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Old 07-26-2009, 06:50 PM
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Without making reference to any politicians, coworkers or neighbors whom you believe may fit the appearance, do you believe in these cryptozoology animals?

Try not to be snide: just say why you think or don't think they exist. If you don't believe, why do you think remarkably similar descriptions exist among different "native" peoples here and in Asia, going back for hundreds of years? These cultures were not in touch with one another; the stories were all independent. How do you explain the considerable number of sightings among modern people, many of credible backgrounds, like teachers, cops, etc.

I am dubious, but some footprints, much better defined and in proportion than some that have been shown by Bigfoot promoters, have been examined by scientsts and found to be too anatomically perfect to have been fakes. Hairs have been examined by an Army lab and found not to be from bears or any other known animal. And one specimen was captured, but escaped from a train in Canada in about the 1880's, if memory serves.

I know a guy who worked in a Texarkana gun shop when the Monster of Boggy Creek movies were being made. The shop owner was related to the movie maker, and my friend said that it was pretty common knowledge that "something" was around Fouk, AR then, and one guy who said that it attacked him was hospitalized with extensive injuries.

My friend saw the "footpints" from the movie and said that they were obvious fakes, too long for the width. But some other footprints actually have the tiny lines like fingerprints in them, and one scientist said they would be almost impossible to fake. The shape of the feet was also perfectly in keeping with what such an animal would be like. (There are certain differences from a human foot that size.)

Keep in mind that the okapi, the gorilla, and the chimp were all once thought to be mythical animals.

Be nice. I'm not nuts (I hope!) and I'm interested in what members think, especially those who live in the range of these creatures, if they're real. And I thought it might intrigue some open minds on a slow Sunday afternoon.

Now, for the inevitable question: which sidearm would you favor if you were travelling in bigfoot country, especially if there had been recent sightings? I'd lean toward a S&W M-629 with six inch barrel and 240 grain softpoint magnum loads. Keep in mind that Bigfoot country is also frequently bear country.

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Well, as it relates to the other thread...I'm wondering why some sasquatch devotees have never gone out and set up hundreds of trail cams in the remotest areas where sightings have occurred.

Personally, I can believe a large animal might not have been discovered yet, but only in remote locales. When I read about a bigfoot sighting in New Jersey or Florida I tend to think not.
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If and when they show me a "body" (dead or alive) , then I will believe...............and I'm not from Missouri.
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Saw a few things a few years ago in W.Broward that would make one wonder.Iguess about '75 or so there was a story about a cow with its head seperated. It didn't apear to be cut but seperated like between to trucks with chains. It was all over the news. they never figured out what happened. At least no one told me if they did. BTW there was a big cat rescue down the street and still is to this day.
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I don't think they exist.

I wish they did, so we could get off the "What handgun is best for bears" thing for a while.

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Get me in the right mood sometime and I'll tell you about the upright walking brown fur covered critter I watched for several minutes in the North Cascades back in 1969. Ain't seen one since but it sure gave me the creeps back then.
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Yes, I believe Bigfoot is one of many of God's Creatures we know very little about.
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Well, the aliens told me (in between probings) that they do in fact exist ...
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Back in the mid 70s I heard something in the woods near us, on the Suwannee River. I don't know what it was, but we were scared.

I don't believe so much as I can see the possibilies. I would not be surprised, if it did exist. And it is called a Skunk Ape here.
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I've read and watched about everything there is on this subject and on UFOs and to me there just isn't enough proof yet.
However, having said that, I realize that there are new species being discovered all the time and there are remote areas where a creature may exist that we are yet to find.
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A few years back I was off roading in the Pine Barrens with two other close friends, It was about 2 am, I was running 4 100W Aircraft landing lights on the front of my rover, Plus the regular head lights,,,When something passed about 20 yards ahead of me, I was leading, And my Pal Dean was behind me, We both saw it,,, A mountain lion in a hurry.
I spoke to the park rangers next visit in the day and they said that mountain lions were rhumered<sp to be there, But never a pic taken..........
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I don't believe these critters exist outside the vivid imaginations of poor observers and clever hoaxers. I hope they don't --- think of the habitat management ramifications of a secretive, large, primate with a CITES II endangered species listing. I'll change my mind when and if an actual specimen, dead or alive, is available for scrutiny and examination, and I'm not holding my breath.
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The referenced capture of a bigfoot is about some sort of incident that was actually reported in a newspaper about a century ago: "What is it? Strange creature captured above Yale" referring to British Columbia. The tale is they found an unconcious ape lying beside some rail tracks, a small one.
Even here in the northeast, at a slow but steady pace, reports continue to be made. Some are well documented, fairly recent, multiple witnessed, and very interesting to learn about. Some others are anything but. Back a century ago, there were areas in northern NH & Maine that most men chose to stay out of. "Wood Devil" is one of the terms that was used in this area. The Abenaki's believed they were real.
The way I figure it is this: If 99.5% of what we hear about bigfoot, UFOs, and other such fodder is scam, that leaves 1/2 a % that makes for some very interesting study.
I use the 1/2 a % figure but I tend to think its more like 95% of it is explainable in some way. When it comes to bigfoot or cryptozoology I try to keep an open mind.
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I'm a believer in possabilities. Bigfoot, aliens, Nessie or ghosts? Do they exist? I honestly don't know. But I like to believe it is possable. There are many things in this world that have yet to be explained.
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Real? In terms of the N. American ones, almost certainly. Can't say about the yetis.

The problem is how you'd deal with one. They might be an undsicovered great ape/proto human living feral in the wild. But... They might be simply inhabiting a parallel universe and intermittently travelling via a rift/flaw into ours, either accidentally or deliberately.

Reports of sizes and weights vary. The Michigan Dogman/Wisconsin Werewolf is around 150 - 200 pounds. But some reports are of 8 or 9 foot tall creatures that are quite muscular and heavy.

Most information suggests that Sasquatch are omnivores, but they will certainly eat meat. They have attacked humans before, sometimes in groups. They are either close to humans in intelligence, or possibly greater. There is also a question as to whether they have the ability to cloud minds or otherwise cloak themselves.

Beyond that, there have been reports of Sasquatch taking humans for mating purposes. Ending up a forest bride may well be worse than being eaten.

They've also been known to attack in groups, sometimes of six or more and throw rocks and otherwise use tools.

That would make them extremely dangerous. They might not even be the prey but rather the predator, hunting men like game for their own amusement.

If I were hunting one, I'd want a Heym double rifle in .470 NE. A double rifle gives the fastest second shot possible in a truly killing caliber and the Heym is about as affordable as doubles get. If possible, since Sasquatch will often attack at night, I'd want to try to get my rifle fitted with a thermal sight. Unlike conventional NVGs, it won't be clouded by fog or inclement weather - always a problem in the Pacific Northwest. I wouldn't want to go alone. Ideally, for a hunt, you're talking about a fair number of men, tracking dogs, and overhead aircraft using FLIR to try to identify the targets. It'd be more like war than any type of conventional big game hunting.

For protection? Probably a Wild West Guns Co Pilot in .45-70 loaded with specialty rounds from Garrett would be the most packable thing that I could think of. Ammo that would penetrate an elephant's skull should work if anything will. Any handgun will likely be a forlorn hope, but a 4" 629 also stoked with specialty loads from Garrett would be better than nothing and at least suffice to prevent becoming a forest bride. (A bit of googling will turn up reports of Sasquatch raping trees and cows. Poor cows...) If I could have a pack mule, then I'd take a FAL carbine alone. Why the pack mule? For all the spare mags.

I don't see an individual human having much of a chance unless it is a one off encounter with a single Sasquatch caught off guard.

If a long range shot presented itself, such as in actively hunting them down, then I'd want something like the expensive but very reliable Accuracy International AW series rifles in .338 Lapua. Even then, I'd honestly feel that I'd have the best chance of dropping one with elephant type power levels.
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None of the above are a problem in Michigan. I worry about Wendigos in the North woods though.
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None of the above are a problem in Michigan. I worry about Wendigos in the North woods though.
Michigan Dogman - has its own theme song even. Sasquatch has also been reported in Michigan, both LP and UP. The dogman might or might not be the same thing as the Wisconsin werewolf aka the "Beast of Bray Road".
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Sir, any scientist worth his salt will tell you that what we know is dwarfed by what we don't. I try to keep an open mind--all manner of strange things are possible--but I'm skeptical by nature. An actual specimen will have to turn up before I'll believe.

JMHO, FWIW.

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I spoke to the park rangers next visit in the day and they said that mountain lions were rhumered<sp to be there, But never a pic taken..........
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Up in NEPA, we have "rumored" mountain lions as well. The game commission denies their existence, but a few different people I know have seen them. Two of those people... me and my father. We were driving along one day when we saw a few cars and a game commission truck pulled off to the side. Some one had hit a mountain lion and they were dragging it off toward the truck. We saw it, no question. We slowed way down, so there was no doubt about it.

Another person (a friend of my GFs...) showed us a pictyre of one on their back deck! Yet...... they don't exist.....

Oh I forgot to mention...

I once took down a sasquatch with nothing but a spoon

Seriously though... I KNOW there are species out there we haven't discovered. That's proven time and time again when new species are found deep in jungles.

If the Vatican can say Aliens may exist because saying they don't would be like putting a limitation on God's power, I'm not about to say a bigfoot type creature doesn't exist. Aliens by the way I absolutely do believe exist somewhere out in that ginormous universe. I don't really think they come flying over houses at night abducting people to probe though.
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Living close to the Bray road area is always interesting, the prison I work at is even closer. During that time our officers were afraid to do perimeter checks, one even claimed to have been chased by a wolf (it turned out to be a large dog). We had a lot of Silver bullet tours (the Coors kind) nothing like a bunch of drunks looking for a unknown creature.

I lived in Klamath Falls Or. for awhile and heard alot about Bigfoot there too, and I knew a guy from the Ranger Bat at Ft.Lewis who swore they ran into one in the Yakima training grounds.

I enjoy watching the programs and reading about them, but I have never seen one except in bars at closing time.
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I have got to get me one of those spoons!

Seriously though, I want very hard to believe, but common sense rears it's ugly head. I follow reported sightings through the various websites, and can usually whittle out what I believe is credible from the wierd. For instance, one persons idea of "Deep Woods" dosen't hold up to anothers. Someone who is not used to being outdoors will look at a patch of woods @30 acres and think they're in the deep wilderness. To someone willing to take the time, a squirrel couldn't move around it with out being observed. I also like all the photos shot intentionally out of focus or without something for comparison. While there are credible photos and videos out there, all the hoaxs tear down their credibility.

It is a joke with my wife that when ever she finds me being "unproductive", my response is that I'm hunting Bigfoot.
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You're right about deep woods i knew a guy who got lost in a stand of trees only a 1/4 mile wide. I love going out in the deep woods, away from people and noise you can actually see the stars at night.


But i still haven't seen a Bigfoot, bears, Elk, Moose and even Badgers but no bigfoot.
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Back to the gun issue, Ruger used to run ads about a guy who hunted gorillas in the Congo in the 1960's. I'm guessing that this was for museum habitat groups, and it was evidently still legal to shoot them then.

He had a Super Blackhawk and a .44 Magnum carbine. He shot at least one big gorilla, quite successfully. Others have shot grizzly bears with .44 Magnums, and I know of at least one killed by a S&W M-66 .357 and unspecified 158 grain .357 loads.

I suspect that most deer cartridges and rifles would suffice, although I'd like something larger than, say a .243. I doubt if more than a .375 H&H Magnum is needed.

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None of the above are a problem in Michigan. I worry about Wendigos in the North woods though.
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I believe Bigfoot could very well exist. I find it strange that more hard evidence doesn't exist though. But that doesn't mean the creature itself doesn't exist. I have never seen a Bigfoot, but I've seen enough other "controversial" things to make me believe anything is possible.
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I think you are right, any just about any deer type cartridge would do the trick, I feel safe with 06 in the woods from just about everything that inhabits them.


There is no telling what you might find out there, about 10 years ago they shot a hippo up north it escaped from someplace and some guy ran over a kangaroo. He had it stuffed, when he called the DNR they told him to sober up and call back. He insisted they come out and by George "thats a kangaroo" no fines for him because Wisconsin doesn't have a kangaroo season, they just have no idea how it got there.

If I was in the woods and saw a bigfoot i don't think i would shoot it, unless it was attacking me. I figure if I leave it alone it will leave me alone.
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Beyond that, there have been reports of Sasquatch taking humans for mating purposes. Ending up a forest bride may well be worse than being eaten.
Yep- truly the fate worse than death. Plus, after being brided (brideled?), they still might kill ya and eat ya.






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In this case, I'd recommend using a ballistic log to remain silent. There might be others in the area, possibly cloaked, and it won't scare the bears.
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Hey T-Star, where are you located? I've lived in the Texarkana area all my life, so I'm well aware of the Fouke Monster legend. I don't buy any of the bigfoot stories. No bodies, no dung, no remains = no proof. Man, I sure miss Ken's House of Guns, there's no place like that around here now. I don't buy that UFOs are aliens either. How can you believe that all the governments in the world are conspiring together on anything?
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I have a friend who swears he's seen a large "ape-like" creature in Central Florida in the 80' and I remember stories from when I lived in S. Fla in the 70's of the skunk ape. Enough to keep me out of the woods when I little.
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As far as the Bigfoot, yeti and other primates, I'm a non believer. As far as other species that exist but we don't know about--- I think there are insects, fish and maybe some mammals that are yet unclassified and unknown. Areas of south america and asia are still unexplored even today.
If I'm going to a bigfoot shootout-- I'll take a 6 1/2 inch 500 for a handgun and I'll pull out my 'bear roller' a 50 alaskan leveraction that shoots a 535 grain woodleigh at 2100 fps for 5300 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. It also holds 8 rounds in the tube plus 1 in the chamber. If it rolls bigfoot like it does everything else I've shot with it-- no worries!
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Or they ran when they saw Leonard Nimoy when he was hosting "In search of" Don't forget Marlin Perkins went in seach of yeti and didn't find it either, that turned out to be an ape skull.
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Good idea- you will need to take one with you since you cannot buy one outside your state of residence.
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He had a Super Blackhawk and a .44 Magnum carbine. He shot at least one big gorilla, quite successfully. Others have shot grizzly bears with .44 Magnums, and I know of at least one killed by a S&W M-66 .357 and unspecified 158 grain .357 loads.

I suspect that most deer cartridges and rifles would suffice, although I'd like something larger than, say a .243. I doubt if more than a .375 H&H Magnum is needed.
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I don't think one can have too much gun given the risks involved.

Most serious Sasquatch researchers who believe in the "feral" population theory, will tell you that the creatures are communicating with each other. They use either log thumping or verbal calls to alert one another and monitor human intrusions. Aside from chance encounters where one finds a Sasquatch picking berries (or raping a tree) who's distracted, they seem to be seen by humans only when they want to be seen. In a fair number of such cases, they charge.

In a reported case where around a half dozen, possibly more, laid siege to a cabin, the residents had .30-30 rifles and shotguns, yet no bodies of slain creature were found. Sure they could have dragged away their casualties, but the attack continued despite the gunfire suggesting that anything short of big game cartridges fail to inspire fear into the creatures.

That's assuming that they have a solid enough physical form while in our universe - if not a feral population but instead visitors - to even be killed. Since they eat, cow molest, and so on, it would suggest that they are solid enough while here, but if they had the ability to fade in and out at will, it would possible that bullets would simply pass through the target while they are phasing between the two universes.

As many a professional Sasquatch hunter will observe - "You can't use too much gun." Except for Crazy Lonnie of Parson's Bayou Louisiana who only observes "Dey be et you sawn, don be gone in da swap" and will speak no further on the matter, though his thousand yard stare and missing eye speak of having gazed upon the horror that awaits.

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Is one of them named "Scotty"?

Easily defeted by a tinfoil helmet and special space trooper goggles.

Do they attack on line, or do they fire and maneuver? We need to know this.

You are going to need at least three double rifles, and two stalwart gunbearers. (see above about groups of six or more)

Finally! We can settle this issue once and for all. Check DNR records and see if bigfoots(bigfeet?) are buying hunting licenses.......

Yep- truly the fate worse than death. Plus, after being brided (brideled?), they still might kill ya and eat ya.

Tell the mule to save the last bullet for herself.

In this case, I'd recommend using a ballistic log to remain silent. There might be others in the area, possibly cloaked, and it won't scare the bears.
All excellent points. Some inviduals do claim to have had in depth conversations with their neighborhood Sasquatches, and claim that the creatures can understand and speak English, albeit in a "growling" manner. A few people have even claimed to have had more intimate relationships - either consentual or not so consentual with the creatures. These reports have indicated that the creatures have names, and have indeed been willing to adapt easily understood human names to make conversations easier. As to where they'd have learned English, one can only speculate, perhaps they have televisons. If so, the digital switch over may have contributed to their hostility to humans, since - being unable to get converter boxes - they can no longer watch Maury in the morning.

Defeating Sasquatch mind powers - if such exists, since expert opinion is divided - would likely require one to find an Indian (American, or sub continent there of, either would probably work) Shaman/mystic. Or when hunting yetis, perhaps a Tibetan monk. But not the Dahli Lama himself, as yeti hunting would be beneath his exhaulted post. A lesser shaman, monk or mystic, but still trained in the art of resisting Sasquatch mind magic. Solemn nod.

Perhaps some sherpas could be trained to do double duty as gun bearers. If not, random college age interns, not too bright ones, of an appropriate ethnic mix (which must include the girl with the heart of gold, the bad boy, the gothic girl, and the guy from the hood, with someone from Brooklyn thrown in for good measure) should be selected and encouraged to do things like seperate, not pay attention to their surroundings, and go out alone at night. Also to investigate any strange sounds or abandoned buildings with blood splattered wallls.

There would be a risk of even technological tracking means failing, assuming that Sasquatch could control his body temperature and what spectrums of light allow him to be visible. Could we really afford to assume that? Perhaps best to get the shaman and the thermal imaging.

Among those reported Bigfoot attacks involving multiple adversaries, most take place under cover of darkness. Some are preceded by a barrage of rocks, often quite large, to intimidate and subdue resistance. Others simply find the unfortunate victim dragged off, still in their sleeping bag, taken to a secluded forest lair for a terrible fate. Some indications suggest that females and off spring will make themselves visible and attempt to attract the attention of humans by presenting a more harmless approach. They will then attempt to lure or distract the humans while the others attack.

All the while tree banging and calls are used to coordinate and perhaps even call for reinforcements. A tactical reload would almost certainly be warranted even if one managed to kill a single creature happened upon at random. Perhaps one of the respected tactical training schools can offer a double rifle class to address this if there is sufficient demand...

Good point though, always best to save one round for the mule too.
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Sorry.. It can only be carried by someone with a proper spoon permit. Getting the permit costs an arm and a leg and takes about three years of paper work and formal hearings plus thousands of hours of logged training. Open carry or concealed, you still need the permit.
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"In a reported case where around a half dozen, possibly more, laid siege to a cabin, the residents had .30-30 rifles and shotguns, yet no bodies of slain creature were found. Sure they could have dragged away their casualties, but the attack continued despite the gunfire suggesting that anything short of big game cartridges fail to inspire fear into the creatures."

I'm not willing to totally discount the possibility of Bigfoot, but this just sounds like a case of bad 'shine.
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""It can only be carried by someone with a proper spoon permit.""

I was an aircraft electician in the NAR, about a hundred years ago, does that count?

Between the homeless people (zombies in disguise), Key deer (pit bulls in disguise), Gays (not that there's anything wrong with that), and those darned 6 legged cats (aliens from sector 17 in the gamma globulen galaxy), it's pretty scary.



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"In a reported case where around a half dozen, possibly more, laid siege to a cabin, the residents had .30-30 rifles and shotguns, yet no bodies of slain creature were found. Sure they could have dragged away their casualties, but the attack continued despite the gunfire suggesting that anything short of big game cartridges fail to inspire fear into the creatures."

I'm not willing to totally discount the possibility of Bigfoot, but this just sounds like a case of bad 'shine.
While I wrote with tonge somewhat in cheek, everything I referenced in passing is indeed part of "Sasquatch lore" including that incident.

I'm going from memory, but basically it was a group of guys in a cabin that claimed that they were attacked by a number of the creatures throwing rocks and otherwise rattling/banging about. Having firearms, the men did fire, but apparently without killing anything. Since they were shooting at night, and were apparently rattled, it's understandable why they might have missed. Or maybe they didn't...

One can never really go far wrong under the "use a big gun" theory in most any discussion. And against a possibly nine foot, tool using, muscular primate... I honestly would go with classic dangerous game calibers, which means ".40 plus". The intelligence factor, of unknown potential, would make one more dangerous than any other animal save humans, and humans are relatively think skinned. Real reports do mention a "charge" and that some of the creatures reported are quite violent.

Loren Coleman - who's sort of a respected figure in this type of thing, in so far as one can be - discussed the cow and tree molesting at one point, and the woman who claims to talk to the local Sasquatch (and I think leaves scraps out for them) has been featured in several programs on the topic. The mating angle features in a surprising and perhaps disturbing number of cases. (Bigfoot wants our women... and our men too...) Some of these go back to stories from the pioneer days, native tales, and up through the 30s to this day. Several "adult" films of the '70s (another time period when the paranormal was popular) dealt with the subject in a rather lurid (and sometimes almost unwatchable) manner, but the stories are as "real" as are any of the reports.

The parallel worlds theory is actually growing in acceptance these days in terms of Quantum theory and some Native Americans do have mythology related to Sasquatch that seems to treat them as being something not entirely of this world rather than a normal part of the natural environment and imbued with special powers of some sort. That's part of what some of the locals say about the Yetis as well - that they can somehow cloud minds.

Really, it might be a sounder scientific footing that creatures wander in from a different universe as compared to an undiscovered breeding population (with no real fossil record, bodies, etc) remaining undiscovered to this day in North America. At least there is some theoretical science and math to back up the possibilities of things/creatures wandering in from somewhere else (accidentally or deliberately).
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