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I've only owned one manual car in my life. 1973 Mercury Comet with a 200 6 cylinder and 3 on the tree.
However, I made a career out of fixing things that had 3 pedals and as many as 20 forward gears with 4 reverse gears. Some even had multiple sticks. Anybody ever drive a Mack Quadraplex?
After shifting gears all day, it gets old. I'll stick to automatics.
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2006 Chevy Duramax LBZ = 2 pedals, with tune, 14.5 mpg.
Golf Sport Wagon TDI = 3 pedals , stock , 44 mpg.
Guess which gets driven the most.
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46 yrs old and have never driven a manual transmission. Parents always had automatics, friends, relatives etc always had autos. Every vehicle I have ever purchased from Camaro to full size truck had an automatic. If you put a gun to my head and told me to name someone that I know that owns a stick shift, you may as well pull the trigger.
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I had my left knee replaced 14 months ago, and of course I wasn't able to drive at all. In truth, it didn't bother me, because I couldn't bend the doggone knee to get in the car on either side anyway! It was nice to be able to drive again...
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I had the 428 Galaxie in 1969 and my left knee was operated on and I had a cast from ankle to hip. It was uncomfortable and annoying but that Galaxie had enough room that I could get in and drive. No long rides but at least I wasn't stuck at home. Larry
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I had my left knee replaced 14 months ago, and of course I wasn't able to drive at all. In truth, it didn't bother me, because I couldn't bend the doggone knee to get in the car on either side anyway! It was nice to be able to drive again...
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I hear you had my left knee replaced end of May last year. Even though my Vette was a auto getting in and out of a regular car is easy compared to a 5'11'' 250# 74 year guy with a bad leg has to do in a sports car
Towards September I could struggle in and out only if the top was down. My wife has a SUV and I have a full size pick up so I could get around sort of OK after the first two months.
Still a bit of a struggle today but put on a heck of a lot more miles on the Vette so far this year than all of last year!
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2006 Chevy Duramax LBZ = 2 pedals, with tune, 14.5 mpg.
Golf Sport Wagon TDI = 3 pedals , stock , 44 mpg.
Guess which gets driven the most.
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Duramax rigs max payload
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Diesel trucks were not designed to be daily drivers. but work trucks. Some guys use them for drivers though.
My daily around town driver is a Polaris Ranger
My road Car is a Lincoln Town car
My camping, working, hauling, pulling rig is a Ford Heavy Duty with a 7.3 diesel
The welding truck I am setting up is an older Ford with a 6.9 diesel and a manual gear box.
Put a slide in overhead camper on your Golf, hook it up to a trailer with a 21 ft jet boat and try driving it around the mountains in Montana.
Shifting.
Ya, I can do it from muscle memory, I can do it and never use the clutch once rolling, work double stick trucks, etc. Don't need to look at the stick or sticks. But, its hard to do and hold onto your coffee or when I was younger some sweetheart.
I had a 68 Camaro SS with a built 350 and a T10 4 speed
I also had a 75 Trans Am with a built 455 and a built Turbo 400.
Chevy small blocks from 55s though 64s then the Camaro, mostly all with real gears, then the Trans Am.
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Three if you count the parking brake.
Officer: "Sir do you know how many feet it would take to stop your vehicle traveling at 100 mph?"
Bad driver: "Yes sir, two. One for the clutch and one for the brake."
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Three if you count the parking brake.
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That is really one bad driver.
All familiar with manual transmissions will know why.
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Half or more of my cars since 1971 have been manuals. I prefer them. My current ride is 2019 Dodge Challenger R/T with a 6 speed manual.
PS: I have 4 pedals if you count the parking brake.
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standard transmission
I learned to drive both standard and automatic. Became a fan of using a clutch and shifting gears. Taught my daughter so well that she STILL owns and drives a standard shift van.
Alas age and infirmity caught up with me. My 17 year old pickup truck has an excellent automatic transmission and various electronic hand controls for 'overdrive', cruise control, ECT, a hand parking break next to the central gear shift lever but only two floor pedals: brake and accelerate.
To this day my left foot sometimes reaches for the non-existent clutch pedal.
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Reminds me of an article I read a while ago about an attempted car theft - the thieves made an attempt to steal it but left without it because they didn't know how to drive it.
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Nahh. It's a very hearty design, that makes every drive a low speed adventure. Check out it's review from the German broadcaster DW.
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I drove one(belonged to a friend) no problem with the gears. But that thing didn't brake worth "you know what" . It was a 1962 model though.
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I drove one(belonged to a friend) no problem with the gears. But that thing didn't brake worth "you know what" . It was a 1962 model though.
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Meh, a small price to pay for a car that comes with a crank start handle. "CONTACT!!"
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Three if you count the parking brake.
Officer: "Sir do you know how many feet it would take to stop your vehicle traveling at 100 mph?"
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Nahh. It's a very hearty design, that makes every drive a low speed adventure. Check out it's review from the German broadcaster DW.
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I learned to drive in my mom's '65 Chevy Impala-6 cylinder and three-on-the-tree. My first car was a '52 Buick with a DynaFlow transmission. I have owned a '66 Chevy C10 with the three-on-the-tree, 2 F150 4x4s ('77 & '78 with 4 speed w/granny low, a '80 big Bronco w/the 4 speed with granny low, a '76 F100 with a three-on-the-tree, a '80 F100 w/ the 4 speed w/ overdrive transmission, a '76 Pinto 4 speed, a Datsun wagon w/ 5 speed, 2 Isuzu Troopers with manual trannys, a '70 Jimmy 4x4 w/ a three-on-the-tree and lastly a '95 Isuzu P/U w/ a 5 speed tranny. I still have the Isuzu P/U, but I'm not driving it at the moment because it doesn't always run. It has about 242K miles on it and I have never had to replace the clutch.
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The Citroen 2CV that a friend loaned us in Paris was the most unique thing on four wheels I've ever driven, and had a shifter that stuck straight out of the dashboard.
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Well that 2CV is certainly lovably quirky. I'd love to have one here to run around town with.
We've had good luck leasing Citroen in the past. Last summer's vacation tour with a C5 Aircross really made us wish they were available to us in the USA.
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They were in the 1960s into I think the early 1970s. No real dealer network, hard to get parts for, and they rusted in the northeast at least.
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Well that 2CV is certainly lovably quirky. I'd love to have one here to run around town with.
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Even my 1947 Cadillac has automatic transmission. The designers were visionaries. They knew drivers be doing important things that would be difficult if a gear shift lever had to be manipulated frequently. Like shaving with a straight razor and fiddling with modern one-way social media devices such as the AM radio.
I actually learned to drive on manual transmission, decades after the Caddy was manufactured. For years, I subscribed to some disadvantages for cars with automatic transmissions, most no longer true:
- they don't accelerate as fast (most accelerate faster, at lower RPMs)
- transmissions don't last as long (habitual clutch riding and popping the clutch cause problems, too)
- no engine braking on downhills.
The only thing I miss about manual is the ability to sustain a higher gear on an uphill. It seems that with auto, downshift occurs long before the engine would start lugging. If I had manual control, I'd still be using the higher gear with lower RPM. Perhaps they're programmed that way for engine longevity or fuel economy.
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For the first time in our married life (42 years), both of our vehicles are automatics. Up until a couple of years ago, both were standard.
As for number of pedals, I think that the 1950 Chevy PU that I had when we were first married had 5, but I am not 100% sure that the light dimmer was a pedal. If so, then dimmer, clutch, brake, accelerator, and starter. I have had other standard vehicles with floor dimmers, and was actually able to depress clutch and move the toe to activate the dimmer. It did take some practice.
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My "new" truck is a 2000 Silverado, small V-8 with Manual transmission, no carpet, crank windows..... had to look all over hell's half acre to find a basic truck already built that didn't have a bunch of stuff that would break over the long haul. Just turned 100K miles last year and not a spot of rust. It's cut firewood and plowed my 1/4 mile driveway for 20 years.
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My "new" truck is a 2000 Silverado, small V-8 with Manual transmission, no carpet, crank windows..... had to look all over hell's half acre to find a basic truck already built that didn't have a bunch of stuff that would break over the long haul. Just turned 100K miles last year and not a spot of rust. It's cut firewood and plowed my 1/4 mile driveway for 20 years.
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I've hauled firewood in all sorts of P/Us, but never had one that cut the wood fer me. How often do you have to sharpen the chain?
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Same here. I don't understand the argument that traffic is a downer with a manual transmission. Shifting becomes semi-autonomous. Muscle memory. It just happens.
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I had to borrow a friend's manual Camry or some other Toyota years ago while my car was being fixed and I had to go all over town and by the end of the day, I wanted to burn that car. I guess I've never driven a stick long enough to get that comfortable with it. It doesn't take long for me to get totally fed up with it. A friend of mine has owned several stick cars over the years and in 2017 bought a 6 speed Challenger Scat Pack. About 2 months into it, he realized how much he hated shifting in the heavy traffic he drove in most days, and his left knee started bugging him, and so he took a bath on it and traded it for an almost identical 8 speed auto car in the same color.
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I had to borrow a friend's manual Camry or some other Toyota years ago while my car was being fixed and I had to go all over town and by the end of the day, I wanted to burn that car. I guess I've never driven a stick long enough to get that comfortable with it. It doesn't take long for me to get totally fed up with it. A friend of mine has owned several stick cars over the years and in 2017 bought a 6 speed Challenger Scat Pack. About 2 months into it, he realized how much he hated shifting in the heavy traffic he drove in most days, and his left knee started bugging him, and so he took a bath on it and traded it for an almost identical 8 speed auto car in the same color.
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At around five I practiced with a two pedal and moved up to a 47 Plymouth at the age of six but only able to shift since my legs were still a little short.
At nine I got to do pedals, steering wheel and stick shift in the "Box style" Willey's Jeep.......
but still no keys !!
My favorite stick was a Plymouth 70 Duster (?) 340, 4 speed Hurst with a 4:11 back end that could be wound up to 140mph, with the air filter lid flipped over for more air, for the carbs.
Now I relax after driving 62 years and let the car drive its self.
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If I trade in a car with a stick shift for a car with an automatic transmission, does that mean I'm shiftless?
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If I trade in a car with a stick shift for a car with an automatic transmission, does that mean I'm shiftless?
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Or if you trade in your car with an automatic for one with a stick shift, does that mean you're shifty?
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