Old Smith Help

metrotps · #1 08-09-2011, 01:40 AM

Need help identifying this old Smith for a friend in Mexico. I have my suspicions but I need your expertise. Says he can’t find a serial number on it. Thanks!

DCWilson · #2 08-09-2011, 01:45 AM

Spanish counterfeit in imitation of a Smith & Wesson Model 1905. S&W never used a V-shaped twin spring like that one.

lebomm · #3 08-09-2011, 02:21 AM

+1 on the Colt-type mainspring. Also note the Spanish logo on the left side, while the right side appears to have a genuine S&W Trademark. May possibly be a genuine S&W sideplate fitted to the counterfeit.

Larry

Oyeboteb · #4 08-09-2011, 03:12 AM

Yahhhh...no point in sending in to Roy for a 'Letter' on this one...

But, sure does look like a genuine 'S&W' Sideplate though...and, there m-i-g-h-t be a Serial Number on the backside of it...( far as that goes...)

red9 · #5 08-09-2011, 07:22 AM

I agree, the sideplate looks right. The logo on the left side appears to be the "GH" of Guisasola Hermanos of Eibar, Spain.

OFT II · #6 08-09-2011, 10:05 AM

They even got the lazy ampersand on the barrel down.

opoefc · #7 08-09-2011, 01:08 PM

metrotps, I suspect a mating of Spanish & S&W parts. If there's a number on the backside of the sideplate, it's the assembly number, not a serial number. The "mating" of the sideplate to the frame makes it clear that the sideplate and the frame were not born together. Depending on where your friend resides in Mexico, possession of this revolver, w/o a Police permit and lots of "mordida" will get hin a trip to the local jusgado muy pronto. Ed.

Reddog · #8 08-09-2011, 01:42 PM

I thought that .38 Special was legal for citizens to own in Mexico, but not .357?
Dick

metrotps · #9 08-09-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddog

I thought that .38 Special was legal for citizens to own in Mexico, but not .357?
Dick

IIRC a.45 auto, a .357 revolver, and a .44 Mag revolver are not allowed for citizens without special permit. But .38 special or below are OK. Not sure about .38 Super? I'll email him and ask.
Thanks for the replies!

opoefc · #10 08-09-2011, 07:27 PM

.38 Spl & .38 Super are legal caliber handguns for a non-police or non-militiary citizen to possess, in most places in Mexico, but still requires a registration document (permit). Enforcement varies and mordida is still expected.

Oldiron · #11 08-09-2011, 10:03 PM

I have one of those (wanted the 20s era smith looking grips so gave the guy $25 for the grips and he threw in the pistol for free). There is no telling what parts are on those. Mine has a Colt D.A. 38 barrel in it. I also think mine has the Smith looking trade mark logo on it although it doesn't look 100% right. On the bottom next to the trigger guard mine has Spain stamped in it. BTW the grips are slightly smaller than actual Smith but look as though they have been cut down from orig Smith grips.
Larry

metrotps · #12 08-17-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by opoefc

.38 Spl & .38 Super are legal caliber handguns for a non-police or non-militiary citizen to possess, in most places in Mexico, but still requires a registration document (permit). Enforcement varies and mordida is still expected.

Well he emailed me back and this is his reply. Note: Not OK for normal citizens but the Cartels don't care! " Any gun superior to .22 in Mexico is illegal, so... Its almost the same to have a .38 special than a super or magnum..."