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Old 07-07-2012, 04:59 PM
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A friend has found a green Remington Nylon 66 for sale. He thinks it can get it for about $400.00. He is supposed to go look at it Monday. He says the guy that has it says it is in pretty good shape. He asked me about it. I think the green ones are scarce, only made for a few years. However I am not sure $400.00 is a good price. Has anybody priced them lately? I have a black one and am very happy with it. I am just not sure what to tell him on the price. I think he could find a brown or black one for less money. But if the green is worth it, he will buy it. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Waldo.
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I love the Nylon 66.

Looks like only 45,270 were made in Seneca Green and only produced during the years of 1959-1961.

First rifle I bought when I turned 18.

Shot so many long rifles through it that Remington should have used my rifle for an endurance test.

Great piece on the rifle in the January 2009 issue of American Rifleman.
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A friend has found a green Remington Nylon 66 for sale. He thinks it can get it for about $400.00. He is supposed to go look at it Monday. He says the guy that has it says it is in pretty good shape. He asked me about it. I think the green ones are scarce, only made for a few years. However I am not sure $400.00 is a good price. Has anybody priced them lately? I have a black one and am very happy with it. I am just not sure what to tell him on the price. I think he could find a brown or black one for less money. But if the green is worth it, he will buy it. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Waldo.
Waldo, if it's really green and has a box magazine, it's NOT a Nylon 66 Seneca Green. It's a "K-Mart Special" Nylon Apache 77. The Seneca Green models are very close to brown in color, and carry no serial numbers. They are tube-fed from a magazine in the butt of the rifle.

Here's some comprehensive info on the Remington Nylon series for your information. Hope this helps.

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Is the green one the same as the olive drab one.
I had one and on a cold day it slipped out of the case
about a foot or so to the floor of the garage and the
indestructible stock broke.

It was sent back and a brown stock was installed
they said the other had been discontinued. This was
a year or two after I bought the gun which is one of
the first models out. I remember they had just started
being advertised in the magazines.

I think some how the color and the stock material resin
caused a weak product.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:38 AM
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they have went up A LOT, i could have gotten a REAL green one for 350 early last year and passed it up, now I wish I hadn't because ive seen them up around 600 bucks. Tell him to hop on it!
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Heed the advice from Paladin. There were more Kmart clip fed greens produced than the first model Seneca. The older guns have been out there longer for things to happen to them, plus collectors have gobbled up the Seneca, while the Kmarts are left on tables unsold. this equals many Kmarts for sale compared to the Seneca's. Its easy to be fooled. Ask me how I know.


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The green Nylon's are definitely more rare. Was at a small gun show today where one table had four or five brown Nylon's sitting on it. First time I've ever seen that many in the same place since the day my father bought his (now my) brown Nylon 66 back in the 1960s.



If the rifle is in good shape, and truly green, I'd think it would be worthwhile investment.
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Those K-Mart Apache 77's are becoming a collectible. Bringing alot more money when they were new. Those things when new jammed like crazy and cost a whopping $70 or so in the 80's. I traded one off a few years ago, don't know why everybody wants them now.
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Those K-Mart Apache 77's are becoming a collectible. Bringing alot more money when they were new. Those things when new jammed like crazy and cost a whopping $70 or so in the 80's. I traded one off a few years ago, don't know why everybody wants them now.
This model is significant only because it is the last of the Nylon rifle breed. It's also the only one without white spacers at the buttplate and the nose cap. It was made on very worn tooling, and sold at a discount to K-Mart exclusively. I bought one new in the box in July of 1989 at a K-Mart in El Paso; my records indicate I paid $118 for it OTD. Unlike your experience, I've not had any malfunctions with it.

My first Nylon 66 was a Black Diamond model; it was scratched and beat up, and had an incredible amount of sand in the action, as though it had been picked up on a beach somewhere. I bought it on a whim for $60, took it apart, and flushed the sand out with a can of WD-40. After getting it back together, it ran like a sewing machine; never had a bobble with it. I put a GI web sling and a scope on it, and today it's my go-anywhere, treat-it rough .22. Best $60 I ever spent. I got interested in the Nylon guns then, and now I have all but one of every variety ever made. All I lack is a Nylon 66 gallery special with the black stock; only 465 made. Hope springs eternal that I will find one some day and that the cost will not be astronomical. The Nylons are the hottest Remingtons on the collector market now, with all the variations and the nostalgia factor kicking in for the Baby Boomers who either had or wanted them back in the day.

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My oldest and dearest friend use to own the only lumberyard in a small town. One day a guy ordered a truck load of lumber and after it was delivered, indicated he had no money but had guns. I got a new Walther stainless PPK/s and a brown Nylon 66 out of that deal. The Remington has worked much better than the Walther.

If you go to Youtube there are a number of videos that tell you how to take the 66 down and properly clean it. I remember as a kid when the 66's first came out. I really wanted one, but had no money. Now I have one and it isn't for sale for any price.
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I also wanted one in my younger days and for whatever reason never got one. Maybe some day. A few years ago I answered a prowler call. The young lady was scared because she thought someone was sneaking around her yard. She was far from town. I told her I could check on her every few hours and asked her if she had a gun. She came out with a "single shot" Nylon 66 that her father left her after he died She told me she could load one round at a time but it was hard to do. I asked if she had any ammo and she handed me a box of .22 LR. I pulled the tube from the butt of the rifle and put 10 rounds in. I then jacked the receiver and rapid fired the rounds off the porch of her trailer. She was shocked that she didn't know what she had. I took her shooting a couple of days later and helped her get used to handling the rifle. I still want one.
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My nylon 66 story.

Set up at a local gunshow, another dealer had LIKE NEW nylon 66 brown on his table. It still had the lifetime sticker on the stock. And some yahoo had scratched his Drivers license # on the receiver. Dealer was asking $180, I offered $150, only had $140 on me so he said fine. This was just a couple years ago.

Oh, forgot to mention it had a 150th yr logo on the receiver. Only 3000 or so made. Without the DL #, it was easily a $1500 gun. Still got $750 for it. I was happy.


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A brown tube feed one was my first rifle. It's sitting at my fathers house waiting for my state side return. Never had a misfire, and isn't for sale! Still love that little rifle!
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This model is significant only because it is the last of the Nylon rifle breed. It's also the only one without white spacers at the buttplate and the nose cap. It was made on very worn tooling, and sold at a discount to K-Mart exclusively. I bought one new in the box in July of 1989 at a K-Mart in El Paso; my records indicate I paid $118 for it OTD. Unlike your experience, I've not had any malfunctions with it.

My first Nylon 66 was a Black Diamond model; it was scratched and beat up, and had an incredible amount of sand in the action, as though it had been picked up on a beach somewhere. I bought it on a whim for $60, took it apart, and flushed the sand out with a can of WD-40. After getting it back together, it ran like a sewing machine; never had a bobble with it. I put a GI web sling and a scope on it, and today it's my go-anywhere, treat-it rough .22. Best $60 I ever spent. I got interested in the Nylon guns then, and now I have all but one of every variety ever made. All I lack is a Nylon 66 gallery special with the black stock; only 465 made. Hope springs eternal that I will find one some day and that the cost will not be astronomical. The Nylons are the hottest Remingtons on the collector market now, with all the variations and the nostalgia factor kicking in for the Baby Boomers who either had or wanted them back in the day.

John
I knew they were K-mart exclusive and last of the line. The worn out tooling point may explain the quality inconsistancies. I've heard everything on these from flawless functioning to jamming. For those that collect these your right about it's place in the line. I just don't get excited about these, but others do and that's the whole point of it all.
On that note. Good Collecting!
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Thanks to every one who responded. Saw the gun today. It was feed with a detachable box magazine, which was missing. The rear sight elevation adjustment was done with a hex nut. It looked wrong, do not think it was factory. Gun was rough looking. They came down to $350.00. Don't think it was worth it.
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My Godson prefers my Apache Black 66 that I got for my 12th birthday ..although he goes to school in Cali so he refers to it as the Native American African American 66..

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