Massive 400% increase in retirements in NYPD, so much so that they had to put a limit on applications. Sad state of affairs in this country. I can sure understand it though.

I don't know about now but there was a time when waves of retirements sometimes, not always, translated into nice gun deals.

I retired May 1, 2018.

Thank God!

And I thought things were starting to get ridiculous back then. LOL

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Death? Smile back...

I retired from full time law enforcement in 2009, still a reserve but don't work much.

I loved every day of the 30 plus full time years I worked. If I had to start today, I would have gone to law school rather than grad school and not gone into law enforcement.

Police are not respected now and not allowed to do their jobs.

My son is about six years in, I hope he can make it.

I had a lawyer tell me today how bad it was for the Raleigh PD to allow the "protesters" to stop cars and accost drivers and not do anything. I explained to him the last time the Raleigh PD took action against a "protestor" the chief called the District Attorney and had the charges dismissed before the ink was dry on the report AND suspended the officers pending internal investigation. The irony is that she did not have to do that as our DA would have dismissed the cases as soon as she found about them. She is known locally as the Dismiss Attorney.

With a chief, mayor and DA who don't support the rank and file officers, there is no reason for an officer, with his time in, not to retire.

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Bill

Our police chief retired today.

I retired the very day I was eligible and never looked back.

To all Leo's....
There are more of us regular Americans who are able, ready and willing to stand with you than there are green hair, man bun neo nazi wannabes in this country.

If I could retire today I probably would, but I’ve got a few more years until I can call it a day. When I started I couldn’t imagine wanting to retire, but I’ve started looking forward to it after the last few years. My old partners used to tell me that when the time came I’d be happy to go, guess the old guys were right again.

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Wheel guns are real guns.

Ahhh, I yearn for times long ago when the Chief was as tough as his officers. Once we had a trial where the defendant was brought from prison to our city. During the trial, defendant pulls out a knife and heads towards the Judge. Court Bailiff, who was about 103 years old, (to me, young LEO, he appeared to be) quick as a snake, whips out his old trusty Mod 10 and shoots the guy before he reaches the Judge. Guy wasn't killed, but was out of service for quite a while. I am an officer on the scene and Chief shows up. As the defendant is being wheeled out to the ambulance, Chief seriously remarks to me "We need to take up a collection and get him (bailiff) a .41". The .41 magnum was our duty weapon at the time.
Anyway, abut 38 years later I retired from police work. Now I just drive around aimlessly, drink coffee, take a few short naps, play on the computer and visit a couple local gun stores.........basically, same as I did when working, just don't wear a uniform now.

Along with the slew of early retirements, the real "problem" will come after the fact.....and has to some extent, already started.

It will be the inevitable and serious issue we will face due to the inability of departments at all levels and sizes to recruit anyone to do this very special and dangerous job. Those who are qualified and capable will look elsewhere.

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Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer

I retired from LE in 2016 and although the good times outweighed the bad, I don't regret it.

My thoughts on the serious retirement situation now going on.

Note I'm not a cop, never was but I knew/know a lot of officers and have had a few LEOs in the family.

With the retirements and the serious problems that is going to cause, I wonder who the new cops will be.

Especially in the bigger cities they will finely figure out hey our off the wall experiments are not working. So to build up the force they will revise the criteria and get in second/ third rate people for the most part. This will consist of lower IQ, lower physical requirements and more people with issues (even possibly a criminal record getting hired). That happened in the wild West.

I hope I'm wrong but at this rate it looks like many PDs in the very near future will make the Keystone Cops look like real life!

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14 S&W Revs none with locks!

When I retired in 2005 I was talking to some younger Deputies about the then current political climate, liability issues and LEO scrutiny! I said that during their careers a major city will have First Responders dressed in suits show up with clipboards and pepper spray!

They laughed!

Clinton and Obama did a lot of damage to the military, with their PC policies and disparagement of traditional values and attitudes. One consequence was an upsurge in people bailing out before 20 years, they found that trying to replace them with recruits rushed through training didn't work.

That "massive 400%" has to be taken
in context of the actual numbers and
the size of the police force.

The information regarding the NYPD
is easily available.

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Ubi Est Mea

Go ahead and defund the police then see what happens. Everybody is an expert. They know more than the cops do.

And after they chase away all the good cops and can’t attract more, they will lower their standards to fill vacant positions. Then what?

And the first time a social worker is shot while responding to a domestic violence call, then what?

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Life Is A Gift. Defend it!

1980s Miami...?

As I write this I have 8 months and 20 days till I'm gone, 182 work days.....but who's counting?

P.S.-If I could financially afford it I'd be gone already.

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Support Israel!

Yes, defund the police-then they'll be quacking about vigilantism, judicial self-help, etc.

The LEOs we know in this area are pleased to be serving in a community where they are valued and welcomed. One of the perks for them working in a smaller community and they admit they would never want to work in a larger city where people seem to be going crazier all the time and as noted with not much support except from each other who are on the force.

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KM
S&WCA 3110 S&WHF 625

That reminds me...

Don't know how accurate this is, or if it still happens, but I remember being told by a CA police officer several years ago that it wasn't unusual for people to join a big city department, like LAPD, work as an officer for a few years, then leave to join a small CA department where they could potentially get hired at a higher rank (a few years experience at a big city dept. being considered the same "value" as several years at a small dept.), have a better work/family life, and not lose any retirement benefits since they were still in CA.

I've not experienced any anti-LEO or "defund the police" rhetoric in our community. In fact, we have had plenty of locals tell us if the riot thugs show up around here the locals will have our backs.

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Another issue that no one is talking about. With that large number officers retiring in such a short period of time, is the solvency of the retirement systems. Many systems are already in financial straights and with officers leaving earlier they will be drawing pensions longer. If the pension system currently provides health care/insurance, that means an even larger expenditure on an already out of control cost benefit. Many retirement systems simply cannot absorb that number of retirements.

I wonder how many police academies are adding courses on "how to look the other way and don't get involved" to their curricula?

The locals on the force here know that we and many of our neighbors would do the same. Wendy is friends with a number with the Sheriff's department that she has known since elementary school. I know one that I have known since the 1980s when he owned a janitorial service and I got to know him, his wife and the staff before he became a Waco TX PD. He was there for 20 plus years before retiring and then went to work with the DA's office and is now a Captain with the Sheriff's department.

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S&WCA 3110 S&WHF 625

Course Title: Officer Survival (revised 2020)

We will have LEO's that will only respond to calls for service only. No proactive policing and, possibly, no chasing bad guys on foot or in cars. They still have families to feed.

When I started in 1972, I had an old veteran tell me" when you get a call you can take your time getting there and make an excellent detailed report for the detectives or you can get there in a hurry and become part of the report".

Me too, on my 50th birthday. I highly recommend it.
Been retired 5.5 years now and don’t miss it, especially the last 4 months.

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my neighbor has been a jailer for the county SO for a number of years and is now going to the law enforcement academy to become a patrol deputy. a good man and i'm sure he will be a benefit to our county.

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ask questions- then shoot!

That's exactly what I did. I went on to spend 2 years in Kosovo as an international police officer, followed by 3 years as a police advisor in Afghanistan.

Then I did 7 plus years as armed security in a Federal office building.

I retired for good 4 years ago and I'm SO GLAD I don't have a job that requires me to wear a badge and gun anymore. Many bad guys don't know the difference between cops and security. Anybody with a badge and a gun screams "COP!" to those who wish to do harm.

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John 3:16
WAR EAGLE!

History repeats.

I guess you just have to survive long enough to see things come around again and then maybe again, again.

I got out of police work in 1978.

I'm retired and enjoying it. Law enforcement always goes through cycles of hero and heel, public and media opinion being fickle as it is.

The one thing I never lost sight of is that the majority of the public supported us as long as we acted as we should. Unfortunately they were often drowned out by the very vocal minority of the citizenry.

IMO the issue that's causing police to leave the job isn't the riots and risk or adverse publicity, most knew they would face violent people in their career. The cause is the politicians (including some chiefs) who are abandoning them.

It's darned demoralizing to realize that you are deliberately held back from protecting people and property. It's demoralizing when you and your fellow officers collect the bumps and bruises to arrest looters and rioters only to have a DA bow to the rule of the mob and drop charges. Or a mayor or police chief restrict your lawful and reasonable force options for the sake of appearances.

And what does the size of the department have to do with the OP and following discussion, besides nothing? The OP and following comments are about a 400% increase in retirements...period, thats it. The size of of NYPD is irrelevant, other than yet another opportunity to instigate argument and the locking of another thread.

I know a young man that recently became a city Police Officer. One of my son's buddies growing up. He told me that even when they are trying to help people, they get contempt and disrespect that they don't deserve. He's a tough kid. I told him to hang in there, that these are strange times and that the vast majority of good people support the Police.

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'Merica!

Sounds like a great place to live.

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Sure you did

My son is 2 months into the NOPD academy. Great timing. I hope he gets the chance to retire someday.

I retired four years ago after 33 years of combined military/FBI service. As the saying goes: I don’t miss the circus, but I sure miss the clowns.

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“What you got, ain’t new.”

I retired 6 days after I was eligible (1985-2013). I can't imagine working under these conditions today. I enjoyed it but I'm happy that it's all behind me now. We live in a tiny rural town of about 300 people in the mountains at 4100' elevation where it's relatively mild heat in summer and we get snow in the winter. We have chickens and pigs and a shooting range here on the property.

Life is peaceful here in retirement, but I have major concerns for where the country is heading today.

I remember having a Count-Down app on my iPhone telling me the days and hours left til I was done. I enjoyed it but wow I was ready to go when it was time. It burns you out bad. I had almost 29 yrs on the books when I retired in late 2013.

I loved the job, probably too much...but it didn't love me. Adjusting to retirement took me a year or so but I've got it down to a science now! God bless to active LEO's.

Or worse use "contractors" to aide and assist departments. When a death turns out wrong and all of a sudden the person charged has "disappeared" to another town and whereabouts unknown, some may start to realize a mistake was made but it will take a while.

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Front sight and squeeze

They are pleading for anybody to sign up. Maybe they'll be up to it, but I don't think that's the object.

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"He was kinda funny lookin'"

Well, hopefully it won't be these guys...

... people will have to depend less on the police and more on themselves to guard against attack. They will use guns. Not all shootings will be deemed 'good' shootings. That will give the gun grabbers more ammunition to 'stop the violence' by disarming the populace.

I don't know of any 'movements' around here to 'defund' the police. In fact I'd 'refund' the police more than they are now. But it is going on all over the country.

I think this is part of a clever plan to get more control by creating 'emergency measures'.

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"He was kinda funny lookin'"

Most of this problem is exclusive to your "sanctuary cities" and will remain so.
Detroit was one of the first major cities to go down the ******* and then was hit with government quotas in hiring. This was back in the 1970's when I worked there. You got hired there and trained well and then after a few years you left for another agency that had a future to it. It's hard to keep good cops in a department that is high risk/low pay.
The idiots that promote defunding the police are their own worse enemies as they will end up staying in these cities which will continue to self destruct.

This.

Police get 'how to be nice' training. Citizens don't. We'll just shoot 'em.

Police protect the perps as much as they protect the citizenry. This isn't going to turn out well for the perps.

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I've still got it made.

not trying to hijack

how does a citizen such as myself show support to our Leo's? I thank them when around them. I was thinking I would call and see if I could provide a meal for a shift???

sincere thanks to those Leo's here!

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Why, more stringent anti-gun laws, of course.
We need to do more to protect our 2A rights, but I'm not sure what to do. At first glance, we pro 2A people need to appear en masse like happened in Virginia last January, but that didn't do much good either. It only delayed the total disaster headed for us here in Virginia later this summer or next January, the so-called "assault-type rifle" ban and magazine size limits.
I've never felt so glum and put-upon by vicious idiots in my life.
Given the police are being hobbled, where to next to be safe at home and out and about?

It isn't much, but if I'm in a restaurant and have some extra cash on me, I'll often quietly give the cashier some cash to cover the bill of any LEO(s) or military member(s) I've seen there. I ask not to be identified to them.

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de minimus non curat lex

In Oklahoma City a recruit out of the academy starts out at about $53K a year which is not bad pay for a 21 year old in a city with one of the lowest costs of living in the nation. The problem is the smaller towns and Sheriffs Offices have terrible pay and they're having big trouble getting officers to fill positions. Even with the pandemic much of the economy is pretty much booming around here and there's much better pay in the private sector, then factor in the hate and media disrespect for the cops and I don't see how they'll hire anybody.

Bit of a stink in my county over council chair killing a proposal to add 14 more deputies. A primary opponent accused him of failing to support the sheriff's department. A friend - actually state solicitor for county - told me he was at the meeting. The chair had pointed out that the sheriff had 6 new deputies authorized, and COULDN'T FILL THE SLOTS. Approving 14 more when they couldn't fill what they already had authorized was just ridiculous. Fortunately, the chair won his primary. I'll be voting for him for state senate in November.

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I've still got it made.

A situation I'd like to see:

Police: "This is 911. Please state your name and service you require."

Caller: "This is Mary Smith and some is breaking into my house."

Police: "According to our records, you are a supporter of the "Defund the Police Movement" and any officers we have who would be able to help you have been defunded and are no longer on the force so you will have to deal with the situation yourself. Have a Nice Day." Click.

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