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Not sure if dogs can read our minds or read libs but for sure they Understand English! Told Ruger awhile ago, one of my aussie dogs, that we are going camping and I was going to give him a bath. Out the doggie door he went!! Later he returned, I then blocked the doggie door and bathroom door and proceeded to bath him. The other dogs were shaken in their boots thinking they were next but it didn't happen.

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Dogs are the ultimate associative learners. They are NOT stupid, they just tend to think differently.

Hang out on dog forums and you'll hear of all sorts of "unintended consequences." One of my favorites is the old "bell on the door." Hang a bell on the door so Phydeaux can tell you when he needs to go out. Brilliant!

Except for the cases where Phydeaux figures out that ringing the bell will get him attention & maybe a play session with his human!

My wife's GSD loves her baths. Take off her collar and say "Let's go!" and SHE leads ME to the bathroom & jumps right in the tub.
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I tell my dog Elvis "Time for a bath", take his collar off and he runs in and jumps in the tub...however his brother Chewie, is impossible to bath, and he's big enough (85lbs) that wrestling him is out of the question, so on warm days, we'll hitch him to the chain link fence post in the driveway and a couple of us will go to work on him.
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Dogs just know humans do not roll a newspaper up to read it.
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"I sorry." "I did'n mean to".
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Reminds me of a joke......

A young boy goes off to college, but about 1/3 way through the semester, he has foolishly squandered what money his parents gave him.

"Hmmmm," he wonders, "How am I gonna get more dough?"

Then he gets an idea. He calls his father.

"Dad," he says, "you won't believe the wonders that modern education are coming up with!

Why, they have a program here that will teach Fido how to talk!"

"That's absolutely amazing!" His father says.

"How do I get him in that program?"

"Just send him down here with $1000," the boy says, "I'll get him into the course."

So, his father sends the dog and the $1000.

About 2/3 way through the semester, the money runs out.

The boy calls his father again.

"So how's Fido doing, son?" His father asks.

"Awesome, dad, he's talking up a storm," he says, "but you just won't believe this, they've had such good results with this program, that they've implemented a new one to teach the animals to READ!"

"READ!?" Says his father, "No kidding!

What do I have to do to get him in that program?"

"Just send $2,500, I'll get him in the class."

And his father sends the money.

At the end of the semester, the boy has a problem.

When he gets home, his father will find out that the dog can neither talk nor read. So he shoots the dog.

When he gets home, his father is all excited.

"Where's Fido? I just can't wait to hear him talk and listen to him read something!"

"Dad," the boy says, "I have some grim news. This morning when I got out of the shower, Fido was in the living room kicking back in the recliner, reading the morning paper, like he usually does.

Then he turned to me and asked, 'So, is your daddy still messin" around with that little redhead who lives on Oak Street?' “The father says,"Damn; I hope you SHOT that lyin' dog!"

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Recently, I was diagnosed as having autistic tendencies (most likely a high-functioning autistic, at least Asperger's syndrome). Anyway, besides explaining a lifetime of confusion, it opened up some areas of thought. One of the most influential autists is Temple Grandin (a PhD in animal husbandry). Recent research has shown an abnormal distribution of autists in science, especially the biological sciences.

To get back on the subject, I wonder if (a) we choose biology because we understand animals better than people or (b) the animals understand us because we think so much alike. I have NEVER met a dog that didn't like me and that I couldn't get to trust me. To this day, our terrier/whippet cross does not like men==when we adopted him, he climbed in my lap within 5 minutes. I am the definite favorite of both of our dogs and most of the dogs we have had.

When I retire in 5-6 years, I hope to go back and get my PhD (my Master's focused on black bear behavior). Thinking seriously about doing my dissertation on this.

Anyway, just a couple of thoughts and no intent to hijack this!

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Dogs have the ability to read human faces.They can tell when you are upset or happy.My niece is a primatologist (she studies primates). She said that chimps don't have that ability. That's one reason why they don't make good pets.

I aspire to be the great person my dogs think I am.
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Dogs have the ability to read human faces.They can tell when you are upset or happy.My niece is a primatologist (she studies primates). She said that chimps don't have that ability. That's one reason why they don't make good pets.

I aspire to be the great person my dogs think I am.
We have, at Central Washington University, some sign language-taught chimps. For some reason, the 6 year old male and I bonded (with heavy glass between us). I was in a cast and he pointed to my foot several times and signed "hurt, shoe". Also signed "friend" and got upset when we filed out. Chimps don't look at peoples faces (neither do autists) and autists cannot read body language (we have to interpret it rather than instinctual)

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We have two Saints and a Rotti. they sleep in crates at night. there is a ritual that happens each night. They each go out to do their business. Then each get a drink. Then into their crates for the night. Then they get a cookie.

At anytime during the day you say "cookie" they will run for the crates.
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When I tell ours that it's night night time, he runs and jumps on the bed, then I have to take him to his kennel and put him to bed.

Ask him if he wants to go for a car ride, he beats us to the garage door.

When he starts getting ansity, askhim if he needs to go outside, he runs to the back door to go out.

They sure do understand a lot or english!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm amazed by the fact that my dog knows me better than any person in my life.

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I'm stunned by the fact that she still loves me.
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Our 3 dogs give us so much unconditional love it would be hard to
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[QUOTE=chud333;136421493]Our 3 dogs give us so much unconditional love it would be hard to
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to them and they are just another 3 little people to us. Our 2 dachsunds and our ****zu certainly do understand alot of English.

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We have, at Central Washington University, some sign language-taught chimps. For some reason, the 6 year old male and I bonded (with heavy glass between us). I was in a caste and he pointed to my foot several times and signed "hurt, shoe". Also signed "friend" and got upset when we filed out. Chimps don't look at peoples faces (neither do autists) and autists cannot read body language (we have to interpret it rather than instinctual)
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I go by that facility regularly walking one or both of the dogs. I do not recall ever seeing or hearing any sign of the chimps.
Our dogs have all been pretty perceptive. Mya is by far the most tuned to my wife. When she starts changing to go outside, packing her suitcase, etc, the talking starts, and Mya does not shut up until she is happily settled in the back of the wagon.
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our last dalmatian would go nuts if she seen a suitcase, or anything that resembeled "packing". My wife would have to hide in another room to pack for a trip. Most dogs seem to love to "GO", even when they have no idea where they are going; ours just don't want to be left at home.
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Lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car for one hour. Which one do you think will be happy to see you when you let them out?
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our last dalmatian would go nuts if she seen a suitcase, or anything that resembled "packing". My wife would have to hide in another room to pack for a trip. Most dogs seem to love to "GO", even when they have no idea where they are going; ours just don't want to be left at home.
It has been my experience that pet dogs do not care what you are doing. They just care very much that you are allowing them to do it with you.
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Odd fact for an old thread.
Dogs are the only species besides human that will look where a finger is pointed.
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We have a cat that does that.
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There was a great movie about Temple Grandin ("Temple Grandin" with Claire Danes in the lead) that shows up on TV occasionally, although I haven't seen it recently. It is well worth watching. She apparently has an uncanny ability to see the world as animals see it. Temple Grandin (TV Movie 2010) - IMDb

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"Son, listen to the dog. He's smarter than you are!" my Dad would tell me following the dog across an open field.

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My daughter has 2 dogs now that are very smart. The older one, who is a rescue she picked up from the Parish animal facility is one of the smartest dogs I've ever run across. He understands a whole bunch of English and also is a confirmed rideaholic and will ask to go for a ride if he sees you picking up wallet or keys He's about 6 years old now and my daughter got him at around 4-6 months of age. The young one is another rescue she got last November from the same facility as Reno. She's roughly 2 years old and came from a pretty bad background of abuse and neglect and was picked up from old hoarder's house along with 7-8 other dogs. When she first brought Lily home, she was very suspicious of myself and not trusting me at all. That told me that whoever abused her must have been an older man, as she didn't get defensive with my wife or daughter or her husband, just me. It took 4-5 months of work to get her to trust me enough to start seeing me in a favorable way and now she just adores her "Grampy". She is also one of the smart ones and she has picked up a lot of English since we got her; it most probably helped a lot that Reno was so smart and trained where she had another dog to show her how to associate words and commands to actions required.

One thing I have really noticed with these rescue dogs is how extremely grateful they are to have a stable, loving family. Take Lily for instance; she will come up to me a dozen times a day to come get some petting and loving and give me kisses. She is one of those dogs that shows their emotions on their face and she is always smiling nowadays.
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Dogs come in all ranges of intelligence in my experience, some really smart and some not so much. Some of the working dogs need very little human input to perform some amazing work.
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In my experience with dogs it was the working dog breeds, pointers and retriever breeds that quickly picked up the meaning of a human when they pointed with a finger. Non hunting or non working dogs not so much.
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I've had 3 wonderful labs, 2 chocolates and 1 black. They all passed way from old age and cancer. I'll never have another as new pups quickly become new friends and then new friends turn into best friends and then you lose them. We hunted over all 3 (Ducks, quail and dove) and I've never seen happiness more than racking an 870 on a cool morning and watching those girls all turn themselves all inside and out, knowing we were heading out to the field where there were so many better smells than you'd ever find around the house. God I miss those 3!!
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There was a great movie about Temple Grandin ("Temple Grandin" with Claire Danes in the lead) that shows up on TV occasionally, although I haven't seen it recently. It is well worth watching. She apparently has an uncanny ability to see the world as animals see it. Temple Grandin (TV Movie 2010) - IMDb
I LOVE the scene where she is at the convention and starts talking to the parents and they learn she is a Doctoral candidate!
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We support the Animal Rescue League here and adopt cats when we can. Ten years ago our last cat passed and I adopted a bonded pair. One is neutered male(classic yellow stripe with white bib and tummy), the other is a spayed calico. They are totally devoted to each other and were obviously very happy to be adopted(they trusted us day one).

The male is enormous(20lb); the female is less than half his size. The male was determined to show me how happy he was by licking my bare arms until I stopped him. He is the only cat I've ever known who will look me straight in the eyes and hold a gaze(all experts would say doesn't happen); the female can't look me in the eye beyond a few seconds.

The male fully absorbs the rhythm of our lives including going upstairs in the evening to put my wife to bed, then coming back down to make sure I do everything correctly. He spends the night watching over us and wakes us if we sleep too late. The female is sweet as she can be but not nearly as "smart".

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Dogs know where all the missing clothes are stashed. Dogs know if they make a puking like sound, you get up MUCH quicker in the morning. Dogs know how many treats are in your pocket. They know when you are happy, mad , sad or hurt.

My dog is smarter than i am, and has trained me well.
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I've had 3 wonderful labs, 2 chocolates and 1 black. They all passed way from old age and cancer. I'll never have another as new pups quickly become new friends and then new friends turn into best friends and then you lose them. We hunted over all 3 (Ducks, quail and dove) and I've never seen happiness more than racking an 870 on a cool morning and watching those girls all turn themselves all inside and out, knowing we were heading out to the field where there were so many better smells than you'd ever find around the house. God I miss those 3!!
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My father always told me to let my dog pick my friends. Because if my dog doesn't like you, chances are I won't either.

One of the times in my life I felt the dumbest, yes there are many, was when an older man was showing me his dog do tricks at his command. The thing was he was giving the commands in Greek and the dog understood him and I didn't.

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It's a compliment. Other drivers are telling me I'm #1.
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My pit/lab girl would love Hitler.
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We lost our Katie a while back after many great years . We adopted a brother sister pair that don't look or act alike form the Humane Society at 8 weeks old. They have been keeping us busy during the virus shutdown.
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"Son, listen to the dog. He's smarter than you are!" my Dad would tell me following the dog across an open field.

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Our Aussie Cattle Dog mix Charlie knows several words in addition to all the regular commands (heel, rollover, paw, sit, stay)
Cage - go to your dog crate
Kibble or Scoop - means a scoop of dry dog food
Sqeakie - his favorite toy
Tree or outside - go out and do your business
Cookie or treat - dog treat
Of course he knows both our boys names, and Daddy and momma (me & the wife)
But his favorite word of all, the one that gets the most hilarious reaction is...
WALK - he starts jumping up and down, and running back & forth to the basket where his harness and leash are kept.
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They say (researchers) that dogs can learn up to about 300 words. Our Pointing Griff knows "outside, walk, ride, truck," besides "treat, come, sit, stay, etc."

Interesting (My MS is in Animal Behavior) that gorillas universally use terms such as sh++ for something bad, "water fruit" for melons, etc. I related above my experience with a signing chimp at the CWU Primate Center (now defunct). There is a chimp rescue in Cle Elum but it is closed to the public (Donors get invites to special events).

Excellent books include Jane Goodall's "In the Shadow of Man" and Temple Grandin's "Thinking in Pictures" (explains the differences between autistic thinking and "normal" thinking (NT). For instance, I never realized that NTs think in words and dream in the first person.

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I've had 3 wonderful labs, 2 chocolates and 1 black. They all passed way from old age and cancer. I'll never have another as new pups quickly become new friends and then new friends turn into best friends and then you lose them. We hunted over all 3 (Ducks, quail and dove) and I've never seen happiness more than racking an 870 on a cool morning and watching those girls all turn themselves all inside and out, knowing we were heading out to the field where there were so many better smells than you'd ever find around the house. God I miss those 3!!
I hear you. It hurts, bad. But you’ll lose all that love and bonding if you don’t and so will some lucky pup.
I’ve found that the best way to fill the hole left by a lost friend is to fill it with another one. I tend to believe that some of your new friend has some of your older friend inside.
Maybe that’s just something that I invent in my own mind?
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I have 2 Salukis, a sighthound breed that is the ancestor of such dogs as Afghan Hounds and Greyhounds. While the "experts" say they are not the brightest dogs around, they are shrewd, clever and manipulative as all get out. The two we have now are both former show dogs (both champions - BFD) and have now retired to a life of leisure. The breed is not demonstrably affectionate, like, for instance a Lab, but any time one of us is hurt or sick suddenly we have a Saluki stuck to us like velcro. Get well, and it is "so what is your problem - leave me alone for my nap".
Strange dogs, but we love them and can't imagine life without one or two around us.
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