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I loved Star Trek when I was a kid, and I guess I still do. My little street was bereft of kids when it came on TV. My Dad loved it too.
After Kirk, Spock, and Bones were off the air, I didn’t follow the other TV versions. I did watch all the movies with the original cast - even the one with the whales.
I got Paramount Plus to watch 1883, and they also carried the current iteration, Star Trek Discovery. The first season was ok, but it was disjointed and it lacked a good Captain. It is set just ten years before the original series, so all of those characters are out there somewhere.
Of course the Captain of the Enterprise before Kirk was Christopher Pike, who was looking pretty rough during that go round.
I started Season Two and who should show up, all hale and hearty, but Cullen Bohannon from Hell On Wheels as Captain Pike. When he comes wheeling up in the old Enterprise, NCC1701, I almost cried.
Anson Mount has got the Starship Captain swagger down pat. The series is as goofy as ever, with crew members of all species, varieties, and genders. Just like the original.
You may hate it, but for now its working for me.
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I've always liked the original Star Trek, and maybe the first season or so of "The Next Generation", but the others are just a bunch of talking heads and the scripts got too "current social situation" involved.
Nobody can do Capt. Kirk as well as William Shatner; and even with their off-set personal differences, there was a chemistry among the characters that wasn't as good on the subsequent spinoffs.
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I have always been a Star Trek fan as well, the original, and the spin offs. I like quirky science fiction. But, the one thing to remember, only one star ship captain has actually been to outer space, and his name is Kirk...
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I am not a Trekkie as I wouldn't go to a convention but from the original series up to the latest movies they have entertained me well.
They did their jobs.
PS: I felt a kinship to Odo (the changeling) as, like him, I am a shapeshifter.
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We quickly fell into the routine of me picking her up at the day care after I got off work and eating dinner in front of the tv so we could watch Star Trek. We now agree that even though we were both having to make some adjustments we fondly remember all those Star Trek dinners. I seriously believe that helped us grow closer having that experience to share.
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For a great period in my young life in the 70s, Star Trek was on twice a day after school (intertwined with Spiderman and Ultraman) and once on Sunday morning. Mom punished me one time (for telling my sister to go to hell) by not letting me watch TV after school that week. It was a very long week.
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I wrote here long ago that some shows should be left in their time and not ressurrect
The Star Trek franchise is one of those exceptions to that rule.
That being said it shows a lack of imagination to not come up with new ideas. Granted, today's television entertainment I find neither entertaining nor enjoyable to a great degree. Star Trek did reimagine itself successfully (Kirk replaced by Picard, et al).
Many shows that cannot be done to (Dark Shadows, The Avengers (MacNee/Rigg), Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, many others).
I do not see the necessity of rehashing old TV shows and their characters to fit a modern outlook. Let's take a look at one in particular...Emergency! with Kevin Tighe and Randy Mantooth. Until they came along few even knew what a paramedic or EMT was. That show encouraged a lot of my generation (and probably a few here) to follow that path in life. You can't do that kind of show today and current shows of its genre can't even be mentioned in the same honored breath as that show dated as it is.
What I am saying is that Trek will have its fans. I have seen a few of the newer visions of it and found them all to be lacking in many areas.
Sometimes, if a show cannot be left in its time and has room to be reimagined, then it is best to let that shows franchise take a long rest and bring it back down the road. Unfortunately, most studios want to milk the cash cow until it dies...
Star Trek was off the main network for decades and was only in local syndication for years before Star Trek: The Next Generation appeared in 1987.
That philosophy should be revisited.
(Are you listening, Disney, when it comes to Star Wars)
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Can you imagine being able to skip the long, cold walk to your tree stand, scarin' everything in the woods, & instead just put in the coordinates to the tree stand & beam yourself out there with warm coffee & biscuits & gravy.
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For a great period in my young life in the 70s, Star Trek was on twice a day after school (intertwined with Spiderman and Ultraman) and once on Sunday morning. Mom punished me one time (for telling my sister to go to hell) by not letting me watch TV after school that week. It was a very long week.
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I remember that by 3:30 every afternoon Ultraman had helped destroy Tokyo and thrown a rubber monster into Tokyo Bay. Amazingly by 3:00 the next afternoon the city had been rebuilt. Industrious people.
Shin Hayata!
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Just clicked this thread out of boredom, because I'm on hold on my phone.
Kinda hard to imagine things like that brought up in a Star Trek thread. Never been a fan of the show, so I'm clueless about it.
I guess winter is getting to a few folks.
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I really like Star Trek TOS. WVIA channel 44 used to show them on Saturday night, along with a few Twilight Zone episodes. This was in the early 80's.
I thought that Star Trek TNG was pretty well done.
That said, I have no interest in all the spinoff series.
And the last 2 Star Trek movies were interesting, but they deviated from the TOS timeline. I don't care for that.
The Last Standing Knight is right. Let the shows of the past remain untouched.
"Emergency!" was my favorite show as a kid. I have the 1st season and pilot movie on DVD.
Some things should not be "reimagined".
It will never be as good as the original.
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I really like Star Trek TOS. WVIA channel 44 used to show them on Saturday night, along with a few Twilight Zone episodes. This was in the early 80's.
I thought that Star Trek TNG was pretty well done.
That said, I have no interest in all the spinoff series.
And the last 2 Star Trek movies were interesting, but they deviated from the TOS timeline. I don't care for that.
The Last Standing Knight is right. Let the shows of the past remain untouched.
"Emergency!" was my favorite show as a kid. I have the 1st season and pilot movie on DVD.
Some things should not be "reimagined".
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That's too bad you have no interest in the others, you're really missing out. Star Trek: Voyager is my absolute favorite of the franchise, and Enterprise is a pretty close 2nd.
Not a fan of the new Picard or Discovery. In fact, I think the new Discovery is just plain bad plus unnecessarily laced with 21st century political correctness.
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My dad always described Star Trek as Gunsmoke in outer space. Kirk, Doc McCoy and Spock were the counterparts for Matt Dillon, Doc Adams and Festus.
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I've only seen the 1st season of Discovery, none of the rest nor Picard. I guess I'm too cheap to pony up for CBS just for those shows.
The new warp drive on Discovery seems rather contrived, even for Star Trek. Of course coming up with new plots that fit into the established history can be difficult.
I thought TNG was good. Voyager was my least favorite, even though that series was open to brand new stories. The captain was more bureaucrat than explorer.
Enterprise was excellent - the plots revolved around them actually having to think their way out of problems rather than depend on Spock or Data coming up with some sort of miracle techno-babble solution.
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Never thought about the similarities with the characterizations.
I read somewhere, when the series was in development, that Roddenberry tried to sell the series to doubtful TV execs as a "Wagon Train" to the stars.
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I've liked all the Star Trek TV series except Voyager. Something about Capt. Janeway just wasn't appealing.
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I remember how Star Trek was cancelled after the third season and right after that Armstrong was seen via television walking on the moon! But it was too late. People across the country were practically begging for the show to return. It stayed in syndication forever after that. Took another ten years for the first movie to hit the theaters.
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First Generation Trekker here, September 5, 1966 on our then B&W TV-remember those? Gene Roddenberry described it as "Wagon Train to the Stars". In the later series they tried to get away from the "happy crew" idea, recognizing that military units are rarely a band of brothers.
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First Generation Trekker here, September 5, 1966 on our then B&W TV-remember those? Gene Roddenberry described it as "Wagon Train to the Stars". In the later series they tried to get away from the "happy crew" idea, recognizing that military units are rarely a band of brothers.
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I guess it makes sense it has some similar characteristics to Westerns. Gene Roddenberry was a writer for 'Have Gun - Will Travel'.
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We did a training staff exercise (Army, 30 years ago) comparing Kirk and Picard. The consensus was we all wanted to work for Picard, but we all wanted to BE Kirk....
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At one Creation Con, when asked "How would Kirk handle a situation as opposed to Picard?", Shatner replied:
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The wife and I have rewatched every episode of every series up to Enterprise with our two youngest daughters. I avoided Voyager when it first came out. 20 years later I have to say it has some of the best episodes in the whole franchise. I draw the line at anything that came out after Enterprise, though. I hated the new movies and I am not interested in Discovery or Picard from what I have seen.
If you liked Star Trek, Farscape, or Lexx, you should watch Andromeda. It has some cheesy moments and a few seasons where the show falters but it is an underrated gem overall.
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If you liked Star Trek, Farscape, or Lexx, you should watch Andromeda. It has some cheesy moments and a few seasons where the show falters but it is an underrated gem overall.
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I always thought that the Andromeda avatar was really hot! That still didn't compel me to tune in very often!
Farscape reruns just started locally on broadcast TV. I prefer my Muppets in old run down theaters! My BFF and I act like Waldorf and Statler! (not such a good thing in church!)
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William Shatner as Captain Kirk , and the original cast and series will never be topped ever.
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The post about Andromeda made me think of the 1971 sci-fi movie Andromeda Strain. For its time it was quite a tale.
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She is very beautiful. And she is married to Michael Shanks from Stargate SG1. Lucky guy.
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