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01-16-2010, 02:24 AM
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Best measure for bullseye powder?
Any of you guys use a measure for bullseye in the 2.7 grain range? I've been using a beam scale and trickler....takes WAY too long! Its alright for my match stuff but....looong
Anyways, ive noticed its very "sticky" and sticks to the walls of the trickler and everything. So I was wondering if theres a measure out there that can handle the powder in such small amounts accurately?
Almost tempted to get a chargemaster pro, but thats too much $$$!
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01-16-2010, 04:05 AM
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I use the regular old fashioned RCBS powder throw. It meters Bullseye just fine at the 2.7 grain mark. Whenever I am running off some wadcutter ammo I check every 5th to 10th charge for consistency and it is always within a half a line on the beam scale mark.
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Anyways, ive noticed its very "sticky" and sticks to the walls of the trickler and everything. So I was wondering if theres a measure out there that can handle the powder in such small amounts accurately?
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The "stickiness" is static electricity. You can use one of the anti static cling dryer sheets from the laundry and wipe down the powder reservoir to reduce or eliminate static charge.
Most of the rotating drum type measures will do a good job measuring small charges of powder BUT it needs to be fitted with the correct somtimes optional small charge (pistol) tube or rotor designed for less than 10 grain throws rather than the typical "universal" 10 to 100 grain tubes that most come with.
You can buy the RCBS Uniflow with just the pistol or rifle setup or with both metering units.
RCBS also makes the "Little Dandy" pistol measure that many swear by that uses rotors with a fixed volume and you need to buy additional rotors for different charges. If you primarily load only a few cartridges using just a couple loads the Little Dandy would be fine but at about $12 per rotor it gets expensive if you want a variety of choices.
I use a Hornady powder measure and with the pistol insert it will give very accurate and consistent small throws. While I haven't used Bullseye powder specifically, I have used Red Dot, Clays, AA#2 all of wich use similar charge levels in target .38 spl HBWC loads.
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01-16-2010, 08:33 AM
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I have a RCBS Uniflow and a cheap Lee Perfect Powder Measure. Both work fine with small capacities of Bullseye.
I started reloading 40 years ago with a "Lee Loader", and it came with a two-sided dipper calibrated for loading Bullseye. One side had a 2.7 grain charge; the other had a 3.0 grain charge. (I later crafted a dipper out of a spent .32 caliber case to measure 3.2 grains.) I used those dippers for my .38 Special wadcutter loads for several years until I got my RCBS Uniflow.
Dippers are slow, but not as slow as measuring each load with a scale/trickler. Lee sells a set of 15 dippers for about $13.
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I also use an RCBS Uniflow with the micrometer adjustment screw. I also use the small powder drum and the powder baffle.
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01-16-2010, 11:10 AM
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I have a RCBS Uniflow too, but don't use it for Bullseye. I use an old Lyman/Ideal No. 55 for that. I also use it for squib loads in my .22 Hornet using charges of less than 1 grain.
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01-16-2010, 11:14 AM
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I use a Little Dandy with the adjustable rotor and it gives me exactly what I'm after. It's a bunch faster than using the trickler and a scoop.....
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01-16-2010, 11:40 AM
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Bullseye powder
I also use an RCBS Uniflow with the micrometer adjustment screw. I also use the small powder drum and the powder baffle.
This works great for me.I bought mine as a second measure for a hundred on sale .
I thought it was cheap for the accuracy and maybe safety.
I use it for 32acp and 25acp and have never had a problem yet.
I believe I am throwing 1.6 grains of Bullseyes for 25acp !!
It works and yes I check every 5 charges .
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01-16-2010, 11:42 AM
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I use an old Lyman/Ideal No. 55 for that. I also use it for squib loads in my .22 Hornet using charges of less than 1 grain.
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01-16-2010, 02:43 PM
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Glennp, I just make my own using a plastic fine line marker cap.. It needs to be all plastic & NOT have a double inner area..
Those plastic caps are tapered into the small end & larger at the scooping end (works wonderfully)..
First I heat the plastic clip or leg with a small heat gun then bend outwards at a 90° angle,, then cut close to size (keep trying the measurement) then lightly sand the top rim to make smooth & straight across..
I have many different ones made from 2.2 gr to about 3.5 gr & the those caps come in different colors so that helps tell them apart..
I have also seen the small measuring scoops made from cut down 25 or 32 cal cases with a wire twisted around the base for a handle..
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01-17-2010, 01:10 PM
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I have been using a Redding with a pistol micrometer charge bar to throw my BE charges of 2.7 and it's been right on through hundreds of charges thrown.
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01-17-2010, 01:29 PM
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RCBS little Dandy
I use an RCBS Little Dandy for BULLSEYE powder and find it to be very accurate with minimal variation between charges. Since the Little Dandy uses rotors with fixed cavities, I see no reason to check "every five charges", as others have advocated. On the other hand, other powders may not meter as consistently as BULLSEYE. For example, I also use UNIQUE for .38 special loads and find great variation between charges; however, not enough to be dangerous, but enough that it would effect accuracy when using light target loads.
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This is a bit OT, but ...
I have been loading DEWCs in .38 spl with 2.8 gr. of Bullseye for several years with my Dillon 550. I used to check every 10 rounds or so. I found that the Dillon loaded with such boring consistency that I now just make random checks, and I am pleased to continue with my boredom.
I am similarly bored with my loads of 4.7 grains of Unique for 158 gr. SWC.
Now, back to the topic for handloaders . . . .
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I have been using an old Pacific Pistol Powder Measure for over 40 years and it is a great tool. It is still available as the Hornady Pistol Powder Measure. I highly recommend it.
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I have a Redding 10X Pistol and Small Rifle Measure, it’s designed for 1-16 grain charges, 25 gr max. Its capacity of course depends on the powder density. Micrometer adjustment is very consistent, all in all I am very happy with it.
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Lee pro auto-disk with the powder thru expander die.
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