Home invasion

[yashua-p]

On FOX: 911 call of home invasion in Virginia. Find it on Fox News. Dispatcher tells woman to tell her husband to put the gun down after BG is shot. BG was still moving. Blood alcohol was 4X legal limit. Sorry I don't have the link.

yashua

[yashua-p]

On FOX: 911 call of home invasion in Virginia. Find it on Fox News. Dispatcher tells woman to tell her husband to put the gun down after BG is shot. BG was still moving. Blood alcohol was 4X legal limit. Sorry I don't have the link.

yashua

[Jack Flash]

Here's the link:

Shooting_was_justified

[44forever]

"Stupid is as stupid does." Forest Gump

And that recommendation was <span class="ev_code_RED">STUPID!!</span>

[jag312]

Bad Guy

[Jack Flash]

"Bad Guy"

[feralmerril]

And here I was thinking big guy! Not really.

[Capt Steve]

I saw this replayed on Fox. (This link didn't work for me?). At one point they are on the phone with 911 and say her husband is going to get his gun. Helloooo....Get the gun first, then call 911! Like they say "Life is timing!"

[Airpark]

This was a while back. O'Reilly on the Factor played the 911 tape and you could hear the three shots in the background as the 911 operator told him to ut the gun down...too little...too late.

Guy was next door neighbor, drunk out of his mnd, at wrong house, key would not work, tried front door, went to back door and was in process of trying to kick it in when he got shot.

I, too, would have disobeyed the 911 operator and shot first and complied later.

The drunk former neighbor learned the hard way.

[nitesite]

Dispatcher: "I want you to tell your husband to put the gun down."



Like hell I would.

[feldspar13]

It happened 4/10/09 heres a better link
http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/201085

[Gutpile Charlie]

Fire the 911 operator. Dumb ***!

When are people ever going to get it right? There needs to be a penalty for getting it wrong. Being stupid is not an excuse.

[n4zov]

The advice from the 911 operator is about par for the course in my experiences with 911. I feel a "911 rant" coming on, so I'll just move on.

[VAPA]

Please refrain from commenting on the 911 operators request to put the gun down, the deputies were approaching the deck as the homeowner shot. This was to protect both the deputies and the homeowner.

[badam0112]

Wow. That guy had to be drunk out of his mind to mistake the neighbors home for his own. The guy paid the ultimate price for being dumb and drunk. I don't blame the home owner for doing what he did. Throwing a chair through a glass door at night is a recipe for disaster.

[Gutpile Charlie]

Originally posted by VAPA:
Please refrain from commenting on the 911 operators request to put the gun down, the deputies were approaching the deck as the homeowner shot. This was to protect both the deputies and the homeowner.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm! This again?

Do you know that for sure...or are you just jacking us around?

How do you know that the police were "on the scene?" I didn't pick that up anywhere. I would put the gun down as the police entered, and I'd be looking for them, however just "put it down"? That's insane.

VAPA, you have to prove yourself here...tough crowd! You can't just go "blow'n smoke" or you'll be found out.

[feralmerril]

Am I going to go by my insticks or listen to some "professional" woman 10 miles away? Edna lose`s!

[Stevens]

I heard the tape on fox radio this afternoon.
If I remember right (and I could have heard wrong) the operator told her to have her husband put the gun down after the wife said her husband had shot the guy.
They read of a list of previous arrests of the dead guy, many for DWI carrying weapons under probation even being drunk while going to a DWI hearing.
Steve

[SIG229fan]

Please refrain from commenting on the 911 operators request to put the gun down,...

Perhaps you didn't listen carefully enough. The 911 operator quite clearly states that, if the intruder had been shot, he was no longer a threat.

Is this the sort of protocol you'd follow if a deranged intruder had broken in to your home?

Didn't think so...

[pps]

This 911 operator was just as idiotic as the one "helping" my neighbor.

Someone tried to steal his car. The 911 operator asked if he had a gun. When he answered yes, she told him he needed to be sure it was put in a secure location. He told her it's in his hand which is as secure of a location as he could find, now send a deputy before I take care of this problem.

[wbraswell]

The 911 operator quite clearly states that, if the intruder had been shot, he was no longer a threat.

How would she know? That kind of depends on where he was shot, doesn't it? I'd say kick him in the head and if he doesn't move, he's probably not a threat anymore.

[nitesite]

Originally posted by VAPA:
Please refrain from commenting on the 911 operators request to put the gun down, the deputies were approaching the deck as the homeowner shot. This was to protect both the deputies and the homeowner.

Your statement is as presumptive as the 911 operators comment that he was not a threat any longer.

[VAPA]

This happened in the area that I live, he shot him in the chest with 2 shots from a double barrel 12 gauge. The 911 operator did just what she was taught.

[perpster]

The intruder was just turning his life around. Ooops. Wrong thread; nevermind.

[Gutpile Charlie]

Originally posted by VAPA:
This happened in the area that I live, he shot him in the chest with 2 shots from a double barrel 12 gauge. The 911 operator did just what she was taught.

__________________________________________________ I don't care what she was taught...just plain bad advice. You don't quit shooting until they quit wiggling...that is unless YOU want to quit wiggling.

I've heard of more than once instance where 911 operators gave faulty information that could have put lives in danger. I understand they try to get information, try to keep people on the phones, try to prevent people from doing something rash...I also am well aware of that fact that the good guy sometimes is not immediately identifiable when the police come upon the scene, however, it is up to the good guy to keep himself alive and he has to do what's necessary even if that does not comply with what the 911 operator is saying.

[nitesite]

If officers were on scene and approaching the rear of the house, they would have radioed that to dispatch. I didn't hear her pass that information along to the homowners. That is protocol, so if she knew officers were at the address but didn't notify the homeowners then she was just wrong.

Are you sure they were in close proximity?

[yashua-p]

If BG is still twitching I am not putting the gun down,

yashua

[Doug M.]

This is getting a lot of discussion on another forum, and apparently the shots are audible on the dispatch tape as the cops key up their mikes to report being on scene. HOWEVER, the 911 operator did not pass that information on the homeowner, and thus was in error.

I went to a burglary in progress call a few days ago (turned out the resident's response probably scared off the possible intruder, or the door alarm's batteries were failing, or something). I did not and would not ask radio to tell some scared 65-ish woman to put away the gun. She knew we were there (she saw me go by, as her house # was hell to read) and it was holstered. It was a judgment call.

That is not at all like this home invasion. It was clear something bad was happening, and anyone who thinks the incident is over simply because the offender has been shot is a fool. It is not sufficiently controlled until the cops have cuffed the offender at a minimum. Big boys' rules, folks - we can yell to each other if need be, relay messages by phone, etc.

[ih8suvz]

"I going to give you my wife, i'm going to get my gun" The way he said that, funny.

[pps]

The advise should have been to make sure the BG was dead before putting the gun down.

[yashua-p]

I prefer a good DRT(Dead Right There) ending. These people should be out of the gene pool.

Yashua

[cmort666]

Originally posted by Gutpile Charlie:
I've heard of more than once instance where 911 operators gave faulty information that could have put lives in danger.

You mean like the Detroit 911 operator who told the woman who'd just been shot by her husband, to put the SHOOTER on the phone?

[Tom Beavert]

The operator should remind the shooter to reload, put the safety on, and watch for LEO to show up.
tb

[yashua-p]

Do the dispatchers instructions carry the force of law? i.e. is it like failing to follow lawful orders of a police officer?

yashua

[straightshooter1]

No! What would make you think that? They are dispatchers, call-takers, etc., no sworn LEOs.

Bob

[badwhale]

FOX news reporting: Bad things happen

Big surprise.

Will

[yashua-p]

SS1, I got the impression that she expected to be obeyed.

yashua

[peyton]

Darwin award of the year!!! The home owner did try to convince him to leave, he should of realized he was at the wrong house or wrong place!