In the next suburb over, a homeowner heard glass break in his house and found their empty aquarium shattered. A picture on the wall by the aquarium also had a whole in it, and so did the wall. You know where this is going. In their their surveillance camera and recording, the neighbor's teenage son is overheard asking his younger sister to "Get his Glock". She went to get the Glock and apparently lifted the Glock by the trigger and the bullet went through their house into the neighboring homeowners house. The girl was arrested. Fortunately no one was hurt. Just another cautionary example. I have no idea what model Glock, but the recovered bullet looked like 45 ACP. I also do not know the thickness of the wall, but most homes are "Z brick" (brick veneer) with wood frames. The usual local people are in their usual hysteria. This was second in outrage in the neighborhood only to the lady who was upset that the post office truck rolled over the skateboard that her son left in the street in front of the mail box and wanted to know how she could sue. If you have kids keep your guns locked.

My kids grew up "Gun Proof", but when guests we over we scrambled to be sure the guns were under lock and key.

Not only do most people snoop and mess with someone else's possessions, if you see them doing something unsafe they WILL NOT obey a command to stop!

All 4 of my kids survived the dangerous occupation of being a teenager, because they obeyed the rules that were set up to protect them! The parenting guideline in our house was: That which is not forbidden IS permissible! I tried to outlaw only the things that would kill you!

Ivan

My kids got their own guns at age 7. They handled them on the range. When we got home they put them in a locked safe, which was in a locked room. The ammo was locked in a steel locker in the basement.

They would often come home and tell us their buddies wanted to see their guns. They always told them no. (of course I was the only one that had the keys, so moot point....LOL)

They are now respectable adults and have followed the same rules in their houses.

Another case in why I feel Glock is accident prone in average hands..

This. My dad hid them. My brothers and I found them and experimented. Kids will find them. Decades later, comparing notes, some of the guns we found were the same; others were different.

The only real safety on a Glock is tween the ears of the person holding it...if they have a brain in there

I taught my sons (now aged 38 and 34) to shoot when they were pre-schoolers. I still have the Marlin Model 15YN "Little Buckaroo" they used in the back of my safe. They learned the 4 rules of gun safety by heart, and always followed them.

My younger son began his federal law enforcement career at age 23, right out of college. In his second week of training, when they started pistol shooting, he was clearly doing better than his classmates.

One of his instructors asked if he had any shooting experience; he replied that he did. How many years had he been shooting, the instructor wanted to know? "About 19..." was his reply...

He ended up the top shooter in his class...

Grandad always had a rifle under the staircase. We never touched it without permission for fear of hearing those dreaded words...........go out to the yellow bell bush and bring me a switch, LOL

Said it many times, kids will find your stuff, regardless how good you think it's stashed. Early education will remove some, but not all of the temptation. Locked up is the best preventive medicine. In defense of teenagers, I was 19 when the Army issued me an M14. They seemed to be OK with it.

Do you even know for sure that the gun even was a Glock?

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No one younger than mid fifties in my home. in general children have poor impulse control and all the training in the World won't change that.

Research indicates the human brain, specifically the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that processes rational thought, doesn't fully develop until approximately 25 years of age.

Granted, some develop earlier some later but in general a juvenile's world is ruled by their amygdala. That's the part of the brain that tells the kid (against all better judgement and training) that it's OK to sneak out of the house and steal dad's car.

Train the kid but lock up the guns.


Understanding the Teen Brain - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center

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We found my dad's gun and ammo "hidden" in his closet.
Since we weren't allowed in his closet he thought that was good enough.
Naturally we went through his stuff all the time when he was at work.

Since he never shot it he never even noticed that his ammo supply was dwindling over the years.

Obviously, kids of all ages, including retirement age, can mess up or act irresponsibly with a gun.

But just based on several decades around kids, I think in general teenagers are safer than kids in the 5 to 10 age bracket, who have gained enough strength to manipulate the controls of a gun, but often not yet the depth of understanding for irreversible consequences.

I turned 65 in August and thought about how much things have changed. Firearms and storage of firearms is one of those things.

There were no gun safes when I grew up. Long guns were kept on a rifle rack in the hallway, hand guns were kept in a drawer in my dad's chest of drawers. Later on, as a teenager, the long guns were kept in a modified wardrobe and the handguns were kept in the same chest of drawers that was in my bedroom.

Ammunition was kept in my bedroom closet. My Dad had drilled gun safety in to me and only certain friends, with knowledge of firearms and an appreciation for safety, were allowed to view, much less handle any of our firearms. Most of my friends, like me, were raised by dads who were veterans and who were, for the most part, combat veterans.

We grew up hunting, fishing, shooting and during hunting season most of us had our firearms in a case and in the trunk of our cars at school.

I passed along the same lessons to my daughter. When she was born, I bought my first "gun safe," a heavy metal, lockable security cabinet. Only one firearm was kept out of the safe for home protection and it was out of reach from any child without a six foot step ladder.

Things evolved to where I could afford a real gun safe and I bought the best one I could afford with "fire proof" features and still have it today.

My daughter and her husband both like to shoot and he has become a good hunter but, they don't have the shooting experience that I have and never will. I have shot competitively for over forty years and shoot either rifles or handguns at least twice a month. I have reloaded for as long as I have been shooting competitively but, neither my daughter or husband show any interest in that sport and why should they when Dad does it all and provides the ammo? That may soon come to a halt in order to instill another valuable lesson.

The younger generation, probably with the exception of the offspring of our forum members, learn everything they know about firearms on TV or the internet. Unless they have an experienced instructor and mentor, the younger generation will not learn proper appreciation for firearms, much less handling and safety skills.

If your like me, you pass along your knowledge to anyone who asks. You also marvel at how little folks actually know about our sport and firearms in general. How many times have you been asked: "Once I buy a firearm, where to I register it?"

Good luck to us all and especially to the firearms sports that we know and love!

I had two boys and they both were interested in guns. I had a locked gun cabinet initially and then gun safes. The biggest lesson was to show them what a bullet does to a water filled bottle and then explain that our bodies are similar. Their watching the destruction of the water filled bottles was awesome to them and they never forgot it. Showed them, 38 special, .22 hollow point and .410. They were very impressed and were never a problem. Even kept a gun by the bed but they never bothered it. That water bottle show and tell was extremely effective.

My dad (then me when I was 12) was a hunter long before I was a human life. When I was of age old enough to talk and hear/understand words, he taught me to never point a toy gun, let alone a real one in the direction of anything or anyone that you do not want to shoot. I also had access to his guns if I were to go into his bedroom, which was off limits, but I never touched them unless he told me I could. He trusted me, and I believe I earned his trust. I never remember ever firing his K22. The only long guns were his two .22 rifles and the Model 870 16 gauge and his Model 94 "deer gun". Those were the guns I learned to shoot with. No handguns. He did buy me a Marlin 30-30 off my mom's youngest brother when he needed drinking money. Anyhow, I respected what my dad told me, even at my young grade school age. Although I gave my daughter a .22 Heritage revolver when she was 15, but it's locked up with some of my others. She's 19 now and still doesn't touch any of the ones I have stationed in a couple strategic places in the house. I grandkids are here, guns are locked up & out of sight. Some kids just aren't to be trusted, as I was, but the ones that seem to get into firearms are just not raised right. I see it in the news in Pittsburgh and the surrounding areas.

In hindsight, I understand that there may be those who make distinctions as to whether it was a Glock or other variety of handgun because of the safety and trigger pull. Please understand that I was not trying to make any points about Glocks. They are fine guns as far as I am concerned. The teenager was heard asking his sister to get his Glock, what it really is does not matter to me. I do not now, nor in the future, will I care what type of handgun it was. If I cared, I could look at the follow up reports, the point is safety without regard to brand. Have a pleasant day.

I was raised in a home with unsecured guns but was shooting when I was six.

I raised three children in a home with guns. I recognized early on that curiosity is a powerful force in a childs life as is "forbidden fruit". I started my kids shooting when they were six and had a rule. If they wanted to see or handle a gun all they had to do was ask. I would set aside what I was doing and get it out. After a while my daughters stopped asking but my son continued. Years later as adults they each said that they never snuck in to see my guns because they didn't need to.

My circumstances are different now. I've been raising my (17 YOA) grandson for the past 11 years. Up until two years ago the same rules applied. In the past two years however his behavior has changed and he has engaged in criminal conduct. Now my guns are either locked in my safe or under my immediate and direct control and he is no longer allowed any access to or use of firearms.

When was growing up my dad had guns inhis closet, my friends must have had them there too because their families all hunted and unless i could see the guns in a rack they had to be somewhere. But, we did mess not with them. Most of us had seen what guns do at a young age. Hogs being dropped with 22s. Birds dropped in flight. Seeing a deer being shot pretty much shows you it is a serious thing. Lot different than TV I tell you what.

Hey sis, go get my gun wasn't going to happen when I was a kid

I learned we had a gun in the house when I was six. Dad got the Model 36 out and showed it to me. He made it clear I could see and handle it whenever I wanted as long as I asked him, but I was not to touch it when he wasn’t around. I never thought about playing with it, even though I knew where it was hidden. When I was 14 he gave me the Model 28 that he had left with his parents, and the 36 as well when I asked if I could have both. It was a big deal to me to have those guns, and I think Dad knew I wouldn’t do anything careless with them.

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I asked because there are a lot of idiots out there who wouldn't know a Glock from a Jframe. This idiot might have been one of them.

Having said that I agree the brand of gun would have been irrelevant to the outcome unless it was an uncocked SAA

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90% of the black plastic guns that flood our market don't have thumb safety because gun "experts" have convinced the uninformed a safety will slow your draw and fire by a jillionth of a second.

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Unfortunately, it happens. Taught all my kids at age 5 about firearms and shooting with a single shot 22. I've always kept them locked up and never asked one of them to "go get me one". Are accidents preventable? Yes, but they do happen still, we are human after all. If nothing has ever happened to a person as it applies to firearms, reloading, cleaning, etc..., then you are a most fortunate person indeed (not me, I've had my couple of brain farts over the years). I would never boast about such things however, Murphy is still alive and ready to kick someone in the tail.

Where I live if your underage kids get ahold of your firearm and it goes off, regardless if it hurts anyone besides walls and such, you get charged for not having it locked up.

Fortunately, all my kids are out, except one and she's turning 19 next month. I still keep everything locked up, exception of my EDC of course...

I was strict with my kids. No repeaters until they were out of diapers.

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I was in Cub /Boy Scouts . This was the late sixties , and we had the NRA come in and teach us gun safety . I think if more kids were taught that , they wouldn't be so fascinated with them . It's like the forbidden fruit , when you're told you can't have it , it makes you want it more .

They also see them all over tv and in their video games . I think if they were taught safety and what a gun can do , there would be less problems . But when guns are left laying around and kids have no respect for them , that's when there's problems .

My how things have changed. Got my first .22 when I was 12 yo. Used dads a few years before that. Live on a farm in the boonies and could walk miles in most directions and hunt, and did so frequently. Was taught gun safety very early on. There were unlocked shotguns and .22 rifles in the house at all times. Never was an issue.
My son, same story, except we lived in city so his shooting and hunting opportunities were far less.

First gun at 10(M-69 Win)$10. When kids ere growing up had various guns in the house pre gun safe days. We let 'em look but not mess with them unless we were present. Son was 15 and I got the first safe...Not because of him but because of new friends. I did have a small gun shop. Many of the kids from the past bought stuff from me in later years. mainly because they remembered their first shooting experience when I let them shoot some of my firearms. Always got their parent's permission first though. I also taught mostly shotgun shooting to quite a few local ladies... much easier to teach than most men

It’s all a matter of perspective....I taught my Children Gun Safety at an early age...This pic is from 1975...The Pistol was a Crossman single shot BB gun....Target was a cardboard box with newspaper in it...BBs wouldn’t break the cardboard, but that was HIS gun and He NEVER touched any of mine unless I was present...We were always close, and I let my Kids know they could always talk to me about anything, anytime. Family comes first, than the Job.

During College, He joined the Campus P.D and after graduation, transitioned over to the City P.D..... In 2005, He went to a job that didn’t require a Uniform....I felt a lot better with Him off the Street.

A lot of States have enacted Laws in an effort to prevent Minors from accessing firearms w/o a responsible Adult present. There is no substitute for proper instruction/education/safety in handling Firearms.

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I had a single shot .22 rifle when I was only 9 years old. I never did do
anything too dumb. My Dad trained me well.

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My kids are 9 and 6. I have introduced the older one to the four fundamental rules of firearm safety and talked about what to do if he sees a gun in someone's home.

But, he has not yet been allowed to see or touch any of my firearms (for that matter, I haven't actually acknowledged I own any). He's mostly a great kid, but has some behaviors that make me wary about it for now. Also, the fact we don't have good range options around here makes it difficult to train properly.

I used a gallon can of spaghetti sauce to illustrate to my son, at age 8, the potential impact of a bullet down range. It's a very vivid lesson. The reminder to him was that ANYTHING that a gun gets pointed at can end up like that spaghetti sauce can..the other thing was that he could see dad's guns anytime he wanted, as long as dad was the one getting them out of the cabinet. We never had a problem.

Robert

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Ya, some people think that if you teach kids about safe sex they will start having sex

Some think that if you teach them about gun safety they will kill people

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I didn't start shooting at 6, but 7 of 8 of my kids have. I have the same rule as Goldstar: if you want to see it, you only need ask. Else, no "self-service".

The curiosity wears off pretty quick. They do bug me for range trips though. I have no photos of my 9 year old daughter shooting a MP-5, (that's a story in itself ) but here's the 12 year old shooting a 66-4.

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Don't leave Glocks or other similar pistols laying around loaded. A friend's cat ran across his G22 he had laying on a coffee table and the gun discharged with the bullet going through one bed room wall lodging in the opposite wall of the bed room. No one was hurt but he had to clean up feces that the cat sprayed across the room when the gun went off.

As for teenagers with guns, I received word just yesterday that my cousin's 17 year old step son committed suicide with his real Dad's gun. The kid had been depressed for months. Mental illness is another reason to keep guns secured.

Damn charlie, I'm so sorry to hear this, I hope someday we can stop this scourge, 17 should be the start of something great not this, take care my friend.

I had a colleague at work, a gun guy, whose 16 YO son committed suicide with one of his handguns. Lock ‘em up.

Youngster's can absorb knowledge quickly at a early age. Proper firearms training when young lasts a lifetime.

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