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08-14-2010, 11:48 AM
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S&W no.3 nickel plated in .442 eley calibre
Hey everyone
I come across an old S&W no.3 in a odd calibre 442 eley ,Has anyone seen one of these b4 .Its a nickel finish and is same as my other no 3 only its in 44 russian.I will post pics when I pick it up
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08-14-2010, 12:12 PM
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If original, that may be a one-off special order! Isn't that a rimfire cartridge? Does it have target sights? Definitely worth a factory letter to see who, where and when it shipped.
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08-14-2010, 12:42 PM
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Im not sure but there sure was a lot of fat (big calibre) rimfires back in them days,the sights are the standard blade at the front and the weenie little rear sight on the lever to break open.
I wouldnt think its too common of a choice of calibre,I am buying it so as soon as I get it Ill post it and more info. Its in ok condition ..I love the style of these in the hand,pity S&W only make one now and its way too pricey new here anyhow
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08-15-2010, 01:33 AM
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A .442 Eley ??? .442 is a centerfire Webley cartridge originating in England in 1868 for the RIC ( Royal Irish Constabulary) . It's the same cartridge as the .44 Webley. many New model No. 3s shipped to England and the Colonies were chambered in the .44 Webley, so your gun's lineage wold be proper for Australia. Ed SWCA 15
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08-15-2010, 01:35 PM
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I looked it up in my cartridge conversions book, and agree with Ed. The good news is that it looks like you can make brass for it by cutting .44 Magnums in half (roughly) and sizing. Bullet diameter is a bit larger at .436, but soft lead bullets for a .44 Special or .44 Russian (.430) should shoot ok.
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08-16-2010, 06:53 AM
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Gday loyalaussie, in the absense of a pic, what is the barrel length, what is marked on the barrel and any other stampings you can find. This cartridge originated in 1868 as a blackpowder cartridge obviously. Loaded originally with a 200 or 220 grain bullet behind 15/19g of blackpowder. Power wise she is about the same as the 44 S&W American cartridge. Ed is absolutely correct with the RIC observation. I would not wish to shoot this revolver unless you really know what you are doing. Of course have it checked out by a gunsmith if you intend to shoot it. Original velocity of this cartridge was about 700fps with 220g loading.
Look forward to a further report.
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