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Old 10-05-2009, 07:10 PM
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This is also posted in the ammo section but wanted to get some opinions from folks that know primers.

Has anyone read or experianced problems with Hornady CD Ammo??

I was testing some Hornady Critical Defense 9mm 115gr FTX

Out of box of 25 I had at least 5 that did not go off. I was using my Kahr PM9 which eats and fires anything. I also shot 2 magazines of Remington Golden Sabers, Speer Gold Dots and my own handloads with Wolf primers, with zero malfunctions.

I called Hornady and they are sending a UPS call take to pick up.

These look like they are struck hard enough to me??

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Old 10-05-2009, 07:23 PM
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It appears to me that they should have gone BANG!
It'll be interesting to see IF you get follow-up from Hornady - I should think you should - they're big but not like WW or Rem.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:24 PM
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It could be because it is off center. It also looks as though the firing pin might be a tad sharp and tried to pierce the primer instead of smashing it. I've always bee told that that a primer may fail to go off if struck off center, simply because the high part of the anvil is in the center, and if the anvil in the primer isn't struck, the mix won't go off.

The strikes on these cartridges completely miss the center.
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It could be because it is off center. It also looks as though the firing pin might be a tad sharp and tried to pierce the primer instead of smashing it. I've always bee told that that a primer may fail to go off if struck off center, simply because the high part of the anvil is in the center, and if the anvil in the primer isn't struck, the mix won't go off.

The strikes on these cartridges completely miss the center.
I agree.Many guns fail to hit the center "perfectly" and still do just fine.It appears as though the pin may be hitting a little too far off.The high part of the anvil is in the center.If the firing pin is sharp,that's something else that needs to be addressed.Has this same gun done well with other ammo?
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Talk to Hornady, they should have fired.
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This is also posted in the ammo section but wanted to get some opinions from folks that know primers.

Has anyone read or experianced problems with Hornady CD Ammo??

I was testing some Hornady Critical Defense 9mm 115gr FTX

Out of box of 25 I had at least 5 that did not go off. I was using my Kahr PM9 which eats and fires anything. I also shot 2 magazines of Remington Golden Sabers, Speer Gold Dots and my own handloads with Wolf primers, with zero malfunctions.

I called Hornady and they are sending a UPS call take to pick up.

These look like they are struck hard enough to me??


First box I tried in my "trusty" S & W airweight Model 37 (nickel... it's a beauty!). Had a no-fire on the second round... primer was dented pretty good. I think we should ALL contact Hornaday and let them know we won't be buying their ammo any more and why. If this had been a gun fight... I might be dead!!!
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I have had the same problem in one revolver I have. It is a Beretta Laramie in 38spl.

Mine rolls too far to the right (from the rear) and Magtech primers will not ignite. Wolf will. What I did was put the headstamp up, so when the round was in "battery" so to speak, I could tell which way I was out of alignment.

It was a fault with the firearm, not the ammunition. Run them through another firearm and see what they do.
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As I mentioned I have never had a failure to fire with this gun. Thus was my first box of Hornady CD 9mm and had this. Leads me to believe it's the ammo not the gun. All the ones that fired have the indent in the same place

I keep a log book on every new gun I buy for SD and record all ammo, number of rounds and any failures. I usually am looking for gun failures such as fail to feed, fail to eject and other jamming. I just pulled out my records. Without listing every date (start 9/2007), I have around 600-700 rds through this gun with PMC, WWB, Fiochi, Magtec, Corbon,Blazer Brass, Rem, Speer Win Ranger, Fed Hydo, Fed HSt and handloads. NEVER a failed primer.
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Man, it looks like the whole face of the primer is collapsed into that firing pin strike.


I think they should've gone off. It might be a just a bad combination, but is'nt that why we test for reliability? Maybe you'll get some free ammo anyway.
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Definately looks like they should have gone bang. I will remember to avoid Hornady loaded ammo. It doesn't look like your firing pin is unnecessarily pointed to me, maybe narrower than most. I'd bet it was a
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