Did anyone see the story over the weekend about the rancher who has been sued ,TWICE, successfully by tresspassing illegals?
The lawyer for the illegals said amongst other things:
"The rancher had an AK47", when clearly, in all the pics he was carrying an AR. I guess all long guns look the same

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Sure you did

Yeah, I posted about it last week and my post "disapeared" just a little later. I think the thread still exists though if you go back a couple pages. I guess I said too much.

I started the thread, and mine disapeared, but here was the next post after mine.
All.
What I was going to post on a thread. The thread went away.

All.
I live in western Arizona. I camp and hunt quail and javelina in eastern Arizona. It is not unusual to see more renegade mexican criminals than javelina or deer any given day.
I had a few adventures with them this last October. 26 of them on a hillside 800 yards from camp at 1200 noon Sunday afternoon. In a pair of good bino's I could see 26 full black backpacks. All outfitted about the same. I contacted the owner of the ranch I was on and he contacted the Border Patrol. They brought in helo's, horses, humvees, and quads and had a round up. Got the most of them I was told.
I was camped on that weeks illegal route north thru the ranch and had them approach my campsite at night. I followed their trails in the evening and went back out in the morning to see of my tracks were still there, they weren't. My tracks had been walked out.
There are known mountain tops in Arizona that BP says the illegals have posted lookouts on. The illegals use encrypted Chinese radios that US guys have hard time decoding. It is against the law to import radios into America that the US does not have a decryption code for.
Roger had a neighboor named Jack Krentz. Krentz was shot/killed by illegals last spring. His wife was very outspoken about illegals until she was targeted by a known local smuggler and run over crossing the street from church. Did not kill her, but she was in hosp, for a long time.
Most ranchers over there have had threatening calls from the cartels if they speak out about the illegal activities.
No matter what the Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Nap., says, Arizona is not safe. I have spent 25 years camping and hunting in the fall in eastern Arizona. WB's and drugs are coming across in great quantities. Illegals are from many country's, they are still wet, WB's, no matter their nationality. They are criminals. Lots of Muslim nation folks out there roaming around.
Roger is just doing what the federal government should be doing. There are many so called militia and vigilante groups watching the border. Some have members a mite more extreme than me. I wish them luck.
This forum has some rules about violence and wishing harm to others. So I will be careful. There are many folks in our desert that need to be met with extreme force and violence. The WB's have no fear of US law enforcement, they have no respect for US law. The WB's need to get a dose of fear. The need to know that cranky old guys would like nothing more than to have an open season. It would only take one or two headshots for rumors to spread back to Mexico that Arizona is a dangerous place.
Tired of the drugs in your neighboorhood, tired of the young girls in your neighboorhood being raped by some guy with a Spanish surname. The problem starts right here on this border and can be stopped right here on this border.
Janet had SBI program, for many billions, of radar and sensors tracking WB's in to America and having BP arrest them 20-30 miles in country. System failed and was cancelled. They want to try again with watch towers with advanced electronics. Spend more money on fluff.
There was a law passed on Bush's watch to build a real wall. Where it has been built, it works. Yuma is an area with a good wall, WB count is way down. Congress and big business does not want a good wall. Canada and USA just signed an executive order to define the commanality of our borders and area. A little doing away with our nation.
There are many good websites that give good info on the border issues.
American Border Patrol is my favorite. Google it. They sell nice hats with a good message.
Roger has made contact and reported 10's of thousands of WB's. He may have made a few mistakes. Defending his property and right to live is not one of them.
When I go quail hunting I carry a 12 gauge and 10 rounds of buck shot with the bird loads in the vest and wear 2 handguns. AR-15 carbine at the campsite. I have never shot at any humans, I have put a few rounds in the mountain side in the evening just to announce my presence. Maybe they will go around my campsite if I let them know I am there. I have counted more than 500 WB's in one night walking up a wash I was camped in. The desert gets really busy and crowded when the sun goes down.
Bill@Yuma
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#2 02-09-2011, 02:04 PM

I remember your post and I think it should be a crime that it "Disappearred". Unfortunately this board does not enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the 1st or other amendments.

Sometimes I do get a little too political or discriptive I guess. I fully realise this is a privately owned board and the owners here can and do call the shots. I just have to be reminded once in awhile I guess.
I suppose the owners dont want lawsuites and I dont blame them. Once in a great while I do get to sail one through. I think my posts are hooked up to a bell at the office every time I post! Just a little humor there lee.

The topic is/was the dumb statement coming from the lawyer.

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Sure you did

No, you said too little.
Your thread was comprised of the news link with one sentence of discussion. One of the Mods snagged it, and another thread or two that were also basically just the bare link.
We don't like bare links, or nearly bare news links, as the rules point out. As we say- we are not the Internet Index for news sites.
Later, when Bill made the discussion post you quoted above, it stayed.



Crime?
Interesting.
I suppose this whining is because I deleted a post of yours because of the language you used. As I said in my coms to you, what you said was allowed, but the way you said it was not allowed.
1st Amendment?
Doesn't apply. This is private property. I own it.
Just as I don't have to allow the Muslim Brotherhood to post their views, or anti-abortion or pro-abortion folks to set it on fire each day, or Dem's and Rep's to flame it up each day, etc, etc, I can limit what is discussed on my board.

One freedom you are NEVER denied here is the freedom to leave if you don't like it.
Life is short- seek happiness.
Need some help?

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Regards,
Lee Jarrett

It has nothing to do with any deleted posty,
I whine all the time. Anyhow I appreciate
what you said about not disagreeing

...Send this rancher $1.00 each. Eighty-five thousand of us will pay the bill and make a great statement about the American way!

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Term limits!

If you don't mind my tossing this in, let's not flame the moderators or the owner. The rules are pretty strait forward.

The original sin in this post was the judge(s) granting the illegals the damages. Let's work with that.

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Pete.

You know, that sounds like a good idea. Even more than $1 or $10, although it all helps. Got an address?

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Formerly Model520Fan

I too like this idea,
Sounds like an In Trust For Account will need to be opened,
Hows about it OP?

Forgive my ignorance here. Assuming contributions would amount to $10,000 (just an objective figure) would the recipient have to pay tax on it?

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SOS USA

We're 40 years into the "War on Drugs" and it simply gets worse with no end in sight. Since we have declared it a war doesn't it follow that these people (armed and/or carrying drugs) are the enemy? In times of war the army doesn't follow the rule of civilian law. What to do about it? Think Vietnam and Carlos Hancock.

We need to eliminate the market for drugs in the country. But no. Charley Sheen and his old man are typical of the role models our kids have. The Chinese solved their drug addiction problem fairly simply after WWII.

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SOS USA

To "eliminate" the drug market here, we would have to "eliminate" far more people than hitler did! Not many people here is going along with that idea! Better to seal the border as best we can. I still maintain the most practical idea is to do what we have been trying to do on the opposite side of the world for the last 50 years.
Mexico cant police, protect or take care of it`s own country. A entire police department quit a couple weeks ago to keep from being killed and beheaded on the streets. One other town lost it`s entire police department near the border, one brave girl stepped up and took a badge. She has been missing for the last two or three weeks. Over 35,000 drug cartel murders have happened since 2006.
Two days ago they found a submarine that has been transporting, think they said, 8 ton`s of drugs a run.
How many tunnels have they found under the border I dont know, and I suppose more exist and are being dug at the moment. Two days ago 2 of our ICE were attacked after a meeting in mexico, one was murdered and the other is loseing a leg. Much ado was made they couldnt defend themselves as they werent allowed to be armed in mexico, (Like that would have helped). They never would have stood a chance anyway against 8 or 10 people with rifles.
Getting rid of the market is akin to killing off all car drivers so there wouldnt be a demand for oil in this country!
Anyway, at some point we have to do something or end up like mexico is now. My answer is call the military home. Mass them along the border. Then hopefully with mexico`s permission, sweep mexico, clean it up and hand it back to them. Hopefully that would solve three of this countrys biggest problems.
1. Cure the drug problem.
2. Develope and use their oil.
3. Solve our illegal invasion.
3A. If successfull, you probley would see two or three generations of mexicans WANT to return under there own power to their own old familys.
Clean mexico up, get rid of the graft, and there is no reason that country couldnt soon be a rich country. They tell me there is over 20 million illegals here. At a minimum, that 20 million and probley another 20 or 40 million probley want to return to their homeland if they could make a decent liveing there!

1. Purchase of oil is still legal.
2. I have yet to be approached by someone high on oil wanting to rob me and kill to buy more oil.
3. My game plan (in the unlikely event in my wildest dreams it would ever be implemented) would produce results intermediately .
4. Your plan would take 100 yrs. to produce results.
5. Mexico would LOVE our intervention to solve their problems.
6. The only way short of invasion of Mexico and ensuing re education of the indigenous population, would be to devolve the border and create the country of Amerimexico. (Until the recent failure of the "European model" I think this was at least under consideration.)
7. Once point 6. was established I guess all would be paradise.

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SOS USA

From what I have seen it`s been americmexico already for many years.
Side story: Yesterday theresa and I left home depot behind a small pickup loaded with drywall sticking out of the back. The front wheels were almost off the road. He turned on the freeway ramp entrance and lost the entire load on the ramp! Another guy and me helped him load it again, I had a buncg of bungee cords. Theresa was wearing her bright orange jacket and directed traffic around us. He was mexican and I dont think he spoke only a word or two of english to us!

My new next door neighbors are Mexican (moved in 8 months ago) Best neighbors I've had in 15 years in that house. At least 6 families have been there. I kid you not. This guy and his wife work 6-7 days a week and probable are paid cash. They're 30-32 have one son about 7. He borrows money from me at the first of the month to make it over the hump. He always pays me back next payday. They don't sell drugs or do drugs, I hope they stay. He and his family moved here from maybe 15 miles away because of drugs in his old neighborhood. Was the guy with the wallboard selling or using? Or maybe he was a non using human being that needed some help. I have no problem with that kind of person. I've been there.

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SOS USA

Merril:

Please believe I have every respect for you and do not wish to offend. This subject is a real sore spot with me. I'm not going to comment again.

Jim

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SOS USA

No offense taken in the least! Few people hate druggers more than me! I never used any but it`s cost me a fortune in money and grief through the back door so to speak. I hate the overview of what illegals cost this country in so many areas also. Yet at the same time, I have seen many illegals that are low profile and just hard working poor people trying to make a liveing. If I could have a choice I would trade stinkers that are citizens in this country for the low profile hard working illegals one for one in a instant.
I can sympathize, yet the illegals, everyone of them, need to be found and deported.