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Old Whiskey (Pictures Added)
Canadian Club has released three old whiskeys in their Chronicles series. 41, 42 and 43 years old. I missed the first two but just bought the 43 year old. I am thoroughly enjoying it. I may buy a second bottle to put on the shelf. Now I am going to try to find the first two. Only 2,500 bottles of each were sent to the USA. Considering the age, I think the $330 price is very reasonable.
Pictures are not great. The CC and a Macallan I bought in 2011 for $200, it now sells for between $1,000 & $3,000, if you can find it.
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The problem with $300 a bottle whiskey is it still looks just like Old Crow the next morning.
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Ah yes, one of my favorite past times.....turning good whisky into urine!
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I feel like it's a bit extravagant but I just can't help enjoying the hell out of Jack Danials Sinatra Selectt. At almost $200 a bottle I sip it slowly and on special occasions. A new bottle usually shows up on Father's day from my kids. That said, once in a while I just have to bring one home myself.
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What’s the proof? I drank c club in my late teens. My dad had that big tall bottle with the pump on top.
I had 15 double shots to one beer that my record. I made it home but couldn’t get the key in the door. Mom opened the door. I won’t go any further.....lol
I been wanting to restock my booze locker. I told the misses when death is near I’m going to see god feeling no pain. Lmao.
I’m why waste good booze some 151 rum or white lightening should do it. I have a bottle of homemade white lightening sitting here. I have a family member who brews it.
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You like it, buy it, enjoy it, it's never a waste of money if its something we like, I bought a penn last week, did I need another reel, Bwahahahahahahahaha, ahem, anyway, enjoy and take care.
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$300 a bottle Whiskey is too good for the likes of me I’ll just have to stick to my plain old 12 yr old go to, Johnnie Walker Black Label
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Had this since Christmas 1981, the boss got mad when I was given this and he didn't get one. Not sure why I still have it since iced tea is my strong drink.
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This is what I saw:
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Canadian Club is my go to every day whiskey. Once in a while I'll get the 9 year when I'm in Connecticut.
If someone enjoys $300 whiskey, more power to them.
I myself couldn't enjoy spending that much money on whiskey.
JMHO YMMV
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I have a bottle of Beefeater gin that was in my mother in law's cabinet when I started dating her daughter over 40 years ago. When my MIL died my wife threw it in the garbage but I got it out and now it sits in my cabinet.
I'm not a gin drinker but I just could not throw away a never opened bottle that is that old.
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$300...Ive paid that for Utopias. Nowadays I'm more of a Knob Creek Maple Whiskey drinker..at $30/bottle..
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When I head into the triple digits I get uncomfortable.
No one need approve my bourbon purchases but me.
I bought a store pick single barrel Rebel Yell 10 year old during the Christmas season, finished this past weekend.
I told my wife, "I never imagined that I'd someday spend $69 on anything with a Rebel Yell label."
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When my dad passed away in 1987, I inherited the contents of his whiskey cabinet. I still have some fine bourbon that dates from then, now at least 33 years old - aged by me personally! Since this I.W. Harper bottle was marked as 15 years old to begin with, it's now probably just a bit shy of a half-century in age! I toasted my dad (a Kentucky colonel as am I) with this bottle following his funeral, and am still reluctant to completely finish it. It was his favorite bourbon - and very hard to get now.
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This came out of my MIL's liquor cupboard 30 years ago. The Revenue stamp on it states Spring 1943. I have not tried it.
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This is what I really like these days. I always add a drop or two of this brand of water to it.
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I recently drank an unopened bottle of Scotch I had found at my grandparents house. I dated it to the late 1950's. I then bought a modern bottle of the same brand and discovered much to my dismay that it was actually better tasting than the old stuff.
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How about some of this??
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..... It was his favorite bourbon - and very hard to get now.
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Harper has actually been back in two iterations since 2015, and is widely available. I’ve emptied bottles of both, and while they’re a bit overpriced, quite tasty. I never got to try the old one though, so I can’t compare.
Ironically for a Kentucky bourbon, it is bottled (but not distilled) at the George Dickel bottling line in Tullahoma, Tennessee.
I.W. Harper Bourbon Officially Returns To American Bourbon Land - The Whiskey Wash
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I had this bottle of CC for a very very long time,Still not open.
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I recently drank an unopened bottle of Scotch I had found at my grandparents house. I dated it to the late 1950's. I then bought a modern bottle of the same brand and discovered much to my dismay that it was actually better tasting than the old stuff.
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While the whisky may or may not have been better back then, sealing technology was definitely less advanced, and a less than perfect seal over half a century would lead to oxidization and a noticeable change in the whisky, compared to a “fresh” bottle.
Screwtops always leak air over time, with corks it depends largely on the quality of the cork and it not being allowed to dry out completely, but without being soaked by having a bottle on its side.
Serious collectors cover tops of sealed bottles with an additional paraffin film to prevent any leakage if they are not planning to open a bottle for some years.
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At one time I fell into that category of; I made a lot of money in my life and spent most of it on women and booze, the rest I just wasted!
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Back in my drinking days, I was drinking Haig & Haig Pinch. It cost me $7.00 a bottle, I would buy three for two days liberty. The whiskey drinkers were usually getting Kessler's at $2.55 a half gallon. For me those days are long gone.
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My 2¢ worth.
My outlook on old whiskey comes from my Maternal family, all Swiss emigrants, and my Paternal family, a dukes mixture of Scotch, Irish, PA Dutch, and Native American.
My maternal family, considered, by their friends, and neighbors to possess average wealth, drank any alcoholic beverages available, to them, that they could afford, or brew themselves. They imbibed alcoholic beverages, all day long day long, and yet I never saw one of them inebriated.
My paternal family, showed the effects of alcohol, to a much higher degree. especially my Dad, who could smell the cap of a beer bottle, and become inebriated immediately. Maybe there is some truth in the the old belief, that Natives Americans can't handle their booze. True?
In 2000 my wife and I toured the Kentucky distillery area, with an Airstream RV club. We visited, and sampled the wares of the popular distilleries in the area.
Somewhere on that tour, I was made an honorary Kentucky Col.
On that tour, I acquired a few commemorative bottles of KY Bourbon, one a stone jug of Evan Williams bourbon, a bottle of Makers Mark, that I sealed, and labeled myself, a decorative bottle of Jim Beam, and possibly others that I've forgotten.
A few years ago while moving some of my stored, favored, Booze, I picked up the stone jug of Evan Williams, I noticed that it seemed really light in weight. Upon examination I discovered fine cracks in the bottom of the jug, and all the bourbon had all slowly leaked out, or evaporated, and that, still sealed jug is empty.
In 1944, when I was 13 yrs old, My Dad sent me a small bottle of 50 yr old White Horse Scotch, found, in a old safe in a historical hotel in Athens, OH, that was being renovated. That booze was stored nearly 60yrs, before it was dumped in the trash, by a loved one.
Those were memorable lessons that I learned, about the futility, of hoarding things away for a later day.
While on that tour, I discussed KY booze, with the proprotor of a large booze store in Bardstown KY, and he informed me that the highest grade KY booze is never sold in the USA, but to other Countries, that are willing to pay much higher prices for the best USA booze than USA buyers. True?
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personally, i am a cheap drunk. company functions and they pick up the tab, i like to drink the best they have. if i'm buying, which i hear is to often, i drink cheap rum. never been able to tell the difference in the buzz. no denial, that is why i drink. never caused any problems, family, work or with the law. my wife says i am a functioning alcoholic. what does she know, she doesn't drink at all. krs/kenny
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as a side note...
whisk(e)y does not age in a bottle
a 32 year old bottle of 15 year old scotch is still just 15 year old scotch..
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[QUOTE=robvious;141081568]as a side note...
whisk(e)y does not age in a bottle
a 32 year old bottle of 15 year old scotch is still just 15 year old scotch..[/QUOTE
The same goes for my 10 year old rum in the bottle? Even though I have had it about 20 years......
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as a side note...
whisk(e)y does not age in a bottle
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The same goes for my 10 year old rum in the bottle? Even though I have had it about 20 years......
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Doesn't matter what spirit it is. It's the high alcohol level, in most countries a minimum required 40% ABV/80 proof for real spirits (as opposed to liqueurs and other slop). I can't give you a competent explanation of the chemistry, but stuff that's just fermented, like beer and wine, still has residual sugars and such that can continue changing the liquid in the bottle; distilled spirits, not.
Only the oxidization I mentioned above can change spirits; they just go "flat" in a way, but not quickly. Certain connoisseurs obsess about it and use inert gasses like argon to keep oxygen out of opened bottles, but I've found that as long as you open a bottle only for pouring, an open bottle won't noticeably change for several years.
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The same goes for my 10 year old rum in the bottle? Even though I have had it about 20 years......
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sorry but yes.. once in a bottle spirits are done aging
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And to add one more nerdy thing:
This is why most experts don’t talk about aging, but prefer the term maturation.
You can take whiskey or rum distillate off the still and put it in a sealed stainless steel or glass container for 10 years. It will be 10 years older, but it won’t have aged at all
For spirits, age only matters as the time the spirit spends interacting with the wood, most often oak, of the barrels.
Conventional wisdom says that on older stuff, like scotches over 20 years, the wood is responsible for up to 75% of the character and flavor. The percentage number is a bit random of course. But it’s a lot.
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I worked at the Stizel Weller distillery in the early 90s and acquired a lot of bourbon. I am down to 5 bottles from that time. One of which was distilled in 1975 and aged 10 years. I have one drink left in that bottle and I’m very reluctant to drink it.
When I was working at the distillery I had the opportunity to have a few oz from the first batch distilled after prohabition. Pretty cool.
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While on that tour, I discussed KY booze, with the proprotor of a large booze store in Bardstown KY, and he informed me that the highest grade KY booze is never sold in the USA, but to other Countries, that are willing to pay much higher prices for the best USA booze than USA buyers. True?
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I found that true when trying to buy I.W. Harper in more modern times. It was almost unavailable for years, and the word was that pretty much all of their production went to Japan, as it was highly prized there and they were willing to pay the tab.
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True, but it had nothing to do with quality or the Japanese paying a higher price.
It was simply a corporate decision to allocate the Harper brand to the Asian market.
Harper was and likely still is Bernheim bourbon, meaning it is contract-distilled for Diageo of London, the corporate owner, by Heaven Hill at the New Bernheim distillery in Louisville.
New Bernheim also distills the bourbon for many other brands, Elijah Craig, Evan Williams, Henry McKenna to name a few. They don’t cook a different recipe for every brand. Any differences are in aging, barrel selection, and marketing.
And when the Asian whisky market expanded, Harper was assigned to that market. Same thing happened to Four Roses. As long as Seagrams owned the brand, you could not get it in the US, only in the Far East. Ironically, it took a sale to new Japanese owners to bring Four Roses bourbon back to the US market.
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I recently drank an unopened bottle of Scotch I had found at my grandparents house. I dated it to the late 1950's. I then bought a modern bottle of the same brand and discovered much to my dismay that it was actually better tasting than the old stuff.
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Of course; "aging" stops once the whiskey is taken out of the cask and put into a bottle. After bottling, it just gets older, not better.
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I killed a LOT of CC in my youth.
Health issues forced me to give up alcohol years ago. I never liked wine, beer I can live without, but I sure miss good whiskey.
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You like it, buy it, enjoy it, it's never a waste of money if its something we like, I bought a penn last week, did I need another reel, Bwahahahahahahahaha, ahem, anyway, enjoy and take care.
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What kind of Penn-you can't say something like that and not give details
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True, but it had nothing to do with quality or the Japanese paying a higher price.
It was simply a corporate decision to allocate the Harper brand to the Asian market.
Harper was and likely still is Bernheim bourbon, meaning it is contract-distilled for Diageo of London, the corporate owner, by Heaven Hill at the New Bernheim distillery in Louisville.
New Bernheim also distills the bourbon for many other brands, Elijah Craig, Evan Williams, Henry McKenna to name a few. They don’t cook a different recipe for every brand. Any differences are in aging, barrel selection, and marketing.
And when the Asian whisky market expanded, Harper was assigned to that market. Same thing happened to Four Roses. As long as Seagrams owned the brand, you could not get it in the US, only in the Far East. Ironically, it took a sale to new Japanese owners to bring Four Roses bourbon back to the US market.
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Whiskey's dirty little marketing secrets. Think that's bad do some research into what they do regarding marketiting scotch. That bottle of "Beanobobbin" from the distillery at the headwaters of the Firth of Fry that Whisky spectator gives a 94 rating to may very well turn out to be the overage from the Laphroig distillery contracted out to a bottler in Canada. They are selling the name and snob appeal.
I bought a bottle of Kirklands 22 year old Speyside Single Malt for $60 a while back. Have no idea where it came from as I do not think COSTCO has a distillery but it tastes suspciously like a McCallan.
It is not the sellers fault, the Distillers DEMAND their name be kept out of it.
Buy it cause you like the taste don't buy it for the story behind it. Today more and more that applies to whiskey and whisky. Don't be afraid to experiment!!!
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I have a bottle of Beefeater gin that was in my mother in law's cabinet when I started dating her daughter over 40 years ago. When my MIL died my wife threw it in the garbage but I got it out and now it sits in my cabinet.
I'm not a gin drinker but I just could not throw away a never opened bottle that is that old.
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