I always thought that immunity applied but the Pakistani's dont agree. Police confirmed that the men were intent on robbing him.


U.S. official faces murder charges in Pakistan - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan - msnbc.com

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Sadly, there are parts of this country that would arrest you for defending yourself too...

In other news, the U.S. State Dept is now demanding the Diplomat be released. U.S. demands release of diplomat who killed 2 - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan - msnbc.com

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"... shall not be infringed."

Anyone who works or visits many of these countries needs to understand one thing. As the preacher said to the (black) sheriff in Blazing Saddles, "Son, you're on your own". And that can apply to Mexico, South America, Asia, etc. If you need a vacation stick with Western Europe, Britain, Canada, or stay in the US.

Well, the UK, Canada,and most of Europe also deny one the right to self defense. I think Switzerland may be the primary exception. If Swissman sees this, maybe he'll comment.

Some guy in Canada got charged a couple of weeks ago for shooting two punks trying to set his house on fire, I think. Someone posted about it here, but I didn't read the entire article.

Australia and New Zealand also aren't too friendly to the concept of being able to protect yourself, and I'd avoid most of our NE states, too. Probably Californa, also.

What we have in our better states may be unique in all the world, which is mostly a bad place. I hope that our government will improve, and it needs to. But the US is still a wonderful nation, in most areas.

T-Star

So what's the bottom line?How much is this gonna cost us to get him home?

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Clearly, he hung around- wrong move.

He should have booked it back to the embassy, and a ride out of the country ASAP!

He should have known that in any other country where he isn't a citizen, and he uses deadly self-defense, the natives aren't going to like it too well. Doubly so for a country in which the majority of the population hates us as a people and nation.

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just a hunch, i think they'll hold him awhile and then give him back to the u.s. after the pakastani citizen uproar dies down a little.

Kinda limiting ..... must be tough being scared of the world.

Considerable moolah, baksheesh or mordida will soothe the savage beast...at your expense.

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Nogoodnamesleft - It's not a matter of being "afraid" to visit countries such as Mexico, I call it common sense. Many of these countries rely heavily on tourist dollars and any negative stories reported in the media hurt the economy. Hence most of them don't get reported. There are muggings, rapes, robberys, etc that you will never hear about because the media is controlled by the same factions that run the tourist industry that provide finances to the government. And many of these beautiful beaches you see advertised in the media are guarded by armed security who tell people don't leave their hotel after dark. Some vacation.

^^^ The best thing to do in some of our Island and southern nations is rent a moped,get lost and bring a bunch of cash.The natives will love you.

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stick to U.S.! (southern).

Having done more than my share of time in the third world, (18 months in Turkey and in and out of Mexico working/playing off and on for years), I am more than content to explore the good ole US of A on my vacation jaunts. Most folks speak English, credit cards and phones work just fine, I can usually carry legally and there are thousands of beautiful places we've yet to see.

My days of foreign travel are history, it's just too expensive and dangerous. How would you like to have plunked down thousands to visit Egypt right about now? Most folks become ill either during or immediately after a trip and flying is nothing but a buck sucking PITA so we'll just keep hooking up the travel trailer to the F-150 and heading down the interstate. YMMV (o;

During my 20 years in the Army, I got to visit or live in many of the World's hell holes. Nowadays, there is a lot of Texas I havn't visited yet, and it is a big beautiful state with lots of neat things to see.

Other than the beaches, you just described Las Vegas. None of the local media report, let alone discuss the suicides here unless it involves a resident and does not take place in a hotel/casino. My contacts in the trade tell me that the big places get one a week, minimum. As for muggings, assaults and rapes of tourists, that pretty much comes under the unofficial "do not report unless celebrity involved" statute.

Something to be said about home field advantage I always tell my son if he is going to "screw up" to please at least do it in Louisiana-and preferably in the 16th Judicial District.

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With all respect; you must live in a different LV, NV than I do.