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View Poll Results: So if you can't get you medical treatment due to the collapse of civilization, what will happen?
I'm dead, forget about it 10 12.35%
Major aggravation and problems 20 24.69%
Not too bad 32 39.51%
Nothing, nada, no problem at all 14 17.28%
It will be better 5 6.17%
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:38 AM
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I know we like to talk about zombie guns and such, and food stockpiles and water and bug out bags, and so on, but what about things like medication and CPAP machines? What if the power is off, what if you can't get insulin or kidney dialysis, or whatever?

I've got a CPAP machine, so I figure I'll probably have real trouble sleeping until the general bad conditions cause me to lose enough weight that I don't have that problem.

There are fun things like insulin, withdrawal from anti-depressants, etc, etc. etc.
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I know we like to talk about zombie guns and such, and food stockpiles and water and bug out bags, and so on, but what about things like medication and CPAP machines? What if the power is off, what if you can't get insulin or kidney dialysis, or whatever?

I've got a CPAP machine, so I figure I'll probably have real trouble sleeping until the general bad conditions cause me to lose enough weight that I don't have that problem.

There are fun things like insulin, withdrawal from anti-depressants, etc, etc. etc.
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I do take a blood thinner. I already had a pulmanary embelism is why I am on it. That could be a problem.
I will say I am not at all worried about myself on a personnal basis, but am for my family and others standpoint. I am at 68 and lived a full life, and not afraid of death, or fighting for my life to survive.
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I have had to deal with this in another context. We know that there are some health problems that are going to result in death. We know that the dying will pose issues and when dead, pose other problems.

Keeping spare meds is a smart call, as well as back-up power. These can help you get over modest social speed bumps. A collapse of civilization is an entirely different matter.
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I'm not worried about me, but more my wife. And if we have young kids, then what? If it was just me, I would take my chances where ever, but it isn't just me anymore.
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No more Prozac? Eh. It just takes the edge off. I'd just be angrier. Come the apocalypse, that might be a good thing I'd think.

I'd miss toothpaste more. Having to brush my teeth with a twig or boar bristles in a piece of bone and some lye soap is going to be unpleasant.
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frankly I am looking forward to a change

bring it on....I can survive...and a close friend and nieghboor owns a HUGE drug store
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First thing I plan on doing is arming myself well, and taking EVERY 24hr. Allegra in the tri-state area from every pharmacy I can.

After that, run the generator, kick back, enjoy some canned peaches, and catch up on DVD's.
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Yep, it's a change I can live with. We're gonna run short on liberals pretty quickly though.
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Prozac, Schmozac!
Anyone ever heard of a Martini?
Why do I have firearms you may ask.
Answer, so I can acquire Vodka and ice.
Till I no longer can, civilization has not ended officially.
(EDIT) On further consideration, I've decided that if civilization "officially ends" I'll start smoking again. How you may ask?
See line #3 above...
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We've had this problem before in our part of the country. Hurricanes hit, power is down for days. People on home oxygen run into big problems. We have had to go around with portable generators to help people with things like this. I bet Caj Lawyer has several good stories about Katrina.
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...and Betty, and Sue, and Sheila.......

BTW- I thought civilization had already collapsed.
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Well my parents have a generator on their house, a well and plenty of room so I'm loading up the car and heading home if SHTF. I'm on a small dosage of meds for thyroid but other than that I'm fairly healthy. Matter of fact, before I was on it the only problem I experienced was a "lump" in my throat. As for zombies, well, between dad and I, we've got them covered.
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I'm sure it would be a real pain, but assuming I'm not murdered by roving hordes and my well doesn't run dry, I honestly think I'd be healthier without so much "civilization". Most all my health issues would improve after a few months of forced calorie reduction.
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As Hank Jr said "A country boy can survive."
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As far as meds and medical devices go, my immediate family would be just fine. My Mother and my neighbor wouldn't do so well, though. Mom's on asthma meds, neighbor has a C-Pap, insulin, etc. We can muddle through with Mom, but I'm not sure what to do about neighbor. During the ice storm last winter, I took my small generator over there at night so that he could sleep, but that's not a permanent solution, and I have no idea what to do about insulin.
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Yep, it's a change I can live with. We're gonna run short on liberals pretty quickly though.

I have a pretty good supply of baby asprin.
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I have a backup plan.....the taking over my local Costco

ya know the gene pool does need some chlorine?
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I take several prescriptions but y cutting all dosages in half, I imagine I am good for a long time. At my age--78, I don't worry a lot.
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Osama Bin Laden has been on dialysis for a heck of a long time, and presumably still is. How, I don't know.
For insulin, two sheep a year have to be killed.
My wife is on asthma medications that are an absolute must. I have a revolver. I will figure it out.
I've been hit in the head before.
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Till I no longer can, civilization has not ended officially.
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I got to go with that-hell I even understand that there are plants that grow in nature that one can injest by smoking or eating which produce that oddly calming "I don't give a snot" euphoria that goes so well with the munchies
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I'm sure it would be a real pain, but assuming I'm not murdered by roving hordes and my well doesn't run dry, I honestly think I'd be healthier without so much "civilization". Most all my health issues would improve after a few months of forced calorie reduction.
I like your way of thinking. Once we're forced to cut out all the **** we eat and we start getting exercise while we scrounge out a living, we'll be suprised what meds we don't need anymore. Some still won't make it, and that's too bad, but imagine the health problems that are common today that the next generation after the fall will find rare.

My problem is that I don't have a well, and there are no sure sources of water within walking distance of my house. Even if I had a well, the electricity to pump it would eventually run out. Even windmills need regular servicing. I guess I can try to move onto someone else's place near the river. After all, if civilization really goes, how long will the courthouse records last anyway? The new deeds may be written in lead.
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Hobbes nailed it: Life will be "nasty, brutish, and short"--again.

Probably those things can be mitigated somewhat through personal weaponry.

I don't think we want to find out firsthand.
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At least there is plenty of protien around here. Anyone have a rub for "soccer mom".
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Yes I do Rick!
But mine got me slapped the last time I tried to use it?
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I heard old family storys of people picking oats from horse turds when they were on the run over a hundred years ago.
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Medically speaking, which was what I thought the poll was about? There are 3 medical pro's in my immediate family. A nurse, dentist and doctor. No problem with medical care here.
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Medically speaking, which was what I thought the poll was about? There are 3 medical pro's in my immediate family. A nurse, dentist and doctor. No problem with medical care here.
There is [a problem with medical care] if you need medicine and they don't happen to have a rather advanced chemisty set up in the basement.

What you need is someone used to field medicine - Army medics, Navy Corpsman, or doctors used to operating in third world conditions. Your average doctor or nurse in the United States isn't going to know how to treat a gunshot wound with Civil War era tools. Dentistry meanwhile is going to come down to a couple shots of moonshine and a Leatherman tool.
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In this liquor control board state, they've conveniently located a Rite-Aid drug store in the same strip mall as the liquor locker! Pain killers w/o a prescription. Or any waiting time in line for that matter either! Just random drive by thoughts? I'll bet a generator capable of keeping a doctor and/or dentists office up and running, could keep a doc's family well fed as well as yours well cared for!
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What was the question? "If you can't get your medical treatment due to socialized health care rationing?"

I guess we'll go back to the "good old days" when people guarded their health and diet a little more carefully, and took care of their own aging parents, because they themselves was all they had to depend on.
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The only one I have to be somewhat concerned about is my daughter (Ulcerative Colitis) but we have tucked away about 2 months worth of meds and if SHTF we plan to knock over the drug store before leaving to our rally point!
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