age.
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SWCA Member Absent Comrade
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Originally Posted by Farmer17
.... and I like a comedy or a "feel good" movie more than something with lots of violence and sadness. I guess I'm getting soft in my old age.
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Some movies help cheer you up by being happy and funny and taking your mind off the troubles of real life.
Another kind cheers you up by reminding you that your situation could be SO much worse.
“The Revenant” definitely falls into the second category
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05-28-2020, 11:27 AM
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Having a gun don’t make you Dirty Harry or Wyatt Earp, it’s a movie.
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