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Old 10-30-2020, 08:59 AM
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Gas for sure. Much easier and faster to change cooking temperature.
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Doesn't matter much now but it was a LOT easier lighting a cigarette off a gas burner than an electric burner.
Being from Louisiana, I was raised with gas cooking electrical a/c and natural gas heat. Try boiling crawfish or cook a jambalaya on an electric burner!
I have a natural gas line run to the shed to hook up my outside burner with.
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My wife is itching for a gas stove and she'll get one when we do our kitchen remodel this winter. Not sure if it's been mentioned but electric burners don't like pans that are even slightly out of flat whereas a gas burner doesn't really care.
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Electric is safer; it never leaks and won't explode.
Unless you get a loose connection or short and then the house burns down.
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Love gas but have electric.
Go figure!
You can tune, throttle that gas.
You are in control!
Electric? Turn the knob and hope for the best.
Prepare for the worse!
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Oct 2019 (before a gas (NG) line was finally run to our rural street):

Propane (expensive!) kitchen stove
Oil heat
Electric hot water heater
Electric dryer

Now:

Kitchen stove converted to gas
New gas furnace
Electric hot water heater only two years old but will be replaced with a gas
one when the time comes.
New gas dryer
New Generac 22KV whole-house generator operates on NG
Honda 6KV back-up generator in case the gas supply is interrupted.

A noticeable decrease in total utility expenses.
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House was all electric except water heater and heater. In the 25 years since we replaced gas heater and gas water heater, installed a gas fireplace, and got a dual stove : gas top and electric oven. Love it
Except
New Gas stoves have a safety valve installed at gas line inlet to stove. If power goes out, the valve closes and no gas goes to the burners. Did not know this until power went out and I could not light gas top. One of the reasons we went with gas stove was because we lose power a lot.
So “NO” light with a match.
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I like gas but have electric. It's not worth changing to me.

I live in Florida and don't need a heater but once and a while I do break out a small oil filled electric to keep the chill off.

As you can see, Every ones needs aren't the same because of location. Some of you northern folks don't have AC's, yikes!

I have both gas and charcoal for outdoor cooking. Gas gets more use because I'm lazy and can use it under the covered screen porch and don't have to worry about rain.
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As someone who cooks a lot, hosts dinners, and enjoys it: GAS ALL THE WAY!

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If they are doing what you describe, what I call gross pulse width modulation (PWM), then it is a rubbish design. PWM done right should work very well, although it has to be done right or there would be all kinds of nasties fed back into the house power.

PWM is the only way to go because ramping the voltage up and down is difficult without some form of adjustable transformer, which are bulky and expensive. If you tried to regulate the current by rheostat the heat you don't want has to be dumped somewhere, and you still use the same amount of energy.

TL;DR, gas regulators are easier and cheaper to make than devices for 220 V AC.
Mom likes those glass top electric stoves, she had one for years. When trying to heat something up at low to medium heat, you could see the burner cycle on and off. Glow red for a few seconds, shut off. Glow red, shut off. It is supposed to be an energy efficient design, for the reason you stated. But a lousy way to heat up a pan.

Then she got an induction stove. Same thing. You can hear it hum when it cycles on, then 'click', it turns off. Repeat.
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Gas above electric for cooking and heating, but I've had two places with wood cook and heat stoves.

Cooking on the wood stoves was the absolute best -- once I taught myself how to regulate the fire (right amount of wood, and fine tuning the inlet air and the damper). Fabulous.

I still heat with wood, but I've taken a step back (or forward) in life and now have an electric cook stove.

Most of my serious cooking gets done on my Traeger smoker.
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We have a propane stove, water heater is propane for heat and electricity to run the exhaust fan, forced hot air furnace is propane with electricity to run the controls and blower motor, clothes drier is propane for heat and electricity to turn the drum.

We live rural and natural gas is not a option. I'm a retired pipefitter and gas does not give me a case of the vapors.

We have a propane whole house stand by generator so I have electric. We can loose power up here from hours to days to weeks. It seems like the worst the weather the more the generator is needed!

To save gas if its a long duration problem like a ice storm that knocks out miles of electric service we can do a lot of cooking with the microwave or the outside propane grill that normally has two tanks that we can hook up if needed

Even most of my electrician friends have gas for most of their appliances for the simple fact its much cheaper to run! Sure baseboard electric heat is cheap to install, but you pay through the nose when you use it.
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I was a natural gas serviceman from 1980 until 2006 when I transferred to measurement. As a measurement tech I also relit a lot of commercial kitchens. I don'e remember seeing more than 1% of commercial kitchens with electric grills, griddles, or fryers. Maybe 15% electric ovens.
Gas is heating when it is on and not when it is off. You can turn your burner down and watch what it is doing. I hate to cook on electric.
Many homes are not piped for gas and many don't have the house piping large enough to add a stove. That is a significant install cost if yours isn't.
Most of the new stoves want electricity to run, but as was mentioned the tops light with a match or lighter. The controls are in front with gas, you're not going to light a sleeve on fire or get hot steam reaching for a knob. Cost of electric is at least double gas in most markets, mine is double the cost of propane. It is a rare occasion that residences use $8 a month in cooking.
Electric stoves clean up easier if that's important.
In 40 years in the gas business I worked 5 explosions. One was meth, one was caused deliberately, two were dig ins and one was pipe failure. I worked a ton of Carbon Monoxide calls, most were bad detectors. I ran 4 top burners and the oven on most stoves and could not get 10 parts per million CO within 6 feet of them. [Osha says you cannot work in an atmosphere of over 35 ppm averaged in an 8 hour work day]. Most carbon comes from flames on cold iron so the longer it runs the less it produces. The utilities I worked averaged about 2 explosions every 3 years. One had its system piped in the 1920's the other in the 1950's.
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Advantage of gas is many. We lost electric power for a week after a major storm, gas was still good to go. With a gas water heater and standing pilot (not electronic ignition), hot water will always be there. Same with gas fireplaces, a standing pilot with a manual override for flame control will provide heat even when the blower isn't powered. And of course having a gas range will keep you fed when an electric one won't.
We've had two different mountain houses, first used propane, the one we're in now on natural gas. The first much more expensive than the second, both worked fine.
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Advantage of gas is many. We lost electric power for a week after a major storm, gas was still good to go. With a gas water heater and standing pilot (not electronic ignition), hot water will always be there. Same with gas fireplaces, a standing pilot with a manual override for flame control will provide heat even when the blower isn't powered. And of course having a gas range will keep you fed when an electric one won't.
We've had two different mountain houses, first used propane, the one we're in now on natural gas. The first 3x the operational cost than the second, both worked fine.
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I grew up with natural gas and kept that as my choice (I do most of the cooking) the first 25 years of marriage. The last 25 years we've opted for electric glass top ranges even though they do limit some cooking options.
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Never had a house blow up on me, nor any of my friends.

Most, the overwhelming majority, of the gas explosions I worked were due to contractor error or illegal hookups.
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There's a reason for the old expression "Now you're cooking with gas".
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No matter the preferred type of fuel for creating heat, the one detail I will avoid at all cost is the the electronic touch controls. They are easier to clean since it is just a flat surface, but they are maddening to use. I'll never buy a stove that doesn't have the old style knobs.
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From what I read here it seems the US has been slow to adopt the electric induction stoves. When I left the UK over 20 years ago they were vastly superior to the old curly ring hobs. I suspect the fickle US consumer objecting to something better being more expensive has a hand in the resistance.

We have a gas stove top but an electric fan oven. The latter is a wonderful piece of gear. It warms up quickly and cooks very evenly.
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Grew up with electric. Nothing but gas for Me. Love cooking for the neighbors when power goes out during storms.
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The only benefit to gas (for me) is heat control. I've had gas and learned how to live with electric. Plus the difference in cost buys a lot of ammo! If I wanted a daily supply of nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide and formaldehyde, I would definitely go with gas.
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My sister lived up in the mountains here and I don't believe there were gas lines run in that area. Her house was all electric. Each room was heated separately or not at all. Utility bill was outrageous in the Winter so the wood stove was frequently used.

Had a home around the corner from me blow up right off the foundation from a faulty furnace. That was about 30yrs ago. Could it happen again? Sure but it's a rare occurrence at least around here.

My house is both gas (water heater and furnace) and electric. I could easily have a gas stove put in but it would be more of a want than a necessity.
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I have used both all my life. I can use either without any problem but with gas, as has been stated, you have more precise control. With gas the heat is consistent. With electric the heat cuts off and goes on to maintain a set point.

The potential for a safety hazard is greater with gas. My first wife lost her eye brows and some hair and had 1st degree burns on her face when out gas oven blew out in her face. I haven't used gas for many years so I'm sure they have improved the safety features by now but back then you had to be very careful.
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Cost seems to be an issue with some people here. Obviously utility rates vary from state to state so one can't argue what works for each of us.

Over time I believe natural gas is the cheaper alternative but it seems the rates for gas and electric seesaw every couple months. Maybe it's because of demand. The demand for electricity is higher in summer months and gas for heating when it's cold.
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Sounds odd. My gas and electric is provided by the same company so there's only one bill each month.

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I won't argue which is safer but...

You can smell gas before it explodes.

If there's a electrical problem you won't know until you smell smoke or see flames.
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But don't you folks put on a jacket when the temperature drops to the mid seventies?
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Living in the country has some advantages, we moved into a place with
an electric cook stove, wife preferred to cook with gas. I went to the
local hardware store and bought about 20 feet of copper pipe and fittings
along with a 110 gal. propane tank from the propane gas co. Plumbed
in everything myself and bingo, gas cook stove. We also have a propane
furnace with a large tank and wood heat with a soap stone wood stove.
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Obviously you cook and Momma has to clean up after??
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Well said. That's why I ditched the gas when I got COPD after lung cancer.
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From what I read here it seems the US has been slow to adopt the electric induction stoves. When I left the UK over 20 years ago they were vastly superior to the old curly ring hobs. I suspect the fickle US consumer objecting to something better being more expensive has a hand in the resistance.

We have a gas stove top but an electric fan oven. The latter is a wonderful piece of gear. It warms up quickly and cooks very evenly.
And we're slow to adopt solar and wind power along with electric cars.

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Fortunately our stove's old and obsolete. The oil's gotta be at a constant temperature for cookin' up a batch of fry bread.
Snubbyfan, I have made an eaten hundreds of pieces of fry bread. Had a concession trailer for 6 seasons and set up at
Indian pow wows across Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas and
sold Indian Tacos and fried bread for hours on end. Also went
to small town events, air shows and local celebrations, it was
good business while it lasted.
Do you have a T shirt that says FBI on the front in large letters
and the small print says fry bread inspector? Those shirts were
popular about 30 years ago.
I miss the business and had to quit eating fry bread due to being
type 2 diabetic. I control the diabetes by diet alone after losing 70 pounds. But a lot of good memories from the pow wow
circuit. Also sold fried meat pies, two 70 pound propane gas
fryers going constantly, made for long hot days but enjoyable.
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For cooking, gas for sure. I have had electric a couple of times in rental apartments, hated it, ruined more food and plastic containers than I care to think about.
I wish I could have kept my Mother's gas stove, at least 50 years old and still in perfect condition. It had a large center burner/griddle. But I would have had to turn my kitchen apart, it was 36 or 40 inches instead of the standard 30.
We moved things around in our kitchen when we started to remodel. Gas stove was next to the refrigerator, and the microwave was above it, so we had them moved to another area in the kitchen, which meant moving some cabinets around. It now looks better and is more convenient.
On another note, we will have the fireplace converted to gas also.
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In OK you can't hardly drill without hitting natural gas. Its very cheap here and used by power plants to generate electricity and we now have enough windmills to power every house in the state but I think that wind generated power is mostly sold to other states. There was a home explosion a few weeks ago just a 1/4 mile from my house and they said the explosion was heard 15 miles away. I saw all the fire trucks, police cars, and ambulances and heard on the news the father woke up and plugged in his coffee maker and then the house exploded. It was stated later that the propane fireplace log lighter had a leak or was left on, and after seeing the film I am totally amazed that anyone survived this.


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Snubbyfan, I have made an eaten hundreds of pieces of fry bread. Had a concession trailer for 6 seasons and set up at
Indian pow wows across Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas and
sold Indian Tacos and fried bread for hours on end. Also went
to small town events, air shows and local celebrations, it was
good business while it lasted.
Do you have a T shirt that says FBI on the front in large letters
and the small print says fry bread inspector? Those shirts were
popular about 30 years ago.
I miss the business and had to quit eating fry bread due to being
type 2 diabetic. I control the diabetes by diet alone after losing 70 pounds. But a lot of good memories from the pow wow
circuit. Also sold fried meat pies, two 70 pound propane gas
fryers going constantly, made for long hot days but enjoyable.
Good job on the weight loss and diabetes control. Staying healthy and fit seems to be the only thing that helps with my motor nerve condition.
We don't have sweet treats very often, maybe once or twice a month. My Birthday's coming up next month and I'm planning on cooking up a batch of fry bread.
I don't have an FBI shirt but I do have one that says this.
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[QUOTE=Farmer17;140947632]In OK you can't hardly drill without hitting natural gas. Its very cheap here and used by power plants to generate electricity and we now have enough windmills to power every house in the state but I think that wind generated power is mostly sold to other states. There was a home explosion a few weeks ago just a 1/4 mile from my house and they said the explosion was heard 15 miles away. I saw all the fire trucks, police cars, and ambulances and heard on the news the father woke up and plugged in his coffee maker and then the house exploded. It was stated later that the propane fireplace log lighter had a leak or was left on, and after seeing the film I am totally amazed that anyone survived this.
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Terrible tragedy but electricity burns down many more structures than gas.
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also electric all the way one utility bill and one tax.
Our local utility company provides both electricity and gas so just one bill no matter what kind of stove you have..
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Our local utility company provides both electricity and gas so just one bill no matter what kind of stove you have.
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Gas, of course. I can't believe there's really any discussion about that.

Our last three houses had electric ranges when we bought them - all three were in rural locations that had no natural gas service. The house we're in now was the worst - not only was the range electric, but it was one of those ceramic cooktop things that make it impossible to regulate the heat. The solution in each case, implemented immediately after closing, was to install propane and either a dual fuel range (gas top, electric ovens) or gas range top with dual electric wall ovens, along with a professional quality 1000 cfm hood. You give up about 10% BTU output with propane, but our current Wolf range top goes up to 20,000 BTU per burner, so that's not an issue. And the cost of propane, if all you do is cook with it, is really inconsequential.

We like to cook and can easily turn out meals that are better than any restaurant - if we had to cook on an electric range I think we'd be eating out a lot more than we do.
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Old methods, and habits are hard to give up. New and improved ones are hard to accept. I admit, cooking with electric, requires the use of more learned, skill, than cooking over an open flame. Cooking over a bonfire, in a pit in the ground, is a well established skill, learned a long time ago. On the other hand, do any of you folks remember of a home being blown to smithereens, due to an electric leak? I have natural gas, and bottle gas readily available, for use in my home, but, refuse to have Natural, or bottle gas inside of it. I reluctantly have, and use butane lighters. I've worked in the electrical, bottle, gas, and natural gas, industries, and profess to know a thing or two about their safety. 'Nuff said.

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If you do get a new range look long at the dual oven style. The top "European style" oven heats faster and cooks most things other than a large roast or turkey. I can stand nest to ours without noticing any heat from it.
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The hot ticket these days is dual fuel. Gas cook top, and an electric convection oven. Many modern electric stoves have various non-metal exposed coil burners. Look into those.
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https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/N...ricalFires.pdf
https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/N...paneFires.ashx
Electrical caused fires beat gas by 10 to one per this report. Page 3 of the second report says "In almost three-quarters (73%) of the natural gas ignitions, the fire was confined to the object of origin." IOW, the fire if started in the furnace, range or fireplace was contained there.
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I've grown up with and still use gas for cooking, heating, and hot water. Very nice to be able to use those when power is out.

Also the heat is faster on the stove to cook and warmer in the winter than electric.
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