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Old 03-21-2010, 01:55 PM
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I'm getting into reloading for pistol only. I would like use only one power for 9mm and 38 spl. I'm looking for plinking/practice rounds. I'm thinking that Hodgdon Titegroup might fit the bill. Who uses it and how do you like it? Later I might want to work up some true target loads for my model 14 and some .357 too. Tanks.
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:26 PM
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My buddy really likes it in .45 loads, I tried it but found I needed higher charge weights to match what I made with Universal Clays. I figured it was going to be cheaper in the long run to stay with Universal.
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:55 PM
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I purchased an 8-lb. container of Titegroup with the aim of minimizing the number of powders needed. For me, it works well for target/plinking loads in several calibers (38 spl, 357 mag, 44 spl, 44 mag, 45 AR & ACP). Seems to burn cleaner than some other popular powders.
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I've used TG recently for the 45acp,9mm,45 colt & 45 Schofield. It covers a lot of bases & Hodgdon has plenty of data available for many applications. You just have to measure those small charges of powder carefully.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:26 PM
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I tried it in 45, it was not a good experience. Accuracy was not good, very inconsistant with large groups. Although it was clean burning.
I gave up and use it only for 12 gauge loads now.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:41 PM
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Not big fan of Titegroup. I've got about 14-18 different powders on my shelf right now. The one pound of Titegroup is not going to be replaced when it is gone. 3-5gr, which is what goes into many target type loads, just doesn't fill the case much. I always heard that the more accurate loads filled the case as much as possible. No to mention the possibility of missing a double charge.
To be honest, HP-38/W231 would be a better choice in my opinion and can be used to make some pretty stout loads.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:44 PM
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Might look at Universal or Unique to see if one of those will fit your needs.

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I use Titegroup by preference to all others in my 38/357 loads. It is both accurate and clean burning in my loads. I also use it in 9mm loads in the mid and upper recipe levels.

My buddy was on the state champ LEO team for 4 years and that's what they settled on for their competition powder.

I used it for years in CAS matches too in 45LC with good results. It is not a high volume powder by design, and is position insensitive from what I've read.

I like it a lot, although for the cowboy loads I've come to prefer Trail Boss.

Ask 100 reloaders about any powder, and you'll find 150 opinions. This response was my own 2.

Never a performance issue, although I think it smells funny compared to other powder.
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I use both Titegroup and HP38/WIN 231 (same powder).
If you intend to shoot any lead bullets in the .38, I'd recommend the HP38.
HP38 will make up to midrange loads in .357, but you'll need something like 296 to get full magnum power.
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My buddy really likes it in .45 loads, I tried it but found I needed higher charge weights to match what I made with Universal Clays. I figured it was going to be cheaper in the long run to stay with Universal.
I found that hard to understand. TG is much faster than Universal & charge wts are less in all calibers. Me, I won't use it & do NOT recommend it for newb reloaders. It has a narrow load range, small volumn powder charge & steep pressure curve. It works fine for light target loads, but then there are 5-6 other powders that do the same thing w/ higher volumn to charge wt (WST, RedDot, etc). TG burns really hot too, some report leading issues w/ lead bullets. For 9mm & 38sp, W231 or WST would be my choice.
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I am not going to say Titegroup is more dangerous to use than any other powder , but it seems in my AO every blown up gun was being shot by someone with a reputation for always trying to get too much out of a round , who was using Titegroup this time . It is like asking "do primered Camaros cause drivers to speed or do drivers that tend to have heavy right feet often drive primered Camaros .
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:31 AM
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Titegroup has become my powder of choice for target loads in all of my pistol ammo. I think it works really well with cast bullets in .38 Special.
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Fredj338, Sorry about that, I meant regular Clays. I do use the Universal a lot though, especially in higher pressure rounds like 9 & 40.
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I first tried Titegroup because that's what they had at the store. I've since become a fan.

38 Special:
For 125 gr plated hollow point bullets I use 4 grains
For 158 gr plated hollow point bullets I use 3.5 grains

.357
For 125 gr plated hollow point bullets I use 7 grains
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I use Titegroup in every hand gun caliber I own for anything approaching 1000 fps. It is cheap and versatile. If you want load data PM me.
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I use it and like it. I load 40s&w 10mm and I use it for 223 rem to shoot small rodents. Hodgdon had a 223 1100fps load in the book and it works. I don't like to use the old powders. The new stuff like titegroup does not change much with temp. Its like drugs. I don't take dristan for sinus's. The new stuff has to be better. I don't driver a 58 plymouth. The new stuff has to be better. I like the new stuff. I just bought a can of Hodgdon Longshot for 10mm 180 xtp loads. I tried 2400 and could only get 1060 out of my 4" 610. The book said I should get over 1200. It didn't happen in the short barrel. I decided to try a little faster burn rate and found Longshot. It gives me almost 1300 fps from the 4" barrel loaded by the book. I am happy with Hodgdon.
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I use Titegroup by choice as well and have loaded over 10,000 rounds of 9mm and .40 S&W with it. Burns clean and consistent even though it does not fill the case. Also, I have to shoot a qualifying round twice a year at night, and Titegroup has significantly less muzzle flash than factory ammo does.
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I use Titegroup, 5.0 gr in .45ACP/AR with a 200gr LSWC. In my 5" 625 it shoots clean and accurate. I still tend to use Bullseye in my 38 spcl target loads; but that is just because I have used it forever with 158gr LSWCs and know my guns shoot well with it. Titegroup is not supposed to be position sensitive; it does not fill the case but neither does Bullseye. If you are not a careful reloader then stay with the bulkier powders. "Let the buyer beware" (caveat emptor) is what the Romans stamped on marble blocks sold from their quarries. Maybe we should all put "let the reloader beware" with all reloading data found on the internet and in forums. It does not mean that the data is bad, it just means that you are the ultimate source of safety in your reloading endeavors.
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Titegroup like any other powder has it's plusses and minuses.
On the plus side it produces very uniform velocities, meters well, and is applicablesto a wide variety of calibers.
On the minus side it burns very hot and leaves a ring of black residue on the case mouth.
I have used Titegroup in 9mm 147 gr. FMJ loads and 38 Special 130 gr. FMJ loads. More recently I switched to American Select for the 38 Special. A fellow shooter uses American Select in everything from 32 H&R Mag through 45 Colt in pistol and 12ga shotgun - that's real versatility. I tend to use WSF in 9mm, American Select or WST in the other calibers except for lead or plated bullets where I use Trail Boss.
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A consistent fact is be careful of double charges. And it does burn very hot. I use it quite a bit in .357 lead rounds, found 231 was leaving my hands as dirty as my guns. I believe the amount of nitro used in this powder is greater than many others creating the excess heat and the high amounts of power at low charge weights. You will have to use a slower burning powder to get full power from .357 loadings. Power Pistol is another one of my favorites for .40 and 10mm, burns very clean and gives good results in general. Blue Dot is considered one of the best powders by a lot of 10mm fans.

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I use Tite Group for 45 hardball loads, Clays fir 45 Wadcutter loads, 231 for 38 spec, ande VV330 for 9 mm. Works for me in my guns.
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IMO, Titegroup is a great-performing powder. However, after one can I stopped using it for the same reason I don't use Bullseye or Red Dot -- I don't like low bulk powders because it's hard to tell if you've thown a double charge. The fastest pistol powder I use is W231.

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One of the best features about reloading is increasing your capability of tailoring loads specific to your gun.
A pound of powder costs about 20 to 23 dollars so the cost per round is pretty minimal compared to the price of bullets and primers.
Try the titegroup and if it doesn't work out, try out one of the other suggestions.
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I use it in my 9mm loads. I have no faults at all with it.
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Titegroup is a good powder to use for plinking and some medium loads. It is the powder that I use second. My first choice for plinking is Trail Boss. Fills the case, is clean, accurate and goes a long way. Trail Boss is the best powder for plinking in almost any caliber.
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Dirtiest powder I have ever used in a handgun load. After reading some review I bought an 8-lb to use in .45 ACP target loads with 200 grain cast bullets. Loads were accurate, but no more so than my usual 700-x loads, and the fouling was more pronounced.

Tried it in .45 Colt and .45 S&W with cast bullets at target velocities. More accurate than most other loads, but more soot all over the cylinder as well. Made shooting more than a few rounds unpleasant.

The last straw was .38 Special. Lousy accuracy, and horrible fouling at all levels with cast bullets from the top loads down to the lowest recommended. Firing 50 rounds resulted in the amount of fouling that most other powders produce after 500 rounds. Just a single box of 50 and my hands were blackened with a sooty residue that was difficult to wash off.

I won't be buying anymore, ever.
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