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I'm a glass half empty kind of guy. I don't expect the conditions that led many people to buy their first firearm to be resolved "in a few months."
Some may be salivating at the possibility of a fire sale on guns bought by first time owners. I don't think it will happen.
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Agreed.
Prolonged bad times a’ comin’.
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10-20-2020, 09:52 AM
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Fools and their monies are soon to part - I am concerned that these folks are going to hurt themselves or their loved ones if they don't get proper training. Statistically, that will be the outcome.
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Could be a boon for firearms trainers.
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I have a sealed case of Remington and a case of Fiocchi 9mm I bought maybe 8 mos ago for $169. If I sell them for $750 each, $37.50/box is much less than a local shop’s $55/ box. I couldn’t possibly withstand the “strident excoriation” I’d get for “ profiteering” so I’ll just shoot it up as soon as I finish 2007’s cases of Federal purchased before that panic. Joe
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In a few months time, how will you explain......to all those 2020 panic gun buyers...
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It’s a strange world when 41 long colt ammo is easier to get than 38 special.
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Reporting from the front, or the CDNN ad.
The Walther Creed (bottom line Walther 9mm) in the last year or so has gone from $300 down to $280 and bottomed out at $250. It peaked at $600 very briefly, then dropped to $500 and is now down to $400.
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Who rounded up the $ 0.99 to next nearest buck.
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Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER
Panic=sell. No panic=buy.
The perfect gun for these times would be one that fired a 9mm round and does not meet the definition of evil plastic gun. This magical weapon would be able to fire 9mm WITHOUT using moon clips nor would it require easily damaged or lost magazines. It would be as simple and as intuitive to use as a garden variety Model 10,around since the turn of the last century.
"Why it's just an old blue steel six shooter-nothing sinister about that".
Maybe one might turn up in the classifieds-who knows???
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Like for instance...a Model 547?
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Or better yet, a Ruger Blackhawk .357 with a spare 9mm cylinder. You have any .357, .38 Special or 9mm ammo ? One gun to shoot them all and no problem with anything from 148 grain target velocity wadcutters all the way up to maximum power .357's, and no problem feeding any weight 9mm and any type bullet from HP to ball.
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I'm 75 and old fashioned and think that anyone that has a lot of "Black Guns" stocked up should choke on them.
Winchester model 70 , Remington 700 , Savage or Weatherby .............
with WOOD stocks...................
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I have A LOT of the 1st mentioned, and a few of the 2nd mentioned.
I also know the heimlich maneuver.
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Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER
Panic=sell. No panic=buy.
The perfect gun for these times would be one that fired a 9mm round and does not meet the definition of evil plastic gun. This magical weapon would be able to fire 9mm WITHOUT using moon clips nor would it require easily damaged or lost magazines. It would be as simple and as intuitive to use as a garden variety Model 10,around since the turn of the last century.
"Why it's just an old blue steel six shooter-nothing sinister about that".
Maybe one might turn up in the classifieds-who knows???
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I wonder if S&W today started production of the Victory Model again—with the plain finish and fence post stocks—if they would not sell them in the same or greater quantities at WWII? I bet they would. Even better if they could package them with a 100 rounds of plain-Jane ball ammo. I bet the packages would fly off the shelves.
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I wonder if S&W today started production of the Victory Model again—with the plain finish and fence post stocks—if they would not sell them in the same or greater quantities at WWII? I bet they would. Even better if they could package them with a 100 rounds of plain-Jane ball ammo. I bet the packages would fly off the shelves.
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The demand for handguns will still exist in restricted states like California that ban semi-auto firearms. The market will simply shift to owning revolvers driving up demand and sadly prices. Smith & Wesson and Taurus are well positioned in manufacturing capacity to ramp up and meet the demand.
S&W has come out with a shooters survival kit that had a revolver, some other stuff in a hard shell carrying case in the past. I remember my LGS had one for quite a while. The problem I had with it was I didn’t need some of the accessories and was overpriced. I have assembled several such kits containing stuff I would use for less money.
Still I think your idea has merit. I like the idea of a basic kit containing a revolver, 50 rounds of practice and 50 rounds of JHP ammo, ear plugs and cleaning rod and brush in a hard plastic case like they use for the M&P semi-autos marketed at first time gun owners.
Unfortunately for Colt the train has already left the station.
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This is not the general public but people that have a gun or two. I have noticed that they are in “buyers remorse”. They know they can’t sell their mistake and break even. They try to trade for a gun of equal dollar value that there is a market for. These people really make themselves look stupid because they think they invented this scam. I like the ones who operate in reverse. They pick out something cheap and think they will get the difference in cash. I had a guy get snotty this past weekend because I didn’t want to take his gun on trade. I saw him all afternoon, his mission was to get out from under a AR that was supposedly an expensive Franken gun that he had custom built. ARs, plastic pistols and short shotguns are a dime a dozen. Most distributors are sold out. High price in the store, not so much used.
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Personally I am glad to see some people who were on the fence decide to join the ranks of lawful gun owners and accept responsibility for their own safety. I don’t see any reason to assume they won’t responsibly store their firearms and I think we should encourage them to become proficient and safe with their guns and enjoy the shooting sports. People are more likely to support the 2nd amendment at the ballot box when they have a vested interest in protecting their right to lawfully own a gun. Let freedom ring in my book.
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I am not an AR type of person...but a couple of months ago I bought an older A2 style rifle to go with another Bushmaster Varminter I bought quite a few years ago. An unfired one at that but the price was right. A fellow that saw it offered me 800 bucks for it... almost double what I paid. I declined of course. I saw him at an auction a few days ago buy one of these new short carbines for a 1000 bucks and then 500 rds of ammo for a buck twenty a round. I doubt he has ever fired an AR. People ARE panic buying. Now this is Wyoming...so I doubt many here will sell in the same manner in the future. All said even though this is Wyoming ammo of almost any kind is unobtainable. I gave a fellow 10 rds of 30-30 so he can go shoot a deer or two. He only had 6 rds left!!
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Buy what you want, pay what you want, and ignore those that live to criticize. Personally, I think the definition of stupid is what so many are willing to shell out for a smart phone.
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Personally I am glad to see some people who were on the fence decide to join the ranks of lawful gun owners and accept responsibility for their own safety. I don’t see any reason to assume they won’t responsibly store their firearms and I think we should encourage them to become proficient and safe with their guns and enjoy the shooting sports. People are more likely to support the 2nd amendment at the ballot box when they have a vested interest in protecting their right to lawfully own a gun. Let freedom ring in my book.
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...to all those 2020 panic gun buyers who now want to sell that they grossly overpaid for their mass produced polymer gun and you can't give them more than $250 for it. I have visions of lots of grumpy owners throwing these guns in the back of the sock draw (almost none will have a safe) for the gun to be forgotten, found by children (with resulting tragedies) or stolen when the house is burgled.
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Our country has changed much this year and will never go back to pre-2020 days.
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I wonder if S&W today started production of the Victory Model again—with the plain finish and fence post stocks—if they would not sell them in the same or greater quantities at WWII? I bet they would. Even better if they could package them with a 100 rounds of plain-Jane ball ammo. I bet the packages would fly off the shelves.
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Might cut into the sales of their other, more expensive models too much.
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Might cut into the sales of their other, more expensive models too much.
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Ruger apparently thinks that the Wrangler 22 revolver doesn’t hurt the sales of the Single-Six models.
Maybe the key is to make it so ugly folks will like it.
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Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER
Panic=sell. No panic=buy.
The perfect gun for these times would be one that fired a 9mm round and does not meet the definition of evil plastic gun. This magical weapon would be able to fire 9mm WITHOUT using moon clips nor would it require easily damaged or lost magazines. It would be as simple and as intuitive to use as a garden variety Model 10,around since the turn of the last century.
"Why it's just an old blue steel six shooter-nothing sinister about that".
Maybe one might turn up in the classifieds-who knows???
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You talking about a 547? Not gonna find one of those at the local gun shop.
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Buy what you want, pay what you want, and ignore those that live to criticize...........
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^
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Personally I am glad to see some people who were on the fence decide to join the ranks of lawful gun owners and accept responsibility for their own safety. I don’t see any reason to assume they won’t responsibly store their firearms and I think we should encourage them to become proficient and safe with their guns and enjoy the shooting sports. People are more likely to support the 2nd amendment at the ballot box when they have a vested interest in protecting their right to lawfully own a gun. Let freedom ring in my book.
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Yours is similar to other thoughts expressed here welcoming increased gun ownership and thinking that we now have responsible converts. I have somewhat less faith in the human race as a whole, hence my question. The general public has a short memory coupled with large doses of "that doesn't apply/won't happen" to me.
We can but hope I am wrong.
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People buying guns just like they buy generators. They panic buy them and after a while of non use will put them in a yard sale. Same thing will happen with guns. Buying a gun doesn’t make a model citizen.
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"Or better yet, a Ruger Blackhawk .357 with a spare 9mm cylinder. You have any .357, .38 Special or 9mm ammo ? One gun to shoot them all and no problem with anything from 148 grain target velocity wadcutters all the way up to maximum power .357's, and no problem feeding any weight 9mm and any type bullet from HP to ball."
I have that and a Blackhawk 32S&W, 32S&W Long, 32 H&R Magnum with a separate 32-20 cylinder.
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It won't come up because I will no sooner buy a mass produced polymer gun for $250 than I would have for $500. Or whatever they were selling for when they were a commodity prior to the current situation.
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Like Walter I had a long time distain for polymer frame pistols but recently purchase one for the following reasons.
1. 5 rounds of 44 Special might not be adequate if confronted by a large group of "peaceful protesters".
2. The magazines interchange with the NTW Aero Survival carbine I have for home protection.
While neither of these are what I would call pleasing to the eye (I would call them down right ugly) both will give an old man a since of security in this time of unrest.
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