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Old 07-11-2012, 07:07 PM
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My Daugter wants to learn how to shoot a pistol well.
Her Boy Friend took her shooting last year, shooting a M&P 40, and a Glock 21.
She hated it. To loud, hurt her hand, he laughted at her.

I bought her proper ears and eyes. I took her shooting three times last week. Started with a big target at 3 yards, with a 22LR semi. Low an behold she nailed it all center mass. That builds convidence.

Then at 5 yards.
Then at 7 yards.

We ended up at 10 yards, shooting 8 inch targets. She seems a natural shot. Was hitting ~ bullseye within 3 days with two very different pistols.
GSG 1911
Sig Mosquito
She complained that both felt too big for her hands.

So I am going to get her a .22LR pistol. Looking for something small and lite.
Leaning toward the Walther P22, or Ruger SR22.

Want suggestions.

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Old 07-11-2012, 07:14 PM
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I would recommend you go to as big a store as you can and handle some to see which ones feel good. Some will and some wont then move on to shooting, maybe a rental?
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:18 PM
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The browning buck mark with a UDX grip (scalloped) works well for those with small hands.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:22 PM
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How little are her hands?

My 7-year-old granddaughter didn't have much problem with a Ruger Mark II.



Her 3-year-old little sister needed Dad's help in holding it up.



But the 7-year-old had no problems shooting it. Click on this one. It's a movie.


I'd look into Ruger metal before I thought about plastic guns.

And if an auto is "too big", how about a J-frame?
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Someone's going to say it sooner or later, so I might as well get it over with. Ruger Mark I, II, or III. I have experienced nothing that is easier to shoot well. All the women who have tried it have loved it.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:40 PM
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The Browning 1911-22 is 7/8 size and feels great. Only problem is finding one. I asked the Browning rep at the NRA Convention and he said it would probably be over a year before they got close to filling current orders. But the size could be perfect.
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Someone's going to say it sooner or later, so I might as well get it over with. Ruger Mark I, II, or III. I have experienced nothing that is easier to shoot well. All the women who have tried it have loved it.
Yeah, but the MKIII feels like a full sized pistol. I learned with a Mark 1. Great guns!

Her hand is about a didget smaller than mind. Not a midget hand, but small. I am 6'1" and have small hands and big feet. Go figure.

The 1911 feels best to me. So looking for something less than a 1911 in size. She was shooting the 1911 great, but complained the grip was to big.
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The browning buck mark with a UDX grip (scalloped) works well for those with small hands.
Thanks I'm now looking at it!!!
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I like my P22. It is light, accurate and I can put a silencer on it. I shot it with my brother's silencer and I only heard the slide and the bullet hit.
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My wife has a Beretta .22 Bobcat that see uses for her .22 practice. It doesn't work well with some cartridges. She uses CCI Mini-Mags and doesn't have any trouble. Larry
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Leaning toward the Walther P22. My wife shoots hers with enthusiasm. We bought it 6 years ago with 2 barrels and a dot sight for about $360. I have been warned to never sell it -- it's hers. She also has a Ruger Mk II with thin checkered grips and a dot sight. The woman has talent. I can barely beat her with my M41.
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I have a Walther P22 and Ruger SR22 and I would recommend either one.

The P22 comes with grip backstraps of varying sizes to help those from large to small hands. I have the small one on mine so as to be more comfortable for my wife.

The SR22 comes with a large and small grip sleeve. I have he large one on mine because it's the one I shoot most.
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Ruger SR22, great little pistol. No need for "special" ammo, it eats it all.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:12 AM
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You might consider the Ruger SP101 in .22. 8 rounds, solid as a rock, and a reasonable price.
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I have a Walther P22 and Ruger SR22 and I would recommend either one.

The P22 comes with grip backstraps of varying sizes to help those from large to small hands. I have the small one on mine so as to be more comfortable for my wife.

The SR22 comes with a large and small grip sleeve. I have he large one on mine because it's the one I shoot most.
I agree as well. I too have both and they both fit my hand great. I do however prefer the grip on the P22 over the SR22 because it fits just a tad better. The MKII or MKIII is more for adult hands.

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Old 07-12-2012, 02:48 AM
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My Daugter wants to learn how to shoot a pistol well.
Her Boy Friend took her shooting last year, shooting a M&P 40, and a Glock 21.
She hated it. To loud, hurt her hand, he laughed at her.

I bought her proper ears and eyes.

Want suggestions.
Suggestion? Punch him in the nose for laughing at your little girl.

From a daddy of 2 girls.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:28 AM
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Those Walther P22's are great for such a task.

I would suggest a light .38 out of J,K,L, or even N frame will soak up the recoil for here. Snubnoses are scarey for beginners. .38s that are real slow aren't bad either. My sister is young and small and loves .38s. She's a darn good shot too because I was patient and explained the process of target shooting at her own comfortable pace on a 627 for her first shot! beginners really can get comfortable with the simplicity of a revolver.

.380s too.

Your daughter's boyfriend sounds like a unsavory and unchivalrous jerk for laughing at her. I would say something to him.

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In a moment of weakness I bought a used Phoenix HP22a. It fits small hands very well and has proven less ammo sensative than my Ruger Mk1.

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The dirt cheap Phoenix HP22s generally work well despite seeming to have some ballpoint pen components. The example that I was most familiar with worked better than my Beretta 21. Some include a longer target bbl. The extra safety on the slide needs to be the subject of special attention lest it activate at the wrong time.
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You mention only semi autos, have you considered maybe a revolver, say a S&W 34/63 or ruger bearcat? The bearcat is great for small hands. Just a thought.
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The P22 and SR22 are certainly excellent options. The Walther P22 is available with a pink frame and either nickel or blue slide.

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I would add to the list the Bersa Thunder 22. The grip size is appropriate for smaller hands.

It is also an iconic "look" similar to the classic PPK. The nickel finish with aftermarket pink grips also makes a female fashion statement.

She can also graduate to a Thunder .380 with ease. Laserlyte and Crimson Trace both make lasers to fit the Bersa if she would be so inclined.

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SR22

Best .22 semi for the money I've ever owned.
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[QUOTE=Faulkner;136604438]

I have a Walther P22 and Ruger SR22 and I would recommend either one.

The P22 comes with grip backstraps of varying sizes to help those from large to small hands. I have the small one on mine so as to be more comfortable for my wife.

The SR22 comes with a large and small grip sleeve. I have he large one on mine because it's the one I shoot most.

Thanks, that is good information.
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You mention only semi autos, have you considered maybe a revolver, say a S&W 34/63 or ruger bearcat? The bearcat is great for small hands. Just a thought.
Yes i have.
The LCR-22
looking at this also.
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A .22 that get too little attention in my book is the Beretta Neos. Is like the Ruger Mk Is and IIs and does not care what ammo is fed through it. My boys both have Walther P22s and like them. Only thing they have found on them is to not swap ammo type in the middle of shooting. The fowling pattern in the chamber made a difference if you shifted to a bullet with a longer contact surface on it.
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Has anyone mentioned the Ruger Lite?
Weighs only 24 oz. and has a cool gold anodized finish.
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I would pick a 22 pistol that has a longer sight radius than the one such as the Ruger SR-22. May I suggest...the spacey looking Ruger Mark 3, or the Ruger Single Action Hunter, which comes with an extra 22 mag. cylinder; both have scope mounts. The Ruger Single Action... sometimes spits lead --- so eye protection is a must. I own both pistols...and have a Nikon 3X pistol scope mounted on my single action Hunter. I scour the gun shows for a S&W 22LR, 10 shot, double action pistol. People say if you can shoot double action pistols --- you can shoot anything.

Best buy: Ruger Single Action Hunter

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Model 34 snub nose Just my opinion
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Having scrolled through every post in this thread, I reluctantly and disappointedly conclude that the thread title was simply misleading --- not a proposed trade as it implied... Well, sooner or later, there'll be another offer...
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J-Frame .22
Then again - I WAY prefer wheel guns.... Simple, reliable, easy manual of arms - What's not to like?
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Ruger 22/45. That's all it's absolutely the best pistol to learn to target shoot with and it has similar egronimics to a 1911.
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She complained that both felt too big for her hands.
They have been out of print for many years, but any of the early single action Beretta 22 pistols (such as the "Jaguar", model 70s, 71, etc.) are a perfect size for a female shooter. Light weight, small flat grips, good trigger pull. You will probably see them at any big gun show.

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Look at the browning 1911 22. It is a 7/8 scale 1911 format gun. Lots of fun to shoot.
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Aloha,

I would suggest the Beretta 80 series family.

M-87 is a small/medium frame in 22 cal.

The 84 is a 10 or 13 round (depending on state law) wider semi auto.

M-85 is a single stack 8 shot 380, same frame size as the M-87

Last is the M-86 a tip up barrel version of the 85, also 8 shot.

I use all of them in teaching basic handgun class to qualify people in
keeping with Hawaii State law on handgun ownership.

The 80 series also make great CCW guns in 380.

Just keep them relatively clean/lubed. No problems.
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I suggest looking at the line of .22 semi-automatic pistols that S&W manufacture.
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Suggestion? Punch him in the nose for laughing at your little girl.

From a daddy of 2 girls.
That was my first thought!

Personally I have had very mixed luck with Ber. 21A pistols in 22 LR. The blued one worked pretty well, but the stainless gave me constant issues. The older Ber. 70s is a superb little gun; a little larger and somewhat heavier, but super solid, not very picky about ammo and very reliable. The old S&W 2213/14 and 422 are very light and handy little guns also (I have long regretted selling mine).

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I recently went through the same decision process for a grandson. I wound up with the Ruger SR22. The small grip adaptor fit his small hands fine. I had him handle several 22s at Gander but wound up getting the Ruger a local gun show for about 300 OTD.

We went shooting this weekend and he went through around 150 rounds with no problems at all. He had a great time.
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Nobody has mentioned the S&W 422/622 yet. These are nice light little guns--almost too light for some.

You can find some decent deals on them, too.
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Having scrolled through every post in this thread, I reluctantly and disappointedly conclude that the thread title was simply misleading --- not a proposed trade as it implied... Well, sooner or later, there'll be another offer...
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Anybody tried these???

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Suggestion? Punch him in the nose for laughing at your little girl.

From a daddy of 2 girls.
Nope that's up to her!!!
Her first serious Boy was a GI kid. Born in Germany with a German Mother and US Dad. Lived in Fulda for 12 years, then in the states. Speaks both.
He Laughed at her langage skills. She got rid of him and now can speak German.

She is 28 years old so I don't fight her battles. But I expect in a few months she will be shooting 10x.

I went and shot a Ruger SR22. Nice!!!
Have a Walther P22 lined up too shoot Saturday..

Also got a chance to shoot a M&P22. Think this one is for me.

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Does it have to be an auto?

Have you considered the Ruger Bearcat?

About as safe as they get being a single action, easy to check if loaded or not, no slide to rack and I can't think of many guns so well scaled for a smaller hand. If she likes, or potentially likes, westerns then it's a natural.
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My vote would be for Ruger SR22. In my less than a month ownership of this gun I put over 2k rounds through it - all flawless, not a single hiccup (all federal bulk). Much lighter than my markIII and fieldstrip can't be compared
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+1 for the 622/422. It is not small, but it is very light.

My daughter's favorite gun (over Ruger MK1 standard, Single Six, Bearcat, SP101; Beretta Neos 6 in, and Bobcat; S&W Model 34-1).
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It's a single action 4 inch bbl .22 cal revolver, small as you can buy.
The Ruger Bearcat, love mine which was made in 68.
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I'm a k22 kind of guy, the more screws the better. I hang around some Ruger guys and after hearing all the hype about the SR22 I bought one. It is the real deal. I love shooting mine and I'd highly recommend it as a training weapon. Master the semi-auto first and then the nuances of a fine revolver can be better appreciated.
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How little are her hands?

My 7-year-old granddaughter didn't have much problem with a Ruger Mark II.



Her 3-year-old little sister needed Dad's help in holding it up.



But the 7-year-old had no problems shooting it. Click on this one. It's a movie.


I'd look into Ruger metal before I thought about plastic guns.

And if an auto is "too big", how about a J-frame?
haha I like the video, after the first shot she starts smiling and it keeps getting bigger every time she pulls the trigger!
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I vote for the Walther P22.

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J-Frame .22
Then again - I WAY prefer wheel guns.... Simple, reliable, easy manual of arms - What's not to like?
M36 in.22. J frames are ideal for smaller hands. Fill it with .22 shorts. Expensive yes. But any daughter is worth it. And you have a nice field gun too! I have one that's an air weight! 4" barrel, and I think I have seen one with a 3".. As a first step pistol-I prefer a revolver.
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I am a female with small hands. I prefer revolvers, but own a couple semi autos. Here is what I own:
Colt .22 Aka Colt Cadet
Colt Huntsman
Browning Camper, with the older style grips
I plan to purchase a Browning 1911-22. Not sure if I will buy the compact or regular version.
Good luck with your search.
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