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Old 09-29-2011, 10:11 PM
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I bought a 66-1 .357 ss 4 inch barrel today, serial number 117k079. Wondering what year that would make it, kid behind the counter said they were made in the 90's???? Now I'm not all knowing yet but I thought 66-1 models were a bit older. Anyway will post some pics soon, I bought it anyway because price seemed right and after a good cleaning its really nice. On a side rant I wonder if I'm the only person who thinks a gun is not clean enough until I do it? My wife thinks I'm crazy. Thanks for any help.

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Old 09-29-2011, 10:47 PM
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I think you may have gotten one of the last -1s as your serial number comes from 1982. The -2s started in 1982 also.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:29 AM
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I can't wait to see pictures of it. That is a pretty high serial number for a -1.

Is it still pinned and recessed?
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On a side rant I wonder if I'm the only person who thinks a gun is not clean enough until I do it? My wife thinks I'm crazy. Thanks for any help.
You may very well be crazy, but for some reason people also like to sell filthy guns, so clean away and be happy .
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You may very well be crazy, but for some reason people also like to sell filthy guns, so clean away and be happy .
If you're gonna sell it, why clean it ????
Kinda like cleaning up the house for the housekeeper.
I'm not put off by buying a dirty gun-some people are-but not me. The guy cleans it up and decides it's so nice he will charge a bit more for it??? That's alright-I'll pay a bit less for a dirty one and clean it myself..
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It seems to me, and this is my opinion, that when someone cleans their gun, they take better care of it. I wouldnt be put off by buying a dirty gun, but when i see the gun is clean I feel better. I feel as if the person took tender loving care of his weapon. Just my opinion.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:30 PM
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heres a couple quick pictures of it, i dont know what pinned and recessed is yet, maybe you all can tell from pictures. Also, I want to eventually go back to original stocks, anybody have any pictures of them?
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Looks like you got a transition gun. The cylinder is recessed but the barrel is not pinned. See how the cases sit down flush with the rear of the cylinder, that's recessed. A pinned barrel will have a pin through the frame where the barrel is threaded, which your's does not.
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Now the correct serial number is posted, much thanks to snw19 357 for all the help and catching my stupidly reading the serial# wrong. Now if anybody wants to donate the correct stocks.......lol.
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Can anybody tell me by looking at my pictures if the trigger and hammer have been refinished somehow, my mom was looking it over today and thought so, so got me thinking, weren't they supposed to be case hardened?
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Should not be case hardened. Here is a 66-1, so I'm presuming all is well.

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66-1 with Ahrends (rd/sq conversion) so no case hardening on the hammer or trigger. Apologize for the lousy photo.
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Here's a 66-1, pinned and recessed, made in May, 1978, serial 37K4xx.

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Yes, the standard hammer and trigger on the stainless guns were "flash chromed" and silver in color.
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So my 66-1 #44K1xx would probably be a 1979 gun?
BTW what was the engineering change from the 66 to the 66-1?
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So my 66-1 #44K1xx would probably be a 1979 gun?
BTW what was the engineering change from the 66 to the 66-1?
Caj, your 66-1 was probably made in 1979. In the dash one, introduced in 1977, the gas ring was moved from the yoke to the cylinder. The no dash had the occasional problem of the cylinder tieing up when the gun was overheated; this change helped to alleviate that.

The 66-2s, introduced in 1982, eliminated the pinned and recessed features, and the trigger went from grooved to being a bit wider and smooth. I think the 66-1 model is the most desirable of the bunch - still pinned and recessed, and a lessened likelihood of a cylinder tie-up. As a practical matter, though, I like the smooth trigger of the 66-2 for double action work.

The pictures below, of a 66-1 and a 66-2, show the visual differences.

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Thanks for all the great pictures, I love my 66-1, mainley because it's my first one, I can't wait to get some wood on it after seeing all the pics.
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