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Old 03-16-2009, 06:16 PM
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howdy , is there a registry of former UDT / Navy Seals
trying to find out whether someone was or was not a UDT???
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howdy , is there a registry of former UDT / Navy Seals
trying to find out whether someone was or was not a UDT???
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I was wondering the same thing, its funny how many people say that they were seals and they were never even in the Navy.
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I think there are several or at least there used to be several years ago when I wanted to check someone out, turned out he was a liar as I suspected. I think if you google "fake SEAL" you should be able to find what you are looking for.
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What does tupperwear and walruses have in commmon?


Both are always on the lookout for a good tight seal.
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As susggested found this on google

http://cyberseals.org/SEAL%20Imposters.html

I had used the previous site which they say is now closed for a similar request some time ago.
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You can surf the forum.

http://www.navyseals.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

Many / most wont advertize. Idiots want to test you while you are with your family or whatever. The saying goes something like if he says he is, he’s not.
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I met a Navy SEAL-a Captain-at a Friends of NRA Event 2 years ago-first one I ever met. I asked him if he was wearing the SEAL Badge, he said yes, then he said:
"There's two ways to get it. First, you go to the BX"
IIRC the badge is gold for those who graduate and are assigned to teams, silver for those who don't.
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Old 03-16-2009, 06:54 PM
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Just a thought.. It would seem to me.. that the U.D.T and S.E.A.L designation is an "Qualification" that is earned..but without actually looking at a persons DD 214 ( or service record ) one would never know..
Just a thought..
But I can tell you a story about a real SEAL..
It was in 1967/68 a SEAL was attached to our squadron. None of us had ever seen the device he was wearing, just heard scuttlebutt..
Stayed all of about two weeks never spoke much to anyone or told stories.. then he disappeared.. it seems that he should have never been assigned to us .. he pointed out that a "mistake" was made, and then he was gone..
Amazing what you remember after 40 years when you meet the real deal
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IIRC the badge is gold for those who graduate and are assigned to teams, silver for those who don't.
Those who don't get sent back to the fleet to swab the decks, they don't get a badge.

There is a website maintained for the purpose of outing liars. Every one who has ever been a UDT/SEAL is listed.

If I had a nickle for every SEAL I met at bars or at gunshows I would be rich.

I did meet some, my plane was the jump platform for the Navy Parachute Team (Leapfrogs) for a few shows in 1990. Every member of the team at that time was a SEAL except for one parachute rigger. It's about the only shore duty they can get.

If they say they are, they probably aren't.

Go here if you want to verify.


Read this:
http://www.lovefraud.com/07_ho...ilitary_service.html

Then go here.

http://pownetwork.org/

Or Here.

http://www.cyberseals.org/authentiseal/

If you find out he is a fraud then use this to bust him:

http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/

The FBI will investigate.

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Old 03-16-2009, 07:34 PM
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Back in the days when I used to compete in NRA Highpower over the course match shooting we had our state matches at the Coalinga rifle range. In the 1990’s the Seals rented the range during the summer to learn sniper craft and they had a big tent set up there. They would take the weekend off and compete in the match with us. I heard some pretty interesting stories around the campfire or in the pits pulling targets. I will say one thing, those guys are crazy and sure do know how to party. I also noticed that most of them were not muscle bound but pretty wiry. I understand they quit using the Coalinga range when some of them started coming down with Valley Fever.

I mostly compete in BPCR Silhouette now. One of the competitors is a retired Seal in his late 60’s. I have never heard him talk about being a Seal.
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I believe the silver Trident is for enlisted and the gold for officers. I live in a Navy town and the area I live in has lots of UDT/SEAL/Special Boat operators around here since Little Creek and Dam Neck are both here. My experience is that except for the obvious level of fitness and attitude one might observe you would never know who these guys are. I have never seen one boast or brag about their job. Anyone who does is probably a phoney in my opinion.
I served in the Navy. I was a Machinists Mate. I operated and worked on steam turbogenerators. It wasn't very exciting but a ship with no electrical power is useless. Anyone that has served should be proud of whatever they did and it is just sad that some need to make up such things to feel important.
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The silver Trident was for enlisted up until the 70's. At that time the silver Trident was abolished and every team member was awarded a Gold Trident. It is one of the few enlisted insignias that is gold.

A little insignia trivia,

The SEAL insignia is the only insignia in the United States government where the bald eagle is bowing his head. It represents the honor the US bestows to those willing and dedicated enough to persevere through the most difficult training in the world.

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:14 PM
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When I was in boot camp at Great Lakes the swimming pool and water survival training were run by some tough old Seals. That must have been some boring duty for them.

I was stationed at Dam Neck just before the Seal Team moved in there. There was a pig farm next door I think by the name of Malbon Farms. When the breeze was right the whole base was blessed with their fragrance. Years later I was back there and the farm was gone but there was a new housing development called Malbon Acres. That was good for a laugh. I remember the EM club at Little Creek - the El Cocodrillo. Beer was cheap, not much else to say. I was a boomer sailor. As new Tridents were built, older missile subs had to be taken out of service due to SALT treaties. A couple of the older subs were re-purposed as Seal delivery vehicles. Instead of launching missiles from the missile tubes I guess they launched frogmen. They must have had a lot more "interesting" patrols than we did, making slow circles in the middle of the cold North Atlantic.
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I tended bar for longer than I should have, but during those years I was amazed by how many heros came in. There were airborne rangers, green berets, SEALS, Delta operators, etc. Everyone of them a phony and liar.

The only one I ever bought a drink for was a vet who said he was a truck driver in VN. At last, an honest vet.
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There is enough literature out there on SEALs, Force Recon, UDTs, snipers, Special Forces, etc. that if one is willing to do one's
homework, like an actor doing a character study or a reenactor or living historian doing a first person impression one can hold an audience and convince them you are the Real Thing.
Yes, it's amazing how out of the 3-4 million people who served in Vietnam, you never meet anyone who was a clerk, a cook, a mechanic, an armorer, a radio operator, a radar technician, etc., etc.
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If I had a nickle for every SEAL I met at bars or at gunshows I would be rich.
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I tended bar for longer than I should have, but during those years I was amazed by how many heros came in. There were airborne rangers, green berets, SEALS, Delta operators, etc. Everyone of them a phony and liar.
There are about 1000 wannabes pretending to be a SEAL to every actual SEAL.
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The best way to find out if he was a seal is to kick him in the gonads and see what his response is. I haven't tried it because I am a retired Chief, and I think I can spot a ********ter.
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Kinda off thread a tad, but I was sitting next to a guy in a bar one night who was going on about being a VN Vet (maybe to get free drinks?) anyway his story was pretty good up until he said he had been a door gunner on a Cobra. Well me and a couple biker buddies (they were Real Vets) called him out on it and before it was all over he admitted he was too young to even have been there.
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If I had a nickle for every SEAL I met at bars or at gunshows I would be rich.
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I tended bar for longer than I should have, but during those years I was amazed by how many heros came in. There were airborne rangers, green berets, SEALS, Delta operators, etc. Everyone of them a phony and liar.
There are about 1000 wannabes pretending to be a SEAL to every actual SEAL.
AMEN To that! Meet a lot of them, too.
Had real ones with us on our ship on a Westpac.
They were "deeds, not words." kind of guys. Their PT program put in in better shape than when I graduated MCRD San Diego.
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If you had a name, I could probably check him out, as an old friend put his time in on the "teams"........now retired. I visited my pal back in the summer of '73 when I wheeled up to the gate at the Amphib base on Coronado and requested to see Lt. K and BOQ. I received real quick instructions. I really had to pee bad. I'll never forget the flushing power that those toilets had at my pal's apt........simply awesome! I had a chance to meet a bunch of Seals over the next couple of trips out to San Diego. Common denominator is that these are a group of very intelligent men.......high tolerance to pain is probably a plus. Funny how many years later I saw an instructor Joe Y. on one of the TV shows doing a Seals training episode. He was one of my buddys room-mates back in the day...........remember the house on Chatsworth, Joe?.......lol.......what a party stop! Bottom line.........this is one of the few cases where tax dollars are well spent in the federal arena.........just my 2 cents!
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The oldest son of one of my friends is a Major in the Marine Corps. After he got back from Iraq, he told us that all the Seals that he met there were completely insane, but the good kind of insane. When they were given a tough assignment, it was a foregone conclusion that the Seals would succeed. The word "failure" is not in their vocabulary. I'm glad the Seals are on our side.
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One of my assignments in the Air Force was to a joint headquarters where I worked with variety of special ops types, including SEALs. They were intelligent, dedicated, and committed. They were a bit over the top in PT (IMO, after all, I was an AF guy, and when we think of PT, we take a nap until the thought goes away), but never bragged that they were better; they didn't have to, they knew it, and so did we.
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IMO, after all, I was an AF guy, and when we think of PT, we take a nap until the thought goes away),


But to be fair I do not beleive that applies to Air Force PJ's, but I could be wrong?
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No, it doesn't apply to PJs, CCTs, TACPs, and a whole lot of AF members who do the daily mission of taking the fight to the bad guys. But it does apply to us over-the-hill, too- broken-down-to-fly-anymore, former commanders who can only serve in a staff assignment.
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But it does apply to us over-the-hill, too- broken-down-to-fly-anymore, former commanders who can only serve in a staff assignment.
Sort of like the rest of us old guys!
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A directive came down from CICPAC, 7th Fleet to Carrier Groups:
The XO was stating that there would be female sailors on CVA'S and that
they would have private sleeping and showering quarters.
It was to be off limits to all male sailors, no excuses.
1st time caught $50.00, 2nd time $100.00.
My team and I were in transit on the J.F.K. at the time and, well me being the smart *** that I was then yelled, how much for a season pass.
It cost $500.00 and no season pass.
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I have known and worked with two Medal of Honor recipients. I did not learn they had the awards until a year or so after having regular contact with them. I also worked with a couple of Vietnam Era Special Forces types, one Army one Navy, they were proud of their service and I believed their stories, but the stories were modest. In those day Special Forces were just the best, not superhuman. Pretenders are found out.
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