I went into my regular gun shop, they had just received a case of FMJ 9mm. Before I could get there the shop had sold the whole case to one person. I did score (drug term) two boxes 20 round a piece of Cor-Bon in another state (Power Ball). Every body is under stress that is in the business. They can sell every gun they get but with no ammo for them. what the heck is going on?

I went into my regular gun shop, they had just received a case of FMJ 9mm. Before I could get there the shop had sold the whole case to one person. I did score (drug term) two boxes 20 round a piece of Cor-Bon in another state (Power Ball). Every body is under stress that is in the business. They can sell every gun they get but with no ammo for them. what the heck is going on?

I don't know George. It seems to be regional. I mostly shoot 32 longs, can't find 32 mags. Plenty of 22 lrs. Wife can't find 380s. Some stores are packed some are empty. We just call around before we leave the house.

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with a smile.

I was standing behind another guy in line to buy some ammo at the gun shop the other day. I stopped by to get some 357 mags, and it just so happened that the guy checking out in front of me was buying the exact same thing. I watched as he was charged $28 dollars for a box of 20. I thought this was highway robbery, but as I needed them I was gonna pony up the green. It came my turn and he said, that'll be $14.50. I was like, are you sure...you just charged that other guy twice that. He said to me, "ya, but I can smell a democrat as easily as I can smell sausage and biscuits." I payed up, thanked the man, and told him I'd see him again soon. Pardon me for the use of the 'D' word in the lounge.

Where has all the 380 auto ammo gone??
Same with 22lr. Around here, the shelves are striped clean just like when we have a huricane warning. No bottle water, no batteries, bread etc.
Spoke with a sales person at Wally Mart and she said they get ammo everyday but someone will buy it all first thing in the morning. They will not set any limits like 5 boxes per person etc.
Look on line at the big companies, they are out of stock on most everything.
Good thing I reload but am afraid to shoot it for fear of not being able to obtain one of the components. It's really sad to have brass, bullets, powder but no primers or anyone of the four.
I'm selling all my guns at really inflated prices and getting a crossbow.
And the sad thing about it, is we (gun owners) have done it to ourselves! Our new Hope and Change Leader has not actually passed any new requlations to cause this (yet) This is all based on fear, panic, anticipation etc.

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ROTF & LMAO, Gees, Crow, now that there's funny!


Su Amigo,
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.380 has never had the volume following of the 9mm and .45, or even to an extent .38/.357. Sure, it's been around forever, but people would buy their pocket gun and a box of range ammo, make sure the thing worked, load it up with a box of defensive ammo, and set it aside.

Now they're thinking it might be limited ... so they're buying a case of range ammo and a half case of defensive ammo at a time.

Hopefully, eventually, supply will catch up.

George, I'm glad you scored, yet wish to inform you that there are other definitions rated before the drug reference...

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I'm about 80% finished with my late-winter bullet casting. I started doing it about 40 years ago when I couldn't remotely afford factory ammo. I suspect that there is going to be a slight resurgence of casting again now. I can get along without a credit card but I've got to have lead...

.380 is non existant in my part of the country. One of the big reasons is that all of the local shops were peddling Ruger LCPs and Kel Tecs in that caliber to no end. I know talking to a friend of mine who runs a shop, Ruger was giving dealers a free LCP if they bought ten other handguns regardless of caliber or model. No one has any ammo for them though, but the guns are selling fast. Myself, I could find .357 magnum ammo like I used to so I just reload for it now, but the brass is very hard to come by. .223 is gone, 7.62 x 39 is starting to dry up fast, and now I see 7.26 x 54 is getting scarce as a lot of guys are snagging those nagant carbines (had my eye on one myself the other day). Most guys went right to the local Wayyl World and Dicks Sporting goods and took all the 9mm and .45 ACP (Dicks wa giving out rain checks that now they even say cannot be filled until who knows when). Me, I have had no problems finding .45 colt, .44 Special, (brass is tricky so I just trim down .44 Magnum) and .44 Mag brass is still pretty plentiful. .38 Special brass is everywhere, and I have enough .41 Mag brass to last me a while, but am always looking for more. Powder is getting tough depending on what you like. No one here has IMR 4350, Unique is hit and miss, but everyone has Win 231. Large pistol primers are everywhere, small pistol primers are non existant as well. (I buy them as soon as I see them). I think its only going to get worse as people realize how bad it's getting, plus warm weather means more people go to the range and shooting sports start up again on the outdoor ranges.

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OK, I need someone again to explain to me why we should patronize or show preference to the local gun shop. If he'd limited the first buyer to a more reasonable quantity, there might be a box or two left over. But the proprietor did just what Wally World does, he sold the product to the first guy who tendered the cash. Had that happened to me, I'd have been polite (as polite as I could muster), thanked the gentleman behind the counter, and muttered that I needed to check out WalMart on my way home. Then I'd have done it.

Just like employers in America have mostly stopped showing any loyalty to their employees, the employees need to look out for their own best interests. In the OPs drama, the gun shop simply engaged in free enterprise. The customer should do the same, except next cycle, he probably should stop at WalMart on the way.

For me, the ammo thing is just fun to watch and be a part of. I really don't think I'll be in a position to run out or even run low. Those suggesting prices will fall and those of us with a tiny stockpile (define tiny) will be sorry are probably in for a rude awakening.

What we saw at the gunshow 2 weekends ago was interesting. Gunshops with stale ammo supplies were dumping it. They were taking profits or at least liquidating what I consider enormous supplies of it. One seller not far from our table had a lot of it in boxes. My table pardner was in a buying mood. We both bought a bunch of antique or collectable ammo (SuperVel.)

I'm guessing someone just dumped the back room or bought out an estate. Prices were reasonable compared to what new stocks of ammo would be priced.

What amused me the most is I've been buying moldy old boxes of other peoples ammo for a few years now. The prices haven't really increased that much on old stocks of ammo.

Maybe you guys will get lucky some day and I'll die. Then you can pester my widow for anything the boys haven't stolen.

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So just what is a "<span class="ev_code_RED">more reasonable quantity</span>" one box or one round, a box of 20 or a box of 50 or a carton of 500 or ???

You've already stated you've got all you want "<span class="ev_code_BLUE">...I really don't think I'll be in a position to run out or even run low...</span>" so now the Shop Owner is supposed to begin "rationing" his sales of ammo. Last time I looks this Country still worked on the Free Enterprise system of doing business and part of that means that a Shop Owner is free to do business anyway he likes and to sell as much ammo as he want to anyone he wants.

I think NOT!!!

In the not so distant past, say about a year ago when the time shift came and it was light out longer, I used to go to the range after work.
I would throw my range bag and a pistol or two in the car in the morning. After work I would stop by the Wally Mart to grab some ammo. I never even thought of it not being there. Pick up a value pack of WWB 9mm or even one of the 250 boxes of Winchester in 9 or 40. It was maybe $7-9 box of 50. Even Blazer Brass in 45ACP.

Get to the range and shoot at least 100 rds or more, have a great time as noone was there around 5:30 to 6pm. Forget about work, drive home in a good mood, greet the wife and dog (not in that order ) Change clothes and all was well.

In less than a year, those days are gone.

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And, one Presidential Election; lets not forget that little item on recent History! He promised Change and we're getting it!!! In Spades!

Well, never cared a lot for the .380, but I have a Colt Mustang I got years ago and I won't have a gun without the ability to load for it. So being an inveterate brass scrounger I've kept an eye to the ground for years. Where I shoot, several times a year I've managed to find an area on the ranges where someone brought their BUG or new purse toy and proceeded to wring it out with a couple of boxes of factory ammo. Few people that reload even load .380's, so I always snatched up all that once fired brass. I think I may have bought "a" box of .380's several years ago, but the dies paid for themselves the first 100 rounds I loaded of all that lovely free brass someone is now wishing they had picked up . . . .

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The point I was trying to make is the gunshop owner made his decision to sell all he got to one preferred customer. His right. So then he no longer occupies the high moral ground when someone says "support your local gunshop." They can say it, but friendship and customer loyalty are a two way street. When he makes his decision, the customer is free to make his.

I'd even cut him some slack and suggest the OP, the customer here, should have maybe asked him if he'd give him a phone call next time some comes in, so he can buy some. Of course that probably won't happen. But when the shop owner padlocks the door due to no business, he needs to look to his one good customer for support, not the other customers.

The term reasonable is open to definition. I'd define it as limiting customers to less than my total shipment. He doesn't have to do that, but he can. If it makes the one guy who wants it all mad, so be it.

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Enjoy the free market while it lasts boys. So I hear you complaining about selling the entire case to one person . . . What if the shop owner doubled his prices on that case? Would you be screaming price gouging? What if by doubling the cost of the ammo, that person only bought half the case? Problem solved?

It's the same as a hurricane. When you allow government to set the cost of an item below it's demand price, then you will get people hoarding that item and buyin everyone they can get their hands on . . .

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Doesn't make any sense to me; are you saying he should have kept one box out of the case for the next guy or only sold the 1st guy one box and kept the rest of the case for the next guy???

The Shop owner is in business to make money and feed his family too. So, if he does what you're suggesting then he makes an enemy of a long time customer - lose, lose for the shop owner. I noticed the OP didn't make any comment about asking the owner of "...my regular gun shop..." to put him on his list either before or after this happened. Maybe if he had taken the trouble to do this the Shop Owner might have been more than willing to split the case. I know I would have and I suspect most Owners would too.

We like Happy Customers but we also aren't going to start "rationing" just because!!! What's next on your Agenda??? I suppose you think the Wholesale Houses should start "rationing" how much ammo I can buy or how many guns I can purchase. Is that right??? Then I'm guessing you'll want the Distributors to do the same things. Only so many boxes to any one Wholesaler - is that your idea??? Then I guess the Factories will come next and then the people who supply the Factories with their raw materials - RIGHT??? Only so many rolls of brass will be allowed to Federal, Winchester and all the rest to make cases out of. And, lets not forget the lead suppliers because we certainly can't be having them sell all there lead to a single Factory!!!

You "ration" you and I'll "ration" me because "you" haven't got any Right to tell me or anyone else how to run their own business!!!

The point of being in business is to keep your regular customers coming back. If you make one regular happy and leave 9 regulars unhappy, that's not going to be good for business in the long run.

I purchase my ammo on-line for greater selection & price through MidwayUSA & Cheaper than Dirt. I placed my "quarterly" order last week with Midway and they were out of stock on most of my favorite range & CCW cartridges...had many substitutions! I doubled my order with backup supplier, Cheaper than Dirt. Guess this parallels what is happening to CCW handguns & AR15's...super tight availability.

S&W reported 3rd quarter earnings last week and their "current" backorders are $123 million versus $22 million 3 months ago. The $123 million backorders do not include the 2009 new items shipping later this year. Their new "22" version of the M&P15 will be in super HOT!!

So, what's you idea. One box, two boxes???

If it were me, I'd sell two boxes to each customer, explaining why, and try to order more if I could. At least this way, several people could have something to shoot for the week.

Small businesses need to be as accomodating to their customer base as possible. It's the personal service that sets them apart from the Big Box Stores.

So you figure this Gun Shop owner is supposed to sit there with a case of ammo on his shelf and tell his customer that they can't buy more than one or two boxes of ammo because they need to share???

I suppose that the Gas stations need to start only letting you buy two gallons of gas at a time, too. And the Grocery stores need to only sell you two eggs because that is your share!!!

It's clear that neither you nor Dick have ever been in business before. You both want to force a store owner to do something that goes against the basics of Free Enterprise!!!

If I have a Customer and he wants all of anything I have to sell, and can pay the price, well, I'm going to sell it to him.

I don't have any plans on becoming a Democrat or a Socialist for you or anybody else!!!

It's gonna be ok KKG. Government education has had the last 100 years to mislead people about the "evils" of capitalism. It's gonna take time to reeducate them . . . one person at a time.

If Perdue had allowed gas stations to charge whatever they wanted for a price of gas in Atlanta last summer, we would not have had more than a week of gas shortages. Instead we had the better part of 3 to 4 weeks of gasoline lines.

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I'm beginning to wonder if there is a real shortage of ammunition or just a shortage at the prices people want to pay. The local Dick's Sporting Goods has a good supply of all common calibers, and my local sporting goods dealer does not seem to have a problem getting ammunition either. However, I do not see any cheap military surplus ammunition around or even available online.

I think the case of Dick's is just gun owners being lazy . . . they don't want to have to lug two cases of 9mm down two escalators, across the first floor and out in to the parking lot . . .

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I've never owned or worked in a gun store but I did spend some time working in retail sales management. I understand what you're saying Mike but I think there could be some merit to placing some kind of limit, per person, on items with limited availability if only to get more customers into my store. 1 customer buying 9 boxes of ammo = 1 happy customer likely (hopefully) to return. 9 customers buying 1 box each = 9 customers likely to return. If you don't get them into the store you can't sell them your other merchandise.

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not only in short supply, but getting higher priced too- i find i shoot a ;lot more 22 now-

I think both Dick and Barb have made very valid points. Your 'point of view' kkg, is more from a walmart standpoint. There is a difference between small business and big business. When you have a small business, like many gun shops, you have to have things to sell people who come to your store, and give them quality service or next time they will go somewhere else. There are too many options out there these days for people to be stuck with the closest store...as Dick pointed out, there is always a walmart close by.

This owner clearly has difficulty getting ammo, specifically to this thread 9mm, did he make his money...yes...what about everyone coming to him for the same thing. Maybe you wouldn't put a minimum on something that you 'might' sell...but these days if you have ammo, it's gonna sell.

Walmart doesn't care who buys their stuff, but people who run small businesses rely on creating good relationships with people. I don't think anyone was trying to convert 'you' into being a socialist..I don't recall anyone referencing you at all, wallstreet.

spearcrow again!

A small business gun shop owner should have his finger on the pulse of local demand. His livelihood depends on getting cases of ammo to all his customers who want them. By now he should have ordered massive quantities of ammo, and added additional brands to make up for shortages of the usual brands and types. Some stores are doing it right and can at least offer something to fulfill customer needs. Others are ordering by the old rules and losing business. Customers will be at least as disappointed to be prevented from buying ammo they see on the shelf as they would be to find an empty shelf, and rationing is bound to result in disgruntled customers.

Thank goodness we live in a country that is relatively free. That may be changing, but in the mean time, a business owner has the choice to sell or ration. His choices will eventually dictate whether he stays in business or not. I don't care if the business sells me all the ammo they have or one box. If I don't like it, I am free to do business elsewhere..........To each their own.

Careby, your solution seems logical...everyone go out and by massive quantities of ammo. The problem is, everyone has been buying massive quantities of ammo for too long. Now everything is back ordered or otherwise unavailable.

At the least, we are securing the jobs of a lot of factory workers out there, which is good.

He's in business to make money. If I'm selling something at a set price, and someone wants to buy all of it that I have in stock, who am I to argue?

It's not a question of moral high ground, it's a business decision. If he *didn't* sell the entire lot to that customer, he has no guarantee that the remaining ammo won't sit on the shelf for the next three years. Inventory costs money.

If I was waiting for some ammo, and my shop knew it, maybe even offered to call me - and then sold it out from under me? Then I'd be upset. As is, the guy is trying to keep his doors open... I can't hate him for that.

I'd like to know who bought up all the .38 S&W (not special) recently. Took me a bit to track some down. Dark days indeed when everyone is stacking away shells for their old topbreak. Oh wait, that's what I was doing.

Anyway, if you're worried about it, just buy more guns. That way you have something in every caliber that you might turn up. No .38 Special left? No problem, there's some .45 ACP on the shelf, ooh and there's some .357 Sig...

You had better hope he is a HELL of a good customer.If you were in my part of the Country and put the screws to customers of 10, 15, 20+ years and sold it all to one person you would be down to that one so called customer!

A “case” of 9mm doesn’t amount to much ammo, or much money.

If I walked into any shop or store and there were 500 or 1000 rounds of 9mm and I wanted it all, it would seem flat out weird for the store to ration me to something less than that. Now if one guy bought the whole pallet that hit the store we might have something to talk about.

Now I’m glad I saw it coming well enough to stock up some on ammo, but I sure don’t have a lifetimes supply.

Emory

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Somehow that doesn't sound as crazy as it might have a year ago.

"In less than a year, those days are gone."

It's only temporary. In a couple of months folks are going to concern themselves w/summer activities that don't include continued spending on stockpiling even more over-priced ammo. The shortage now is a direct result of political upheaval and grown men acting like spoiled brats.
The NRA, gun rags and the chosen ones, (the 25% of the general population being gun owners), have decided to throw a hissy fit coz their guy didn't get in office. The NRA, gun rags and the chosen one's preached loud n long from the pulpit on how the end of the world was near if their guy didn't obtain the election. Well, not enough wanted the old, white guy living in Az. that had been leap-frogged by his party on numerous occasions. Rather than deal w/opposing party's choice they hatched a brilliant plan. We'll preach more gloom n doom, buy as much as we can of ammo while laughing how OB is the greatest ammo salesman of all time. We'll convince everyone how the end is near and start a stampede of all the fear stricken sheeple. Forget about being part of the solution, we're gonna buy all the marbles we can and contribute to the problem @ hand. Now that you've contributed to this false sense of worth the folks are buying ammo like commodity brokers. How typical that you don't take the credit, yet try to lay the blame @ the current administration's feet. JFK, the man hasn't even put in the first hundred days. Fifty-seven I believe is the count. During WWII many items were placed on ration so everyone could get some. Maybe not what they wanted, but enough to get by while times were tough. Times sure have changed. It's all about me, what I can grab and screw the next fella. Some real patriots out there. Keep listening to them. They are the ones that whipped this madness into a frenzied, fever pitch. This market manipulation is turning shooting into an elitist sport of leisure. Not peculiar, yet interesting that all this run on ammo has done what those who wish to limit sales couldn't accomplish. The very, buy now, end of America strategy has made the average shooter a third world person of interest as they scour the streets looking for their caliber of choice. You've screwed yourself. Keep drinking the kool-aid and preaching baloney, but don't waste your time blaming the current administration. If your looking to assign the blame you have to look no further than the mirror. You've embraced false fear and spread it like the plague until it snowballed out of control. Now your scratching your butt trying to figure out how it's the dems fault. You want to blame them in the worst way, yet all those evil socialists/dems/tree huggers aren't buying the ammo. Keep up the good work boys. Hell, I even bought a few boxes @ waly world so I could be a hoarder too. Get 'em while ya can, Yee-Haw the end is near! I heard on-line that a ammo shipment is being delivered to your waly world tonight. Be there or be square. To thine own self be true...
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I went looking today, Walmart had a few boxes of 9s, 380 and 38, no 22s. They also put up a sign saying 2 boxes per customer. I didn't like that at all.

Sports Authority had boxes and boxes of all you could want. The prices were 19.99 for 500 22s. 24.99 for 100 9s and I couldn't see the prices on the 38s or 357s. They were all Winchester. The prices are higher but it was there. The were also running a sale for 20% off all Shotgun ammo. If they were giving 20% on all ammo I probably would have bought some. As of now I will just keep buying from Mastercast.

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Your post is just too long to quote in it's entirety. I have to agree that this whole business is just a bunch of nonsense.


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thank You I feel vindicated that I used a term so often used, and seems pretty hip. Now that makes my day as i am now 70 and don't fill hip about now. However I did play 18 holes and broke 90 from the regular tees. Wonders never cease.

Nickster you are sterotyping all bulk buyers.
A lot of it is fear, sure. Some end of the world folks, and who knows, they may be right.
I am buying simply as a way to keep a steady fairly cheap supply of target ammo.
I have all the JHP's I need short of WWIII.
But I would like to keep a few thousand of my most popular target rounds as a hedge against price increases.
It may go back down in price. It may go up some more. But right now I have seen my most common plinking ammo go from $9.99 a box to $15.
I figure I buy a few cases now, I don't have to worry about future price increases for a couple of years. It hits $20 for 50 and I won't shoot much.
If you don't have the money or feel it's not necessary, well I am sorry. Not going to stop me from making an economic choice.
And for me that is all it is, economics, I think prices will keep going up to levels I can't afford, so I am buying now.

Well guys and gals I like my gun shop owner, and I know they are in a fix especially the small, shops. they use distributors and they don't have the buying power of the big operations. My only point was that the last two 9mm I bought, I bought there and had been waiting for 2-4 boxes of range ammo. going in to store each day. With the old has the ammo came in yet. I had passed on two boxes at the Lake of the Ozarks where there is a big operation that scouts for ammo and guns all day. Money talks and bull walks. It was just a disappointment. Bad situation the time is ripe for sales but you can't get product. that sucks I'm sure.

If I went into a store and was told I could only have a certain limit, I'd tell them to sell my share to the other customers that evidently did not show up. It's sad, these times we live in.

I just an email from Georgia Arms today that the DOD has orders to stop selling brass to ammo manufacturers and that DOD is ordered to destroy all brass and document it. Georgia Arms enclosed two letters from DOD. The new policy was dated 3/16/09.

I see that the order was reversed yesterday afternoon under pressure by the NRA and others. Georgia Arms Update

Letter Re-Authorizing Release for Sale

Wow, things are getting tough! I went to a local shop recently to buy some 7.35 Carcano for a Forum friend who wanted it, only to find a guy at the counter who was buying all they had left! I was only able to pick up some loose rounds here and there that he missed.

Just the other day, I went in to pick through their .303 British milsurp (they kept odds and ends of the stuff in a large ammo can) only to find someone had bought the whole can! I used to enjoy picking through that stuff, mostly WWII and early Cold War era, to find some gems (eg, WRA 42, etc.) Now some ammo hog came in and bought the whole can? OK, the gloves are off now, Baby!

Now this is getting ridiculous! I guess the silver lining is that ammo manufacturers must be running three shifts and weekends to boot. Maybe they (and the black rifle manufacturers) will lead us out of this recession.

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You're shy a few manners.

You can only support artificially inflated values for so long before the price falls back in line w/real value. The reason you're not seeing ammo as readily available and cheaper is coz too many folks are trying to maintain a store in their spare bedroom. As some here have noticed there's plenty @ various places for a price. If the industry gurus decide that you'll continue to pay 1.5-2 times the actual value then they'll do their best to supply just enough to keep the prices and margins up. Now add gunshow vendors buying pallets of ammo from retailers and viola, continued shortage. Until competition starts cutting the prices, due in part to a slow in sales, prices will float above value. Pay what you want to buy what ya want. Some of those talking heads that are telling you the prices are never coming down might be making a mint selling ammo. Be a knowledgeable consumer. Check your online prices and your waly world, Academy Sports/whatever chain store in your area. If you go to a gun show and they don't substantially beat those prices then walk on by n forgetaboutit.
@ the end of days everyone is gonna want to enjoy a hot cup of Jo. Stop buying ammo and start stocking up on Java. I think 100-250 lbs stored in the closet oughta be about right. What, do youse think the price of coffee is going to drop? Gee, I wonder if that'll affect the coffee/ammo prices. People vote on products and prices every day w/their pocketbook/wallet. As long as you buy they will supply, for a price. Only you can decide if that price is worth the product.

Yes, I'm a little over the top turning some of this around 180 degrees. I don't intend to stereotype nor do I believe that conservative Publicans are evil or all bulk buyers are a secret conspiracy. There's no magic here, just taking a stab @ pointing out a few things.
George, your kewl and all you needed to say was, "But I stayed @ a Holiday Inn last night." Which I guess, seeing how I used it is played and passé.
Happy shootin'...

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I can go to my local NAPA and buy a case of 9mm, a case of .45, a case of .223, and a case of 7.62x39 right now. He has had it all in stock in large quantities for several weeks now. I just don't want to pay the prices. I was tempted to get a case of the Blazer .45s at right at $15.00 per box of 50, but I already have several cases of .45s. I believe his price on .223 is $399.00 for a case of 1000. It is selling, but he keeps getting shipments.

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How much is reasonable? I teach firearms classes and supply the .22's we shoot for initial familiarization. With a dozen students shooting, a class will shoot 1200 to 1500 rimfires in a morning. to cover the next three classes,I need to buy 4500 rounds and if I can't get the ammo I can't teach the classes.

I have limited the scheduling of classes to what I have ammo to cover. The limitation used to be my time.

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