well got my grip pin and new recoil spring and new S&W straight grip also 9 shot magazine all in one place at one time and finally got to go out and shoot my 1086 once more but this time with new parts & stuff
anyway after some help from ya all with information and such I went to friends property and though it was pouring rain I still shot 2 win 175 grain st hp and 2 win subsonic 180 grain 5 bitterroot 180 grain jhp and next mag with 9 brv 180 hp with 1 in pipe I know not alot of shooting but got good and wet and really enjoyed shooting that thing and by the way it did need new recoil spring .. well thanks for all your help and this great site.. David D PS almost forgot everything worked great and nice group 21 feet satisfied for now