I keep thinking about installing an RRA 2-stage match trigger in my 15-22. I have them in three other rifles and the idea of having my 15-22 set up the same as my business rifles intrigues me. Has anyone else installed one of these? If so, how has it performed in the 15-22?

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HRF

I have a RRA trigger in my 15-22. It works great. I have them in two of my AR15's also, a .6x45 and a 6.8 SPC. I have a stock trigger in a .223 that responded very well to a 15 minute trigger job but it still isn't up to par with the RRA's.

Since I bought the 15.22 I have shot it much more than the AR's which means I have the same trigger characteristics in my plinking/small game rifle as my varmint gun and my deer rifle, which is what you are aiming at doing. I expect that this will serve to sharpen my trigger response when I draw down on a deer or coyote this season.

I'm an old guy who spent many years hunting exclusively with bolt guns. Over the past half-dozen years I have developed a love affair with black rifles so a lot of my other rifles have been spending a lot of time sleeping in the safe!

I guess the question is, when you do the trigger, do you keep the S&W spring set?

Which RRA trigger?

Seems like Smith would come out with a decent trigger for this gun (Or the MP15-T which I like a lot as well). Great guns, poor trigger, amazing.

And I too shot only bolt action until a couple years ago, though I only had one (more pistols till the eyes went and cannot see iron sights).

I like the Black Guns, got a Robinson Arms XCR because I liked it and good reports. Great gun, most run good, some have issues. Factory support goes back and forth for response. Best advice seems to be if issues, send the whole thing in.

Looking to get the 7.62x39 to use the AK ammo (AK is an interesting gun to, worth a thought if no other reason than to get the feel and understanding on it.

I've got one in mine that I put in after cussing the stock trigger numerous times. Difference is incredible.

The RRA trigger comes with springs. It is commonly referred to as a "RRA two-stage" or "RRA Match" trigger. It is available from most distributors who handle AR accessories. Brownell's has it listed at $120. but shopping around may turn up one for $20. less.

Some don't like the two-stage as the first stage initially feels like excessive creep would feel in a single stage trigger. You will find that within a short time that initial take-up won't even be noticed and the second stage is sooooo smooth!!

My experience with off the shelf AR's is that most manufacturers do as Smith and Wesson does... they use a stock GI fire control group that usually sucks.

I'm also well beyond being able to use iron sights effectively. I have optics on all my long guns, and a laser or optics on some pistols.

I guess I am more curious about the springs being tuned to what the caliber (action/ function) is. the .22 is on the second (or third) trigger springs for the MP15-22. So is it better to use OEM Smith springs with the RRA trigger?

I don't mind the two stage, I just hate the awful trigger. Find in a true combat weapon, but the .22 is not, so I would have thought a better setup.

XCR has a non AR type trigger, but equally as bad as the AR. The new ones have a match grade trigger ($125 for the upgrade, so decent price for whats now a really fine trigger). It comes standard on it now (or course). Makes it a real nice gun, worth a look. Really has the feel of a modern AK (I have an AK as well so that's a direct comparison)

I have an optic for standby use (hoping never to use it) on the XCR, but I put a scope on it for target shooting (I practice with the optic each session as well).

My response to this would be that even though S&W has seemed to add "new" springs and even if they are "tuned" they are still installed on their stock trigger and thus theoretically tuned to it. Likewise, since the Rock River springs are installed and sold on their trigger why wouldn't they be the best fit for it.

Does anyone really know if the FCG springs in the newest 15-22's are really changed or improved from earlier models? Or if the blue springs have anything different about them than a coat of paint?

When my rifle came back from the factory it had the blue springs but the trigger was just as ****** as it was with the originals. I realize that much of it's grittiness and creep was due to poor fitting bearing surfaces but with the new springs it still seemed just as stiff and heavy as the original I wonder if the blue paint is purely cosmetic and designed to make us feel better because we have the "new and improved version!"

When I first got my 15-22, it had the standard sandy, rough feeling, very heavy trigger. When I got it back from S&W, I was very pleasantly surprised that the trigger felt like it had had a custom makeover. I would guess that it has half the pull weight of the original and alot less takeup in the 1st stage. My BushMaster has the factory target trigger on it and the 15-22's trigger feels quite similar to the Bushmaster.

I thought that the blue spring update was for reliability, not for a 'better' or smoother trigger. My brother's MOE 15-22 came with the blue springs and felt just as bad as my 1st gen. Now, they both feel better running the JP reduced power yellow springs. I imagine that the RRA trigger set would be an improvement over our improved triggers.

Why don't mfr's. install a better (lighter and smoother) trigger-pull system; is it cost? I've got a Ruger also, and they're notorious for a ****** trigger. Seems they just keep the aftermarket people in business, which isn't a bad thing.

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The factory trigger on the 15-22 is a single stage. The slack you feel isn't take up, it's creep prior to the sear being released.

The Rock River Two-Stage trigger worked wonderfully in my M&P15-22 but I ain't spending $120 on a trigger for a $400 plinker when either the $9 JP yellow springs or no-cost "15 Minute" trigger spring alteration work very well. No, not as well. But the money saved buys over 3000 rounds of .22LR.

-- Chuck

While not a .22, the Robinson Arms XCR now comes with a match grade trigger. Its very good.

You can get RRA at Eagle Armory (think that's right) for $85 including shipping. If I am going to use the .22 I want it to shoot well, part of that is low cost substitute for .223. I got mine at a reasonable cost, so I don't mine, and will eventually get a dedicated scope for it.