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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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Old 12-13-2010, 01:08 AM
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I have had for awhile one of the above, '05 4th, original blueing approximately 90%. Standard fixed sights with 6" barrel, service stocks with gold medallions, all in all a nice old firearm.
Here is my question:
This gun has no S&W markings on it, other than the barrel, neither the right nor left side has the emblem. Also it doesn't have 'Made in USA' below the cylinder on the right side.
All S/N match, and it has a 'fouling recess' for lack of a better term, on the top strap between cylinder and forcing cone.
According to SCSW, it should have a medallion, but they mention thier example only had the emblem on the left side with no other markings, leading me to believe it wasn't marked 'Made in USA' either.
Has anyone else got a 'clean' example like this?
S/N is 807xx, which indicates it was made before the improved heat treating era.
I handload for this gun, but limit it to mild loads, shoots fairly accurate with the tiny pinched style fixed rear and my eyes.
Any help on this?
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This is a 1918-1919 gun - right after WW1. I don't know if this was the
period when there was no logo on some guns, but I do that that such
a period existed.

Either way, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Default .32-20 or .32 WCF very similar to yours

Smuthhound, my recent acquisition is similarly unmarked. Only barrel marked and is nickel plated with 5" barrel. Gold Medallion Stocks. S/N 831XX is younger than yours. Not much of a contribution but there is at least two of them.
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Smithhound: make that three similar .32-20's. I have a target model 5" ser. no. 83440. This one does not have the fouling cup under topstrap. No MADE IN USA, no LOGO, recessed gold medalion grips, smooth front and back strap (made before they were grooved).
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Well, thank you all very much. It never bothered me, just found it curious that it would be naked.
The knowledge I've gained over the years belonging to this site is invaluable. After 30 years of acquiring/collecting Smith&Wessons' I think I know a thing or two, but I never cease to learn here.
Point in case:
I had thought for years that this particular gun had been refinished, I knew it dated to the time frame mentioned but the blueing was too strong and I'd always wondered. Then the other day there was some discussion over a nickeled revolver dating to the same time period, some thought it was refinished and others not.
What finally cleared up the question in my mind about my .32wcf was when it was pointed out that the rebound slide stop should be rounded instead of polished flat confirmed that mine was a factory finish.
That's the kind on information that is passed on here, small details like that, that would take a lifetime to learn are just a question away.
Thank you all so much for your time on this.
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Smithhound: Make that four similar .32-20's.
I have a 6" Target Model S/N 76910.All matching.
This one does have the fouling cup under topstrap.
No MADE IN USA, no LOGO, matching recessed gold medalion grips, smooth front and back strap.
This one was shipped on July 9, 1917.
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