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625 Colt
Is there a 625 in .45 Colt. If so, I am interested in one, if they don't have the over-size throats. Do they have them and what are they?
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the 625-9 is 45 Colt, and there are others
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The 625-5 is also in 45lc. If I remember correctly the p&r 25-5 had the problem with the oversized cylinders. Once they moved past the p&r the cylinders were corrected. The 625-5 should all be correct re cylinder size
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What's the 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt, -13?
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The 25-13 is a blued .45 colt mountain gun. I have one and love it!
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Thanks Guys.
Can anyone show a picture?
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What's the 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt, -13?
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My 625-9 is a Mountain Gun in 45 Colt
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OK, thanks!
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M29,
There were also a few runs of about 1500 each of 5" full lug .45 Colt 625s in the early 90s, light and heavy Hunter PC 625 .45 Colts and the 1st .45 Colt Mountain Gun was a 625-6. They're all in the SCSW.
All .45 Colts made recently enough to have a 3 letter serial prefix have the tighter correct throats.
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10-25-2010, 05:32 PM
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Thanks good to know. I am thinking of trading my 4" 629 to a 625 since I have my new 5" 29 Classic.
I may put it in the classified, but wasn't sure of the model number.
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Heck yeah.....!!! Long Colt......
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I've seen pics of 3" 625's in .45LC, what series would that be? Looks like it would make an interesting carry gun if you like big bores. How hard are they to find?
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I have a Model 624 with 4" barrel and that is really all the "Mountain Gun" I "need".
However, I believe that I might just "fall off the wagon" if a .45 Colt Mountain Gun presented itself for a reasonable price. NO! NO! NO! --- Oh well, maybe (:>)).
The .45 Colt (even with the "limited" strength of the S&W's) is a very desirable caliber even for those that really use their handguns. Check out John Linebaugh's take on it:
Linebaugh's Custom Sixguns - The .45 Colt - Dissolving the Myth, Discovering the Legend
You have to read the whole article - it is mostly about the Ruger but details a number of big game animals taken by his wife with a .45 Colt at 900 fps. Further, his daily carry is an S&W .45 Colt. You should NOT use "Ruger only" loads in an S&W but a proper bullet (Lyman 454424 or RCBS 45-270-SAA) at reasonable velocities will fill a pick up with deer and elk if you do your job right.
Addendum:
I just found "THE" article on the S&W .45 Colt:
Gunnotes...Smith & Wesson Mod 25-5
FWIW
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Another question; are all 625 round butts? Also, what is the difference in a 625 Mtn Gun anther another 4" 625?
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All 625 are rd butts and the difference is the barrel has a slimmer profile
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And the cylinders are chamfered a little bit.
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Marsh;
Here is a picture of a standard 4" 625 (a .45 ACP in this case but from the side they look the same):
This particular one is a 625-8 Jerry Miculek Special in .45 ACP.
FWIW
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M29,
There were also a few runs of about 1500 each of 5" full lug .45 Colt 625s in the early 90s
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And they are sweet!
625-5 Classic 5"
625-6 pre-lock and pre-MIM Mtn Gun
Together
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Sweet indeed.
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Top below is a 2001 made 625-7 MG my wife bought new as a gift for me 8/02 - it would be my first-ever S&W. The 1996-vintage 625-6 MG below it was traded for 5/06 in LN condition, save a horrid trigger job. Said trigger job, thankfully just a bent hammer leaf and clipped rebound spring, was easily reversed with some new Wolff springs. Still, the much higher mileage of my first S&W, the 625-7 MG, may have something to do with it, but it certainly has a nicer trigger. MIM is fine in my book. The older MG is my 'range' gun, hopefully extending that original S&W's life.
I have two gripes re the 625MG's. Firstly - all MG's have black/black sights - hard for my 'mature' eyes to pick up. Secondly - the laser-etched barrel markings - "Mountain Gun" & ".45 Colt" - fade with any cleaning - and a metal polish will erase them! Roll imprinting would have been nice. Still, a S&W with 'Colt' emblazoned on it's barrel is neat. And - my first love in revolvers were .45 Colts. Sadly, that first MG chased my others so-chambered away. The second one's arrival spelled death to all of the remainders, .454 SRH, .45 RH, & .45 BH, Bisley, Vaquero, etc, alike. My beloved .45 Colt - and all I have are the pair of MG's and a 24" octagon SS Puma M1892 in it. But - they are all I need. Those MG's have super triggers in DA & SA - and are more accurate than the Rugers they replaced.
If something happened to mine, I'd buy current production examples - if there were any!
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If something happened to mine, [Mountain Guns] I'd buy current production examples - if there were any!
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There are still new 625 .45 Colt Mountain Guns yet to be sold. There are several on Gun Broker.
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WFR,
If that heavy old 625-5 weighs down your collection too much I'd give it a loving home.
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625-5 SDS!
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Well after all the good info you guys have given me, I think the 5" 625 Classic is the pick of the liter, but none of those are "dogs".
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625-7 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt sporting Spegels.
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I have a 625-11. It's a .45 Colt with scandium alloy frame, stainless steel cylinder, 1 7/8 inch barrel and fixed sights.
I consider it the ultimate snubby and use it as a carry weapon at times. Only 103 of them were made for Lew Horton several years back; they rarely come up for sale.
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See the essay on 625s in 45 Colt.
I've bumped it up for you.
Good luck in your search.
All but one of my 44 magnums have gone,
and I now own 11 S&W revolvers chambered in 45 Colt.
It's a pretty amazing cartridge that begs the question:
why was the 44 magnum really created?
Regards , Allen F.
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Amen.....save two...............
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Originally Posted by Allen-frame
See the essay on 625s in 45 Colt.
I've bumped it up for you.
Good luck in your search.
All but one of my 44 magnums have gone,
and I now own 11 S&W revolvers chambered in 45 Colt.
It's a pretty amazing cartridge that begs the question:
why was the 44 magnum really created?
Regards , Allen F.
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That's what I'm talking about......Same with me but I do have two .44 mags left.......They sit in the safe a bit while the Long Colts get all the attention........Don't tell though....they will be even harder to come by when people figure it out............
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.... .45 Colt.
It's a pretty amazing cartridge that begs the question:
why was the 44 magnum really created?
Regards , Allen F.
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I'm sure you recall that the .44 mag. was created to magnumize the N frame which couldn't be done with .45 Colt. In the 80s a friend who had access to all kinds of measuring tools at work measured the thickness of the metal at the bottom of his 25-5's cylinder stop notches. They varied form 0.015" to 0.017" and that was on a cylinder that was warranty installed to correct oversize chamber throats. More recently made cylinders with long stop notches would be even weaker due to enlargment of the thin area. N frames in both .44 mag. and .45 Colt are desirable, but for different purposes. In my humble opinion the .44 mag. is the gold standard for deer hunting while the .45 Colts have more novelty or collector value. As defensive guns the .45 Colts get pretty stiff competition from the .45 ACPs. Regardless, I'd love to have one of the previously pictured .45 Colt 5" full lugs.
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WFR,
If that heavy old 625-5 weighs down your collection too much I'd give it a loving home.
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At 41.2 oz. empty and 48 oz. loaded it's really not that bad!
I think I'll hang onto it.
It's actually going to the deer stand with me this year and if one gets close enough it's going down.
One of my 625 Mtn Guns actually killed a deer prior to me owning it. I think he used a 255 or 265gr Corbon and the deer did not travel over 30 yds after the shot.
I love the .45 Colt!
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This is a 625-6 with the slab barrel, integral scope base and barrel weight system. They may be a little difficult to find. However, if you do, with the right load you can expect to get groups in the 1.5-2" range at 50 yards with any decent jacketed load. With a RCBS 45-270-SAA bullet and HS-6 it hovers around 1" at that distance.
I also have a 25-13, the blued version 4" Mountain Gun, that shoots pretty well too and may be easier to find. If the lock doesn't bother you, that is; it sure don't bother me the way this gun shoots! The throats are the correct size.
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