I saw a nib 617-2 with stainless 10 shot cylinder, and pre mim hammer/trigger with rubber grips. I want one but the price seems high. $1100. I have a couple k 22's and wanted the 617 for some time now, dont like the alloy cylinder look or feel and not buying one with the lock. I know these are scarce and worth a premium over the 6 shot or alloy version.

I would love to have one also but I'm not paying that price. I'll just stick with my M17 and M18.

I wouldn't say they have a premium over a 10 shot, I didn't want the 10 shot and specifically hunted down a 6 shot version so it clocked similarly to my 686.

What is the barrel length?

Last year I bought a 617 no dash, 6 shot 6" barrel with factory combat grips for $599 in very nice condition.

For a NIB one with rubber grips I would think around $750-800 would be absolute tops especially if you are going to "ruin" it and shoot it.

The 617 is only ~$700 new so you need to figure out what the lack of the hole is worth.

I have a 617-4 4" 10 shot. If someone offered me $1100.00 for it-much as I like the gun-it would be gone in a heartbeat. $800 would be a real problem for me. $700-I'd keep it.

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That is way too much for a 617 of any kind.

I thought the premium was for the 617 no dash 6 shot 4"?
I guess any 617 is hot these days.

John

Nice, but not $1100 nice.

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Way too much-pure speculation,looking for a sucker. I'll pass on the alloy versions,but I see no premium for the 10 shot stainless over a six shot.In fact,I'd give the six shot a slight premium,and a bit more for a four inch six shot.

$1100 is a sellers price, not a buyers price.Way to much.

offer 700,maybeeee 750 w/ everything.wayyyyy to high.

if its a -2 with a stainless cylinder and not alloy then my guess is it went back to S&W at some point to replace a defective alloy cylinder.....

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This ^ .I go to the same gunshow every 4 months and for the last 2 years the same older gentleman has on his table a nice 686 no dash . He won't budge from the $700.00 price he has on it . You would think that after 2 years of not selling it he'd lower the price .

To each his own but there's no way I'd pay $1100. That's just way overpriced IMO, but it's worth whatever someone with money in hand is willing to pay. How bad do you want it?

Local shop has a used 4" 617 no dash for $1295.00 !!! . Been there going on 2 years .

Sounds like a Cabela's price to me - waaaay to much!

The 617 is a GREAT revolver--esp the early ones. While that might be a tad much right now, in time the price of a revolver like this NIB will routinely surpass $1100. IF you can even find one. What is the length of the barrel ? ? If it's a 4 or 8 3/8 inch, someone will grab it @ that price. I have a new version 4 inch 617 10 shot with a "PLUG" in the hole (thanks to our friend Bullseye Smith), a set of Ahrends grips, and a Jack Weigand rear sight. You would have to offer me near $900. to pry it outta my hands--it's just that nice....

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So you are saying that the 6" version is worth less than the 4" and 8 3/8" versions? Why is that?

Its 6" with case colored hammer and trigger I dont have the money for it but if I did buy it would'nt be the first time I over paid. Last year I knowingly paid to much for a real nice 17-2. Anymore I want something "thats not being manufactured anymore" I just pay and dont care about getting beat for $100 or so.

getting beat for 100 bucks is one thing,3 or 400 hundred is a whole nother animal.

$300 to $400 might just be a purchase that is only 18 months early. I've made 2 early purchases, but today they would be GOOD deals.

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While I don't think 700 is that outlandish for a nice 686,one must realize that some guys work these shows just for an activity,to be in the setting with their cronies,away from the wife,not necessarily to move guns.

Well Jim, looks like I am the "sucker" who bought the gun you were looking at. I placed a $900 bid and it stuck. The "Buy it now" price was $1100, but like you I was not willing to pop for that much.
I sure hope the gun will be as described by the seller. I will know in a week or so.

Great nice gun; hope you enjoy it, this time next year you wont even remember what you paid for it.

Probably not, as long as I don't tell my wife!
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$1100.00 seems way too high for that gun.
I jut picked up a 617-1 6 shot, 6" barrel at the gun show in Jacksonville this past weekend.
It was in the blue plastic case with all the papers and the serial number matching the label on the box.
It doesn't even look like it was fired, and the timing and lock up is perfect.
Now here is the great part. I got it from a private dealer for $525.00 cash out the door.
There are great deals out there. You just have to be lucky enough to come across them.
I have been wanting this gun for years, but they are always in the $700 ot $800 range.
This time patience paid off.
Keep looking, you will find one.

Stu

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Yes, if I had selected a 6 shot like the 617, 617-1, -3, or -5; I could have paid much less.
I think the 10 shot was created for rapid fire competition, like pin matches and steel challenge. That's what I wanted the gun for. Six shots may not be enough for steel challenge matches. If you miss a single shot, you will have to reload. Ten shots gives you quite an edge.
I spoke to S&W customer service before bidding. The original 617-2 was released with an alloy cylinder but they switched to a stainless cylinder during the production life. The customer rep would not say exactly why they chose alloy or why they later switched. My guess is that alloy was used because the lower mass would facilitate faster firing of the gun.
I saw some models available on Gunbroker with alloy cylinders. I thought about cleaning an alloy cylinder and realized that using a brass bristled brush in the chambers would not be a good idea. There are no steel sleeves in the chambers. The rep did tell me that sending the gun in and having it fitted with a new stainless cylinder would cost right around $200.
Anyhow, the gun I bid on was late enough in the production cycle to have a stainless cylinder, but still early enough to have forged parts instead of MIM parts. Not that I really object to MIM parts, but that just added a bit more spice to the deal.
I did pay more than I originally intended to ( I paid $900, not $1100 ). Hopefully the gun will prove to be a real winner. I will post about it after I receive it from my FFL.

The initial use of alloy had nothing to do with faster firing or match use.
It simply took a couple of years for the technology to be able to do close drilling for the chambers in stainless material.

Really? If it existed for steel and alum., then it existed for stainless.
This is how rumors start.

John

I think that's too high for that gun, but if someone wants it bad enough....hey.

As for the alloy cylinder issue, I found an unfired 17-8 back around the first of February. Today, I fired the 2350th round through it and all is going fine. If, and when, it becomes a problem it can go back to the factory for a stainless cylinder. I do know that the chambers are not bored as closely as my 4-screw K-.22, but accuracy at any distance is excellent regardless and the action has really slicked up since I've had it.

It has become my DA practice gun and I've really enjoyed it.

Geeez, $1100 would get you two of them not very long ago.

Four of them!!



But, hey this is a beater with the wrong rear sight.

If the LGS would have had 4 that day, I would have spent $1100.

That was about 2006.

Was the trigger on the above gun converted from "target" to "non target"?

I never thought about it, those machine marks would make you wonder, though, huh?????