My guess is that most here do not. I think it is hog wash myself.

Joe

Oh, I believe it is exists, BUT I don't think that mankind has caused it all. Weather has cycles and always has gone from coldspells to warm spells.

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WAR EAGLE!

NO.

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7 +1 Rounds of hope & change

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The post posted before the poll did for some reason. First time I did a poll.

Joe

This!

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global climate change? yes. natural cycle greatly expedited by mankind.

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Both the dinosaurs and the wooly mammoths believed in Global Warming & Cooling.

Absolutely not! It's all hokey nonsense.

All part of a natural cycle. In a few thousand years we will be moving south out of the way of advancing ice.

I can show you sedimentary strata where we went through a 1500 year drought 5000 years ago.

I don't think cars and factories had much to do with it, but all of those farting buffalo might have.

I am no scientist and uneducated. I am of the opinion it is hogwash, al gore is a phony and idiot, he found a moneymaker and considers everyone below him, do as I say NOT as I do, he contaminates the air farting through his mouth, real tin hat guy!
I bet that if you took every human off the planet, what polution there is in the air would cleanse itself in 3 days, and their would be no change people or not! What it has done is spent unknown amount of useless money.
These people are experimenting to see how dumb the citizens are. I see now in the san jaquine valley in california ranchs and produce farms have lost 85,000 farm labor jobs due to a envireamental group getting a lawsuite approved to shut off the water to "save" some 2 inch minnows! The world has gone mad! Of course produce prices will be affected.
Stop the world a toad, minnow, lizzard and turtle are worth more than humans! Sorry, but only idiots that cant think for themselves belive that!
Lets go to corn fuel. It costs more to produce than oil, ruins your engines, uses more oil to produce it, corn goes up while everything else because farmers wont grow other produce, yup makes perfect sense to me!
Tax the farting cows, get your exspendsive sour milk from china, let them make the money, polute the air and let it drift over here anyway. I guess I need to be educated!
The world is insane!

I should have added Hokey Nonsense to the list to pick from.

As far as I'm concerned the jury is still out as to whether the global climate is warming.

The speculation that any such climate change is being caused by man is pure BS.

Yeah, this is just what I was about to say, too. Geologists find plenty of evidence that weather comes in cycles, and that there are mini cycles within the larger cycles. Only about 10,000 years ago, we had an Ice Age. The 19th Century was apparently somewhat cooler than the 20th Century. Apparently there was a very cool period, at least in Europe, in the 12-1300's. I think I read that, I could be off a couple of hundred years one way or the other. We see the polar ice caps melting, so there is apparently a global warming of some sort. Now the question is, whether humans have anything really to do with it.

It's been confirmed that global warming is not happening. Sooo, the environmentalists have changed the language in the argument to Climate Change. "THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING" (Chicken Little)....Fear is a great motivator.

Dennis

I voted yes. I believe in global warming, cooling and in between. It's a natural process that's been repeating itself since creation.
I also believe that man has little if any influence over it. ( But it's a BIG money maker for some) One vocanic eruption puts out more dust, and green house gasses than mankind does over a millenia.

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Yes, and that "ONE" eruption, if big enough could put the ice on us all overnight and put this all to rest with no where to run. Cool huh?

As far as I know we are about 30,000 years past due for the next ice age.

Joe

Nature always has a way of putting us in our place. It's what I love most about her.

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Does it exist? Yes... The average temperature of the planet has infact been slowly on the rise. Is it caused by man?....... well we sure aren't making it cooler.

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+1 for what Mulie Gil said.

speak for yourself......

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I voted "yes". I also believe in global cooling, and that the earth had had cycles of temperature fluctuations up and down for billions of years. Long before man kind was cutting the grass or driving a car.
The current push for "green everything" and other hookie B.S. is nothing more than people making money off of other people.
I believe in keeping the earth and our air and water clean, thats just common sense, but all of these other scams are attempts to take more money from US tax payers.
Now the "green" and "energy" radicals are using global politics to change our western culture.

How in hell can somebody tell what the tempeture was a billion years ago, a million or a thousand or 200, convert that all and say we are something like 3 1/2 degrees hotter than say, 10,000 years ago! I aint that trusting of tech and eggheads!

I believe that the Earth is in a warming trend. Do I believe that man, with his cars, planes and other internal combustion engines, his pollutants, his destruction of the rain forests, and urban sprawl are a contributing factor? Of course, no question. Do I think that hybrid cars, fluorescent light bulbs, and strangling government meddling will make a difference? Hell no! The problem really is same thing as all man's problems. TMDP. That's Too Many D*mn People. Birth control? Hah! What a joke. There are three ways to solve this, and they are Famine, Disease, and War. But, like was said above. The Earth can just fart, and make all this go away.

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Torn & Frayed

Here's my take -- there is some evidence that the earth is warming. If so, it is no big deal. It has happened many times in the past, and the most prosperous times for humanity have always been during warm periods. It's the Ice Ages that kill us off like flies. So I say, if it's warming, bring it on!

There is absolutely no evidence to support the idea that MANKIND is causing global warming. Those who believe such are simply deluded. Granted, it is a mass delusion, but that makes it no more real than an individual delusion.

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We as a whole. I'm actually probably one of the "greener" members on this forum. I even use reusable hippie bags.

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This is a great explanation of the argument used by the Man-made Climate Change zealots. They rely on modeling to prove their unprovable point.

The article gives a very simple response to a very complex argument.

The zealots use an immutable fact (that a computer is 100% accurate with the math of its calculations) but fail to mention that the end result is dependent on assumptions that it must calculate against (factors or guesses supplied by men who sometimes have preconceived ideas).

They are basically doing a calculation like this: X (known) TIMES Y (known) TIMES Z (wild guess) = Proven Scientific Model.

This is a very informative read, and gives some great examples on how these calculations have failed miserably within just the last year. Well worth the couple of minutes to read and understand.

if-you-cant-explain-it-you-cant-model-it

Here's an example of the true computer program that would be necessary to compute a 100% accurate climate model.

anyone who says flat out "no" is as quilty of drinking kool aid as most Dems!.. just a different kool aid.

Even over the recent past years when we can measure temperatures and ocean temps, there is proof that the earth is indeed getting warmer.

Caused be humans... THAT is the real question.

Thirty years ago we were headed for an ice age. Twenty years ago acid rain was going to be our downfall. Now we have Al Gore.

+1

anyone outright denying it is most likely doing so because for whatever reason they wish to not believe it.

I agree that if its caused or even helped along by humas any is the question.

I say it is a natural cycle warm and then cool, Just not caused by man. John

wbraswell has the right idea. way to many people. look at africa, parts of asia, even south of the border. too many mouths to feed and not enough food. one more thing, i do believe in global warming. when the sun's out it's warm and when it's not it's cooler.

scarier to me is the corporate agriculture (Monsanto).

as the right has a monopoly on most of this country's hunters and anglers, I would guess that in reality, we also are the strongest "environmental" advocates. reactionary anti-"green" attitudes don't get us anywhere (although it is a lot of fun to piss off hippies).

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To not believe in science pretty much leaves you sleeping naked in the mud. Man never went to the moon, we don't communicate on the internet, prehistoric animals never existed, and the ice ages never happened. Things will evolve, change will occur, with or without the present of man. Don't worry, be happy.

Found this in a local paper - names removed to protect the innocent:


Global Warming Is Misunderstood

I’m an out-of-town visitor to your fine city. I’ve always enjoyed [your city's] historic sites and your city’s uniquely Southern nightlife. However, I was more than a little dismayed to read [another writers] deeply prejudiced article on [a local energy company].

Now I don’t know much about [a local energy company], but I know a great deal about science and the physics of global warming or climate change or whatever the political-science spin doctors are calling it this week. Let me ask a common-sense question with the help from a little elementary school earth science:

What is more likely to drive global warming or climate change: 1) small variations in our sun, which provides 100 percent of our planet’s energy budget, or 2) large variations in carbon dioxide, an infinitesimally small trace gas in our atmosphere essential to photosynthesis? Many might say the debate is over now that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has covered all the relevant science. I would then ask, Have you read the IPCC technical reports? I would be very surprised to find anyone who has read any of them in-depth.

What readers will find are a number of interesting facts and obvious omissions, one of which is a clear statement that the IPCC does not begin to understand all of the factors affecting our climate, including solar dynamics and cloud cover. The IPCC notes that the global-warming potential of carbon dioxide is insignificant compared with many other atmospheric trace gases, including water vapor.

Some facts they don’t publish are: 1) Doubling carbon dioxide concentrations increases plant growth by 33 percent, good news for farmers and foresters, 2) warming stimulates plant growth and on balance is good for the economy and society, and 3) humans are only responsible for 3 percent of all carbon dioxide escaping into the atmosphere. Therefore carbon cap-and-trade fees and carbon-offset taxes would have to be enormous and draconian to have any significant impact on the planet’s carbon dioxide.

When all is said and done, the underlying reality is that nothing has done more to make our planet green over the past several decades than moderate sun-driven warming together with elevated levels of carbon dioxide, regardless of the source.

The most disturbing question is: Why is our government spending so much national treasure to convince us that 1) warming is bad when it is not, 2) carbon dioxide is largely responsible for warming when it is not, and 3) people are largely responsible for carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere when they are not?

[author removed for privacy]

Where did the "acid rain" go anyway? It really was a big deal back then and then it just drifted away one day.


I don't know why but I'm sort of surprised how even the yes's and no's are.


Joe

It's still a big deal in many parts of the world. Countries such as Greece wage a constant battle protecting and preserving their ancient treasures that are slowly being eaten away by acid rain.

Of course, in Attention Deficit Disorder America, can you expect us to be able to concentrate on.... oh look a bird.....

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It is about finding new opportunities to raise taxes. Just look who is pushing this agenda.

The phrase, "Tax and Spend" refers to which political party?

How about the ozone hole?

+1 What's the figure? .1 of a degree rise for the last 40 years or so? Yeah, that's "proof" enough for me.

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A natural cycle. All of the planets in our solar system were warming and now cooling as they have been since time began. Top scientists think that the sun may play a part in this
phenomenon.

The idiot on Channel 4 can't tell me if I'll need an umbrella tomorrow. Why should I believe any of these clowns can predict what will happen in fifty or 100 years, especially with flawed models and cherry-picked data?

If the greeners want to reduce greenhouse gasses, they can start with this one: Hold your breath, dummy.

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It appears the climate has been in a warming trend for the last few decades (actually since the Little Ice Age that ended in the early 19th Century), but this is far more likely heliogenic than anthropogenic (yeah, I am an envionmental scientist and get to use those kinds of words). It's interesting to note that we are now in one of the calmest solar periods in nearly a century, remarkably low sunspot activity. This has been a trend for the last several cycles, as opposed to most of the 20th Century. What does it mean? Historically, it's gonna get colder if that keeps up. But people are easy to convince that an issue such as global warming is something they may have caused, and thus can control and do something about. And it's easy to scapegoat carbon or other anthropogenic sources as a causative based on popular belief and "sensible" correlation (brought to you by the same folks touting 'sensible gun control measures') vs. the sun, over which we have no control. We'd like to think we could even divert an asteroid that wanted to smack the planet, but turning the sun's thermostat up or down --- well, that's a little big even for Hollywood dreamers. In the early 18th Century a lot of scientists believed in phlogiston. A lot still do, just by a new name.

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The Seventys =New ice age
The Eightys=Hole in the ozone layer and acid rain
The Ninetys=Global warming
First decade of this century=Global climate change(cause global warming wasn't going quite how they predicted)
What will be next? Whatever the scientists can make a buck"studying".

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Most of us seem to agree global warming is merely part of the natural cycle that's been going on since the beginning of time. Who really cares whether a warming trend is caused by changes in solar activity, water vapor, or from cows farting too much. There's little or nothing we can do about most of the suspect variables, so do we join the radical nuts and kill off all the food animals in the world, become vegetarians, and start eating more broccoli?
Some of the benefits of warming would be extended growing seasons, lower heating costs and less fuel use, more girls in skimpy clothing... Aside from inevitable changes in shorelines and weather patterns(all arguable as to possible severity) what's the down side?

I am from Minnesota, we need some global warming!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFTm6cJXM

You didn't offer a choice for allowing a sweaty delusional huckster who's otherwise devoid of talent some significance while enriching himself during his rapidly approaching dotage?

No! Just look at the evening weather (or an almanac) and see the disparity in when the temp records were set over the years. Hottest day since 1932 , warmest day since 1953 , coldest since 1973 , rainiest since 1944. The weather runs in erratic cycles.

If we have had 7 ice ages, then we have had to have 7 global warmings. What I don't understand is how we caused them.

Someone ask Al Gore, maybe he can hear you over the jet engines.

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Roger that! Unless you believe that the last ice age was finally ended by global warming resulting from the carbon footprint of cavemen driving their Flintstone-mobiles to their factory jobs every day... I still can't figure out why there's all this fuss over carbon-dioxide emissions. Aren't we supposed to be going "green"? Well, everything that is green NEEDS CO2 in order to conduct photosynthesis, which in turn releases oxygen.

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