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12-26-2010, 09:00 PM
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SW9VE at the range
I'm up to about 300 rounds with the SW9VE. I don't know if is breaking in or I'm getting used to it, but my group size is definitely getting smaller. I'm still not as good with the 9VE as I am with my Glock 21, but it is getting closer.
BTW, I returned the outer sear block return spring to the original just because I don't believe that the pen spring made enough of a difference to justify any potential problem that may arise.
300 rounds, no malfunctions of any type.
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12-27-2010, 12:48 AM
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Social D,
Great news about your Sigma. I have put 1000 rounds through my SW9VE. Trigger is not a problem for me. It was stiff at first, but I figured it out. Just keep shooting your Sigma. It can only get better.
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01-03-2011, 02:35 PM
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The wife and I took our new Sigma 9mm to the range for the first time Sunday; fired 150 rounds through it and had one shot not load properly, just needed to rerack the slide and it was fine. I guess we're so used to our S&W J frames but the trigger pull seemed easy to me.
The wife was always in the red and even had a few bullseyes; I had a little issue getting the dots to line up on target because of focus issues with my glasses but worked it out.
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01-13-2011, 02:11 PM
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Lucky you. My Sigma shoots badly to the left.
I just need to learn how to knock,pry,hammer the rear sight over.
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01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
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Airman, it might be you. Do some ball and dummy work, and work on a nice straight-back trigger pull and follow-through. Most fixed-sight handguns aren't off much. That said, I usually shoot a touch left and dial in a little correction. But 99% of the time it's just me not getting as good a letoff as I should. Shooting is simple; it's just not easy.
For some reason I could never shoot any Glock for beans with the "green twig" trigger pull. But the Sigma does very well for me.
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01-13-2011, 03:40 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is "ball and dummy work"?
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01-18-2011, 10:36 PM
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I learned the trigger pull on a BB gun in the back yard, so the pull is good when I 'm careful. You're right - straight back and follow on.
I don't know "ball and dummy' either but I can relate to ball ammo and the dummy on the trigger.
It's my friend who showed me the POA/POI difference, which convinced me to punch the rear sight over. I'll learn how good I did when I get to the range. It would be nice to have one of those bore laser lights.
Thanks again, guys.
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01-27-2011, 09:32 AM
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I am not an expert but I agree on the possibility of technique being the most common reason for left and down hits. My son-in-law has this problem with his Glock. It is a common occurrence when firing a double action pistol. One has the tendency to place the finger on the trigger as they would on a single action weapon and then not squeeze straight back. Just a suggestion, but try balancing an empty cartridge on the top of your barrel and dry firing the gun. Try to keep the cartridge from falling when you fire it. It is just a way of smoothing out your technique. Also, use your weak hand to maintain more support and try to firm up your grip while slowly squeezing the trigger. Something that helps me is to take a breath, aim above the target and as I release/expel the breath, allow your aim to lower onto the target and squeeze about halfway through the breath out, once you are on target. If you want to be absolutely sure that your sight is not off or is off, try bench support aiming and firing and see if your sight is still off that much.
I realize that these are just the basics, but sometimes I find that I have to go back and repeat these techniques if it has been a while since I have been shooting. At least until it all becomes automatic. I have a tendency to fire to the left when I have been absent for a while.
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01-27-2011, 10:18 AM
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Ball and Dummy work
I use something similar when teaching friends how to shoot. I only have semi-autos so I have to do a little slight of hand and I tell them that the pistol is loaded. It is a great tool to demonstrate how much they are flinching when firing live rounds.
pistol-training.com Ball & Dummy Drill
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01-27-2011, 07:08 PM
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Brilliant, gotta try that!
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01-27-2011, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
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I use something similar when teaching friends how to shoot. I only have semi-autos so I have to do a little slight of hand and I tell them that the pistol is loaded. It is a great tool to demonstrate how much they are flinching when firing live rounds.
pistol-training.com Ball & Dummy Drill
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I do this with both with my revolvers on every range outing. I do about 4 cylinders worth. Great drill!!
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01-28-2011, 09:01 PM
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Shooting Range Today
Today I reached the 1400 round mark through my SW9VE. Best range visit since owning my Sigma. I used 10 ring targets and bunched up rounds very well at 15 yards. Sigma continues to perform nicely. My friend commented on accuracy. He shoots the Glock 17. Sigma's 10lb trigger pull to the Glocks 5.5lb pull. I shot both with great accuracy. Even his S&W 357 Mag 686.
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01-30-2011, 10:06 PM
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I find myself flinching on a misfire or FTF. Ah-hah! Gotta work on that.
Love that Sigma. Trouble is, it isn't mine.
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01-30-2011, 10:30 PM
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Yup, I find that being able to not flinch is the biggest key to shooting well.
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01-31-2011, 04:17 AM
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SocialD, I agree with you. Anticipating recoil seems to be a problem with some shooters. I think we have all experienced it at one time or another.
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01-31-2011, 09:12 PM
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I find that the two biggest ways to over come flinching are: 1) convince yourself that it is going to misfire, 2) more range time.
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02-01-2011, 11:31 AM
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I find that the two biggest ways to over come flinching are: 1) convince yourself that it is going to misfire, 2) more range time.
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3) Pull the trigger with one deliberate motion. Don't tease it, baby it or try to stage it. Pull straight back until it won't pull no more, and don't think about the BANG.
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