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Case Lube - non-carbide rifle dies.
I just started reloading .45/70s. All my pistol dies are carbide, cause I don't want to be bothered with case lube. Didn't have a choice on the rifle dies.
Last time I had to use lube for reloading was 20+ years ago, so I figured I'd try the spray lubes. Got a bottle of Cabela's lanolin and alcohol lube. Directions aren't particularly informative. Shake, spray, agitate, spray and reload. Not!!, thankfully I had an old case lube pad from 20 years ago with lube still on it.
So did I screw up by not soaking the brass in the spray lube, or is there something better than the Cabela's version.
In other words, for anyone who uses the lanolin/alcohol mix, how much of the stuff do you apply to the cases?
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For Rifle, I use Imperial Case Sizing Wax (Redding puts it out). Sinclair carries it and so does Midway. A tin the size of a shoe polish tin cost just under $6.00 and will last you the rest of your life. It goes on real easy and comes off easy. A little goes a long way and it is not messy. Its great stuff, and is about the only thing the benchrest crowd will use.
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06-14-2010, 05:50 PM
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I like the Hornady one-shot areosol lube myself. Works great on cases and you don't have to clean it off and jack with it after you apply it.
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06-14-2010, 06:15 PM
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I like the Hornady one-shot areosol lube myself. Works great on cases and you don't have to clean it off and jack with it after you apply it.
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This is what I use also.
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06-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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I like Unique case lube. I have tried the Hornady spray lube, but it didn't work well for me. Didn't seem to lube well, and it didn't last long on the cases after being sprayed.
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06-14-2010, 07:10 PM
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For rifle resizing Imperial Sizing Die Wax is the best I have used. It is not sticky, and you can wipe it off with a paper towel or a rag.
It is now marketed by Redding. It is Redding green in color now, but it is the same stuff.
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06-14-2010, 07:14 PM
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Another vote for Imperial!
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06-14-2010, 07:50 PM
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I like Unique case lube. I have tried the Hornady spray lube, but it didn't work well for me. Didn't seem to lube well, and it didn't last long on the cases after being sprayed.
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How much did you put on it? I went with a pretty liberal coating of it on all my cases and haven't had any problems yet. It won't work for severe reforming operations (like converting .30-06 brass into 8mm Gibbs cases) but for regular reloading duty it seemed to do just fine.
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06-14-2010, 08:04 PM
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I didn't care for the Hornady One Shot either and went back to the old lube pad. I am very picky about my rifle ammo and don't mind the extra attention I have to give them.
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06-14-2010, 08:58 PM
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I've used a number of spray on lubes and they work great for the smaller cartridges like 30-30, 30-06, etc. They don't work on my 45-70 cases. I have to use the lube pad to keep the 45-70 cases from sticking. Don't use too much or you'll get dents in the cases.
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Guys,
Thanks for all the quick responses. i'll be checking them out more tommorow. I've got to go on Thursday to the range and won't be reloading till after that. I had enough old lube to work for the rounds I was building.
I was working up some rounds to check whats best in my gun, and won't do bulk till after shooting those I've made up.
Probably have a couple of questions tomorrow for sure.
Thanks again.
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How much did you put on it? I went with a pretty liberal coating of it on all my cases and haven't had any problems yet. It won't work for severe reforming operations (like converting .30-06 brass into 8mm Gibbs cases) but for regular reloading duty it seemed to do just fine.
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What I do is put the cases in a small plastic bag, spray a few seconds worth of the lube into the bag, and role them around. Then I stand them up in a pan and try to size. The first three or four work ok, but subsequent cases get harder and harder as if the lube is drying up. How do you do it?
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What I do is put the cases in a small plastic bag, spray a few seconds worth of the lube into the bag, and role them around. Then I stand them up in a pan and try to size. The first three or four work ok, but subsequent cases get harder and harder as if the lube is drying up. How do you do it?
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Your method sounds cleaner, but I set all mine in a loading block and try to spray them from both sides and give them a few seconds to dry up before I start them into the dies. Sinclair sells a dedicated spray lube loading block that lets you work from both sides. I'm too cheap and just spray them from both sides. Heck I even use it as neck lube. Again I just let it dry some before I start running them into the sizer.
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I use the Midway Minute Lube most of the time. .223 up to .45-70. I roll them on the RCBS lube pad to evenly coat them. Few problems. If a case feels sticky, I switch to Rig Lube +P stainless steel grease. That stuff is GREAT!!!
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+1 for Imperial. You'll probably only need one can for a life time. You are less likely to cause lube dents as with the other thick lubes.
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Another vote for Imperial. The only time I ever stuck a case in a die was with Hornady one shot in a Hornady new dimension die.
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Ok, seems like we're getting a pretty consistant recomendation for Imperial. Also the product reports I've read all go along with what's been said here.
Is it strickly manually applied, or does it also work on a lube pad?
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I have used Imperial wax for rifle and pistol resizing for at least 20 years now. It makes sizing very smooth and easy without dents. I use for case forming old 30-06 military cases to 8x57mm mauser. I apply it manually with my fingers and take it off with an old used bath towel. Works great. James
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Ok, seems like we're getting a pretty consistant recomendation for Imperial. Also the product reports I've read all go along with what's been said here.
Is it strickly manually applied, or does it also work on a lube pad?
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I believe the manufacturer states to apply with finger. Have no idea if it would work on a lube pad.
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Can ordered from Midway.
Thanks all.
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I like the Imperial for rifle cartridges the best but have used spray lube too. The trick with spray lube is to make sure its well mixed by shaking the bottle, squirt the cases, on both sides and then let the alcohol evaporate off leaving the lube on the case.
FWIW I use a shoe box lid and put a folded up piece of newspaper in it that fits the lid. Lay the cases in a row and spray one side then roll the row of case a little to catch the other side. Let sit for 5 minutes to evaporate the alcohol and then get to sizing.
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I'll give the spray a small second chance and soak them since I'm not going there again. First case sticking, the experiment's over, and I'm only doing this till the wax comes in.
Oh, FYI, With the 23 year old lube pad and lube that was put on back then from an RCBS kit , the 20 rounds I loaded worked just fine.
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Imperial Sizing Die Wax.
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